Wisconsin defunds Planned Parenthood - no more tax dollars

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    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 



    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Asking for financial clarification for entities receiving taxpayer money where services, expenses, cost are not explained in detail; whether its bonuses to executives, resort team building execizes or specifics on each service provided is not only prudent for the govts and citizens to ask but a responsibility when they are receiving taxpayer funds!!

     


    And that information was provided, but you, skeeter, et al., just don't like the results.

     

    Way to pretend you care, though.

     

     

     
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    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     


    Au contraire.

    "This profit-driven business chose to up the ante this year, mandating that all of its affiliates must provide abortions beginning this month. This mandate has already prompted several clinics that do not wish to perform abortions to break off and go independent.

    Requiring that all of its affiliates provide abortions is the ultimate evidence that Planned Parenthoods chief concern is making money off abortion,  not the health of vulnerable women and girls.

    "Cancer screenings" ?  Planned Parenthood provided ZERO mammagrams ! The abortion provider’s purported “referral services” to outside mammogram facilities are negligible — especially given the widespread availability of free and low-cost breast and cervical cancer screening services across the country supported by both private and public grants.

     
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    The real War Against Women is "sex-selection' abortions...coming soon to America, as soon as abortion on demand thru the 9th month is adopted...paid for by taxpayers. 

    Now available  in other countries which the liberals consider 'progressive' ...

    India, China, Great Britain ..

    In England, newspapers found doctors offering pregnancy terminations based on gender...

    "Last night, Lord Alton said the presence of sex-selective abortion in the UK could be a product of terminations becoming too “routine”.

    “Abortion has become so routine in Britain with 600 taking place every day that people have accepted the mantra that it’s just a matter of choice but that’s not what the law says,” he said. “There is a fundamental debate to take place here.”

    He said the practice may have been imported from areas of the world where it is more common, including India and China “where sex-selective abortions have taken place on an industrial scale”.

     
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    The real War Against Women is "sex-selection' abortions...coming soon to America, as soon as abortion on demand thru the 9th month is adopted...paid for by taxpayers. 

    Now available  in other countries which the liberals consider 'progressive' ...

    India, China, Great Britain ..

    In England, newspapers found doctors offering pregnancy terminations based on gender...

    "Last night, Lord Alton said the presence of sex-selective abortion in the UK could be a product of terminations becoming too “routine”.

    “Abortion has become so routine in Britain with 600 taking place every day that people have accepted the mantra that it’s just a matter of choice but that’s not what the law says,” he said. “There is a fundamental debate to take place here.”

    He said the practice may have been imported from areas of the world where it is more common, including India and China “where sex-selective abortions have taken place on an industrial scale”.



    That's just sick to put one gender as more valuable than the other!!!

     
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    The real War Against Women is "sex-selection' abortions...coming soon to America, as soon as abortion on demand thru the 9th month is adopted...paid for by taxpayers. 

    Now available  in other countries which the liberals consider 'progressive' ...

    India, China, Great Britain ..

    In England, newspapers found doctors offering pregnancy terminations based on gender...

    "Last night, Lord Alton said the presence of sex-selective abortion in the UK could be a product of terminations becoming too “routine”.

    “Abortion has become so routine in Britain with 600 taking place every day that people have accepted the mantra that it’s just a matter of choice but that’s not what the law says,” he said. “There is a fundamental debate to take place here.”

    He said the practice may have been imported from areas of the world where it is more common, including India and China “where sex-selective abortions have taken place on an industrial scale”.



    Liberals consider India and China to be progressive?

     
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    Compassionate conservatism, right?



    If, you are so partisan that all you have is general grouped negatives that you think reflect 60,000,000 people then just go away please.

     
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    If, you are so partisan that all you have is general grouped negatives that you think reflect 60,000,000 people then just go away please.

     

     

     



    Blah blah blah, crap crap crap.

     

     

    Look in a mirror, fella



    lol what a tool!

     
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    Re: Wisconsin defunds Planned Parenthood - no more tax dollars

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    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 

     



     

    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     

     

     

     




    The 3% number doesn't tell you anything useful, on purpose.

     

    The FACT, by Planned Parenthood's own numbers, that 20% of the people who go there get an abortion.

     

    that's the number you just don't like.

     
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    Whether intentional or unintentional..the result of Wisconsin's war on Planned Parenthood will result in less access to women's health care for women in poorer and rural areas of Wisconsin...but what's a little collateral damage when you're fighting an imaginary enemy..right..?

     
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    Whether intentional or unintentional..the result of Wisconsin's war on Planned Parenthood will result in less access to women's health care for women in poorer and rural areas of Wisconsin...but what's a little collateral damage when you're fighting an imaginary enemy..right..?

     




    Less access".

     

    I guess women really are just frail vessels, and need the government to run their lives.

     

    What a load.

     
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    Re: Wisconsin defunds Planned Parenthood - no more tax dollars

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    Whether intentional or unintentional..the result of Wisconsin's war on Planned Parenthood will result in less access to women's health care for women in poorer and rural areas of Wisconsin...but what's a little collateral damage when you're fighting an imaginary enemy..right..?

     




    Less access".

     

    I guess women really are just frail vessels, and need the government to run their lives.

     

    What a load.



    So subsidized health care equates the government running your life?

    I thought the republicans were against legislation that put the government in the treatment room with the patient and the doctor.  But they seem perfectly happy looking over the doctor's shoulder when it comes to a woman's vag.

     
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    Whether intentional or unintentional..the result of Wisconsin's war on Planned Parenthood will result in less access to women's health care for women in poorer and rural areas of Wisconsin...but what's a little collateral damage when you're fighting an imaginary enemy..right..?

     




    Less access".

     

    I guess women really are just frail vessels, and need the government to run their lives.

     

    What a load.

     



    So subsidized health care equates the government running your life?

     

    I thought the republicans were against legislation that put the government in the treatment room with the patient and the doctor.  But they seem perfectly happy looking over the doctor's shoulder when it comes to a woman's vag.



    How else is he going to see a woman's vag?

     
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    Re: Wisconsin defunds Planned Parenthood - no more tax dollars

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

     

    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 

     



     

    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     



    The 3% number doesn't tell you anything useful.  It counts every service, whihc is well, just deception.Does it tell you that 3% of the people there get abortions? No.  It is a statistic for the low-information voter, you know, Obama supporters.

    What doen't you like about reporting that 20% of the people who visit Planned Parenthood get an abortion?  Other than it is a nmumber way bigger than 3%?

     

    Don't you think the number and percent of the people who get abortions is more useful than how much money is spent on it?

     

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to tvoter's comment:

     

    Asking for financial clarification for entities receiving taxpayer money where services, expenses, cost are not explained in detail; whether its bonuses to executives, resort team building execizes or specifics on each service provided is not only prudent for the govts and citizens to ask but a responsibility when they are receiving taxpayer funds!!

     

     


    And that information was provided, but you, skeeter, et al., just don't like the results.

     

    Way to pretend you care, though.

     

     




    The numbers are decieving.  there is no chineese wall. Example: The same room bought and paid for for examining STD's is used for abortions, hiding the cost

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

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    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 

     



     

    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     



    The 3% number doesn't tell you anything useful, on purpose.

     

    The FACT, by Planned Parenthood's own numbers, that 20% of the people who go there get an abortion.

     

    that's the number you just don't like.



    NO.  Again, you're just wrong, and again, you don't pay attention.

    PP's numbers state they serve over 3,000,000 people, so 330k abortions is only 11%.

    You're really bad at this....

     

     
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    Re: Wisconsin defunds Planned Parenthood - no more tax dollars

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    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     


    Au contraire.

     

    "This profit-driven business chose to up the ante this year, mandating that all of its affiliates must provide abortions beginning this month. This mandate has already prompted several clinics that do not wish to perform abortions to break off and go independent.

    Requiring that all of its affiliates provide abortions is the ultimate evidence that Planned Parenthoods chief concern is making money off abortion,  not the health of vulnerable women and girls.

    "Cancer screenings" ?  Planned Parenthood provided ZERO mammagrams ! The abortion provider’s purported “referral services” to outside mammogram facilities are negligible — especially given the widespread availability of free and low-cost breast and cervical cancer screening services across the country supported by both private and public grants.



    That is not true.  What is your source?

    That their affiliates make abortions available is not the same as all 750 health clinics providing abortions.  Not even close.

    Way to keep moving that conservative uterine invasion policy, though.... 

    Are you not aware of other cancers than of the breast, or is this some mammary fixation of yours back to childhood...?  Dentists do cancer screenings, dope.

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Wisconsin defunds Planned Parenthood - no more tax dollars

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

     

    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 

     



     

    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     

     

     

     



    glad to see that you admit the 3% number is BS.

    the rest is just arguing the details.

     
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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

     

    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 

     



     

    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     



    The 3% number doesn't tell you anything useful, on purpose.

     

    The FACT, by Planned Parenthood's own numbers, that 20% of the people who go there get an abortion.

     

    that's the number you just don't like.

     



    NO.  Again, you're just wrong, and again, you don't pay attention.

     

    PP's numbers state they serve over 3,000,000 people, so 330k abortions is only 11%.

    You're really bad at this....

     



    3 million world wide.  Abortion number u.s. 

    Butit you are arguing past the point.  The 3% number was chosen to make PP look not so bad.  It is BS.  They are an abortion mill responsible for about 25% of the abortions in this country.

     
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    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

     

    Not moving the goalposts, simply showing the 3% number is BS.  Simple math:

    1.8 million visitors, 334,000 abortions, or about 20% 

     



     

    The 3% number is fine and accurate; you just don't like it.

    Again, the metric we're talking about is % of total services rendered - 11,400,000 - not the number of people treated.

    Your stat only shows estimated number of abortions performed per capita.

    Either way, it's wrong.  PP estimates 3,000,000 people served, so your stat would mean 11% per cap maximum.

    The fact is that not every PP clinic performs abortions, so 100% of visitors to a single clinic would mean a 0% per capita abortion rate.

     



    The 3% number doesn't tell you anything useful, on purpose.

     

    The FACT, by Planned Parenthood's own numbers, that 20% of the people who go there get an abortion.

     

    that's the number you just don't like.

     



    NO.  Again, you're just wrong, and again, you don't pay attention.

     

    PP's numbers state they serve over 3,000,000 people, so 330k abortions is only 11%.

    You're really bad at this....

     

     



    3 million world wide.  Abortion number u.s. 

     

    Butit you are arguing past the point.  The 3% number was chosen to make PP look not so bad.  It is BS.  They are an abortion mill responsible for about 25% of the abortions in this country.




    Well..even in your faux scenario..that means hospitals and private doctors are responsible for 75% of all abortions in this country...so is the solution to shut them down as well?

     

    Skeeter obviously doesn't know much about calculating statistics or about data analysis. The 3% is the a comparison of services. It is really the only objective way to quantify the percentage. It's unfortunate that you don't like the answer..but it doesn't change the fact that it is the most accurate anaylsis. You can't compare # of services to # of people. 

     

    BTW...mammograms are not the only form of cancer screening..in fact you can argue that it's not a screening at all..but a diagnostic test. Screenings for all manner of cancers which can affect a woman are usually done in the dr's office of clinic..and I would hope you don't need me to describe  those things to you.

     

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