Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt!

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt! : So it was the Newt's budget then but it's Obama's budget busting now. Way to stay consistent. Of course you do realize he RAISED taxes to pay for those earmarks...just sayin.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    Of course it is Obama's budget.  The senate hasn't produced a budget fro three years, the House submitted a budget that Obama rejected.  Obama has made the call on the "budget", he owns it.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt! : Annoyed? Not at all. In fact I was pleased that she confirmed how childish you are. If anyone should be annoyed, it's you.
    Posted by WhatDoYouWantNow[/QUOTE]


    you sound .... annoyed....
     
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    [QUOTE]I think the real reason the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt is that if he gets the nomination..then Obama gets 4 more years. The establishment has a duty to put forth a candidate that can win a general election. Newt is not that person.
    Posted by miscricket[/QUOTE]

    That's the point on the surface, and I agree that Newt is a much riskier candidate.

    However, let's review the candidates the republican establishment have claimed are the "right" ones:

    Bob Dole
    George Bush
    John McCain
    Mitt Romney

    What do they have in common?  All were designed to be acceptable to the famous "moderates".  All but one failed, and that one, Bush, in a highly contested election.

    The republican establishment is chasing a unicorn, the sorta liberal, sorta conservative candidate that appeals to those who given the choice, will vote Democrat.

    The ideas of conservatism are powerful and good for the country. The republicans won't stand and fight for these ideas, they try to slide by on the premise that their versions of liberal ideas are better.

    This is why the republicans loose, and will likely do so again.

     
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    President is the leader of the country, period.

    He owns all the good and the bad, duh.

    You're up early, do you have test today?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt! : Awww look at little zippy, running off at the mouth and saying stupid things. I guess third grade is really hard on idiots like you. Umm newsflash moron, we have this thing in the US Constitution referred to as the three branches of gov't. Thanks for proving my point, that you are a coward and look to run from responsibility whenever you can. But ya didn't need to prove you're an idiot also.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    President owns it, you know it, now get lost before I get the newspaper and swat you like a bug.

    You try way too hard, and no one, I mean no one takes you seriously.  All of your rants won't change a single vote, you really need to find another hobby.

    Some of us have jobs, families, personal responsibilities, etc.

    You have none of this, you have these boards, quite sad......... 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt! : Obama would not be able to rely on platitudes and "feel good" generalizations in debates if, Newt is the nominee. Newt would make a stark contrast on ideology, leadership, and he would be articulate and smart enough to expose Obama and his lack of any indepth idea's or knowledge.
    Posted by sk8ter2008[/QUOTE]


    Contrast they would.  Which partly explains why some dems will want to see it.
     
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    [QUOTE] There is always a reason politicians oppose something.......that reason is usually because either there is nothing in it for them or it will hurt their struggle to retain or get more power!!!
    Posted by sk8ter2008[/QUOTE]

    Hence the nature of Newt's own opposition...

    ...as well as the gop's own opposition to nominating him.


    So, the question is: which side of the gop power struggle are you on?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt! : Hey numbnuts, Congress holds the purse strings so they own the budget. Too freakin funny, when the prez tries to get something passed and the wingnuts obstruct it then it's the prez's fault. When the prez stands in the way of something the wingnuts passed then it's his fault again. Geepers, you freakin wingnuts just can't take responsibility for anything. What a bunch of cowards!
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]


    We've been over this ground before.  The senate voted down the house budget.  Obama submitted a budget, which even his controlled senate voted down, something like 97-0.  The senate has never submitted a budget, or an amended budget to either, over 1,000 days and counting.


    Obama owns this.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt! : Apparently you are unaware of how the budget process works, or should work. The prez submits his request. Congress votes on it. If they don't pass it then they have two options. Either sit down with the prez and work out a compromise or submit their own budget. They didn't even attempt the first and the second didn't pass. The Constitution states that all revenue bills must originate in the HoR. So ya see spanky, the ball is in the wingnuts court and they haven't done a gosh darn thing about it. I suggest you read up on the Constitution, the real one, not the annotated one you wingnuts are fond of using.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    Aparently you are stupid.

    The President, according to the Budget and Accounting Act of 1921, must submit a budget to Congress each year. In its current form, federal budget legislation law (31 U.S.C. 1105(a)) specifies that the President submit a budget between the first Monday in January and the first Monday in February.  Obama has met the minimum requirement.

    next:

    In 2010, the then Democratic-controlled House and Senate did not adopt a budget resolution or adopt a single spending bill "because the Democrats were afraid of being labeled big spenders," Ellis said.

    Translation:  The democrat controlled House and Senate did not take up the budget, vote, or do anything useful.  OBama was on board with this approach.

    next:

    Under the Republican controlled House, they have put forth 3 to 4 serious budgets, only to be ignored by both the Senate and Obama.

    Conclusion?  Obama is meeting the strict letter of the law, but is failing to act in good faith.

    Obama owns this.



     
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    Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt!

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Why the GOP establishment is afraid of Newt!  In fact they spent most of their time obstructing a compromise. Maybe you should try counting the record number of filibusters by the wingnuts? Be forewarned, it's much more than your fingers and toes...much, much more. So just slink away, I'm tired of arguing with a delusional ideologue.
    Posted by airborne-rgr[/QUOTE]

    Yeah..it's a little hypocritical to criticize the President for doing nothing..when you throw up roadblocks to everything he wants..even the stuff you agreed with pre-Obama. I think the general voting population has started to see that the GOP has not been putting people over partisan politics..in spite of their claims to the contrary. This is why there is such a lame GOP field..and voter turnout is down from 2008.
     

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