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Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

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    Betting on an incubent is quite daring. I've seen 2 lose in half a century. You? Thats 9 to one odds by the way.  Good bet, but doesn't pay much 




    Then why are the whacko wingnuts going out of their way to discredit not only Nate Silver, but every poll that doesn't agree with their opinion?

     

    And that includes wingnuts alternately praising/criticizing some same polls that, depending on the day, either are pro- or anti-Mittens.

    There are literrally dozens of wingnut pundits who are not only predicting a Mittens victory but some predict a lopsided blowout.

    These are the wingnuts who should be taking Silver up on his bet.

    But they won't because it's either all bullshiit posturing for the nose-to-Buttocks crowd to not lose faith or they really don't have the confidence they say they do.

    Either way they are disingenuous at best, craven hypocrits at worst.

     

    But what's really ignorant on the part of the wingnuts is that they don't challenge the data directly but just employ the 'Oh he's partisan' bullcrap of lazy thinking ....or some swim deeper into the cesspool of personal attacks and say he's wrong because he's a weak, little girly-man.

    That's the kind of crap coming from the wingnuts that is pathetic.




    Yea, the left never does that sht.

    The Boston Globe had Martha Coakley up by 19 on the weekend before the special election.

    Nothing to see there, of course.

     

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    Yea, the left never does that sht. The Boston Globe had Martha Coakley up by 19 on the weekend before the special election. Nothing to see there, of course.




    Hey spanky, take a gander at this factoid...

     

    FiveThirtyEight writers Schaller, Gelman, and Silver also gave extensive coverage to the January 19, 2010 Massachusetts special election to the U.S. Senate. The "538 model" once again aggregated the disparate polls to correctly predict that the Republican Scott Brown would win.

     

    I guess you should stick with the "But...but...but...they do it too..." generalizations.

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    LOL!  Joe Scarborough a "wingnut"?   He`s a bigger Lib than you!  Talk about a freakin RINO working on a fantasy show on a fantasy cable network, with no audience!

    BWAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

    Let`s see......hmmmmm......Nate Silver vs Rasmussen, Gallup, Suffolk, Zogby, Reuters, Dick Morris, Karl Rove, University of Colorado (probably the most acurrate of any on earth).......and you`re choosing a Vegas baseball handicapper that got lucky once on an election that was a lock?

    BWAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!



    Your full ignorance is on display here jmel. 

    Nate Silver is a poll aggregator, not a pollster.  He doesn't compete with Rasmussen, Gallup, Suffolk, Zogby, Reuters, Dick Morris, Karl Rove, or the University of Colorado.  He takes their polling information and makes predictions based on it.

     PS....Obama is at 79% chance of winning today. ~300 electoral votes.




    I'm waiting for Greg to own up to missing on the Senate = DEMS will hold majority

 
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

    1) Nate Silver got his reputation in the 2008 election, picking 49 of 50 states in the Presidental election; he didnt get lucky; fact was, Silver never revealed that the Obama campaign had given him exclusive access to its internal polls. This was unethical.

    2) He has been far from perfect; in 2010, Nate Silver, using his trademark 'percentages", claimed there was but a "30% chance"  the GOP would win more than 60 House seats; they took 64...

    Silver's bloated percentages of an Obama win in the Obama-poodle rag NY Times have been the liberal's binky this year...

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

    "I'm waiting for Greg to own up to missing on the Senate = DEMS will hold majority"

    Why dont you wait until the actual election is over?

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    1) Nate Silver got his reputation in the 2008 election, picking 49 of 50 states in the Presidental election; he didnt get lucky; fact was, Silver never revealed that the Obama campaign had given him exclusive access to its internal polls. This was unethical. 2) He has been far from perfect; in 2010, Nate Silver, using his trademark 'percentages", claimed there was but a "30% chance"  the GOP would win more than 60 House seats; they took 64... Silver's bloated percentages of an Obama win in the Obama-poodle rag NY Times have been the liberal's binky this year...




    Soooo, wouldn't internal polling tend to be less accurate and more partisan? I don't see how that would help with his predictions.

     

    And how is that unethical? Are you saying internal polling is somehow more accurate? That would mean that Obama will win because that's what his internal polls show.

    Geepers, that's so illogical as to be comical.

    Actually, Silver posited that because "there was much less available public polling for individual House districts than there is for Senate or gubernatorial races." his prediction was "95 percent confidence interval runs from a 23-seat Republican gain to an 81-seat one." So your just making up crap.

    "Our forecasting model, which is based on a consensus of indicators including generic ballot polling, polling of local districts, expert forecasts, and fund-raising data, now predicts an average Republican net gain of 54 seats, and a median net Republican gain of 55 seats."

    In final vote tallys as of December 10, 2010, the Republicans had a net gain of 63 seats in the House, 8 more than the total predicted on election eve though still within the reported confidence interval.

     

    Funny how Silver is willing to put his own money on those predictions...and no wingnuts are willing to take him up on the offer. Telling...very telling.

     

    Seems the 'binky' for the wingnuts is to just cry "neener, neener, neener" from behind their skirts.

     

    So tell us booboo, do you think Mittens will win?

    Who's polls do you think is closest to the final outcome?

     
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    "Soooo, wouldn't internal polling tend to be less accurate and more partisan? I don't see how that would help with his predictions"

    Then you are clueless.

    "...his prediction was "95 percent confidence interval runs from a 23-seat Republican gain to an 81-seat one."

    LOL!!! Quite a brave prediction, the day before the 2010 election...

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    "Soooo, wouldn't internal polling tend to be less accurate and more partisan? I don't see how that would help with his predictions" Then you are clueless. "...his prediction was "95 percent confidence interval runs from a 23-seat Republican gain to an 81-seat one." LOL!!! Quite a brave prediction, the day before the 2010 election...



    So explain, how the freak is/are internal campaign polls more accurate?

    And why are you projecting your ignorance without an answer?

    My bet is you just don't have an answer.

    Internal polling being more accurate than the private sector? Oh say it ain't so Booboo...

     

    Hey numbnuts, he said that was the range.

    His prediction was 55 seats, off by 8 (1.8%), out of 435 races.  

    Only ideological ignoramuses choose to ignore reality only because they can't handle the truth.

     

     

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    LOL!  Joe Scarborough a "wingnut"?   He`s a bigger Lib than you!  Talk about a freakin RINO working on a fantasy show on a fantasy cable network, with no audience!

    BWAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

    Let`s see......hmmmmm......Nate Silver vs Rasmussen, Gallup, Suffolk, Zogby, Reuters, Dick Morris, Karl Rove, University of Colorado (probably the most acurrate of any on earth).......and you`re choosing a Vegas baseball handicapper that got lucky once on an election that was a lock?

    BWAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!



    Your full ignorance is on display here jmel. 

    Nate Silver is a poll aggregator, not a pollster.  He doesn't compete with Rasmussen, Gallup, Suffolk, Zogby, Reuters, Dick Morris, Karl Rove, or the University of Colorado.  He takes their polling information and makes predictions based on it.

     PS....Obama is at 79% chance of winning today. ~300 electoral votes.




    I'm waiting for Greg to own up to missing on the Senate = DEMS will hold majority




    You have to wait until Wednesday.  Thats how it works here on Earth

     

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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    Yea, the left never does that sht. The Boston Globe had Martha Coakley up by 19 on the weekend before the special election. Nothing to see there, of course.

     




    Hey spanky, take a gander at this factoid...

     

    FiveThirtyEight writers Schaller, Gelman, and Silver also gave extensive coverage to the January 19, 2010 Massachusetts special election to the U.S. Senate. The "538 model" once again aggregated the disparate polls to correctly predict that the Republican Scott Brown would win.

     

    I guess you should stick with the "But...but...but...they do it too..." generalizations.



    attempting to aggregate polls is fools science.  you can't take a bunch of skewed polls and some how, magically, aggregate the sloppiness and bias out of them. 

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

    In response to 12-Angry-Men's comment:

    In response to GreginMeffa's comment:

    Yea, the left never does that sht. The Boston Globe had Martha Coakley up by 19 on the weekend before the special election. Nothing to see there, of course.

     




    Hey spanky, take a gander at this factoid...

     

    FiveThirtyEight writers Schaller, Gelman, and Silver also gave extensive coverage to the January 19, 2010 Massachusetts special election to the U.S. Senate. The "538 model" once again aggregated the disparate polls to correctly predict that the Republican Scott Brown would win.

     

    I guess you should stick with the "But...but...but...they do it too..." generalizations.




    538 v the Boston Globe.

     

    You're fun

     
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    Re: Wingnuts keep saying Nate Silver is an incompetent ideologue. His response: Wanna bet?

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    538 v the Boston Globe. You're fun



    What the freak are you babbling about?

    You get pretty dumb when ya got nothin.

    In your infinite ignorance you are proving my point.

    In case you didn't hit your ESL class this week, the thread is about 538 and how accurate he is.

    Trying to conflate a media poll with someone who doesn't do any polling is pretty fvcking stupid, even by wingnut standards.

    It also proves that the data-driven model Silver uses is accurate, much to the chagrin of the conspiracy theorists.

     

     

     

     
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