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WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

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    WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    WSJ:
    The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

    The Lifeline program—begun in 1984 to ensure that poor people aren't cut off from jobs, families and emergency services—is funded by charges that appear on the monthly bills of every landline and wireless-phone customer. Payouts under the program have shot up from $819 million in 2008, as more wireless carriers have persuaded regulators to let them offer the service.

    Suspecting that many of the new subscribers were ineligible, the Federal Communications Commission tightened the rules last year and required carriers to verify that existing subscribers were eligible. The agency estimated 15% of users would be weeded out, but far more were dropped.

    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    Lifeline users have been a source of subscriber growth in the otherwise saturated U.S. market and helped fuel the expansion of companies like TracFone, now the fifth-largest U.S. wireless carrier...[corporate cronyism thrown in for good measure!]

    Just as with food stamps EBT cards, whne the massive fraud is uncovered, bring on the usual liberal talking points:

    "the program wasnt started by Obama!" (just tripled in size in a few years, to win more votes, and fatten crony capitalist busineses)

    "just tighten up the 'fraud',  and all is well "

    (the entire program is a fraud, and government bureaucrats and their crony capitalists buddies just keep on expanding these programs to endlessly).

     

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    And what happens to these people's Reaganphones when they are found to be fraudulent? 

    They will be tossed from the program and the taxpayer wins.  Kudos to this administration for doing something about the fraud in the Reaganphone program.

     

     

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    In response to UserName99's comment:

    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    And what happens to these people's Reaganphones when they are found to be fraudulent? 

    They will be tossed from the program and the taxpayer wins.  Kudos to this administration for doing something about the fraud in the Reaganphone program.

     

     



    HAHAHAHAHA the FCC is the administration now? Typical...

    And the only way taxpayers win is if the charge funding this program gets lowered....which it will not. So we the taxpayers will still be charged the same amount in our monthly bills. So how exactly do we taxpayers "win"?

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    In response to UserName99's comment:

    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    And what happens to these people's Reaganphones when they are found to be fraudulent? 

    They will be tossed from the program and the taxpayer wins.  Kudos to this administration for doing something about the fraud in the Reaganphone program.

     



    The Obama Administration TRIPLED the size of this crooked program in no time flat.....and 41% were not eligible...

    And you blame Reagan...LOL.

     
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    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    And what happens to these people's Reaganphones when they are found to be fraudulent? 

    They will be tossed from the program and the taxpayer wins.  Kudos to this administration for doing something about the fraud in the Reaganphone program.

     

     

     



     

    HAHAHAHAHA the FCC is the administration now? Typical...

    And the only way taxpayers win is if the charge funding this program gets lowered....which it will not. So we the taxpayers will still be charged the same amount in our monthly bills. So how exactly do we taxpayers "win"?




    The FCC commisioner is appointed by the president.

    If 41% of the users are frauds and they are removed from the program, it will save taxpayers money.  Do you deny this?

     

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

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    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    And what happens to these people's Reaganphones when they are found to be fraudulent? 

    They will be tossed from the program and the taxpayer wins.  Kudos to this administration for doing something about the fraud in the Reaganphone program.

     

     



    The Obama Administration TRIPLED the size of this crooked program in no time flat.....and 41% were not eligible...

     

    And you blame Reagan...LOL.



    Don't you know? Everything wrong in the world today is either Reagan or GWB's fault.

     
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    And you blame Reagan...LOL.




    As you stated....'The entire program is a fraud'. 

    Which administration started the program?

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

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    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

     

    In response to UserName99's comment:

     

    A review of five top recipients of Lifeline support conducted by the FCC for the Journal showed that 41% of their more than six million subscribers either couldn't demonstrate their eligibility or didn't respond to requests for certification.

    And what happens to these people's Reaganphones when they are found to be fraudulent? 

    They will be tossed from the program and the taxpayer wins.  Kudos to this administration for doing something about the fraud in the Reaganphone program.

     

     

     



     

    HAHAHAHAHA the FCC is the administration now? Typical...

    And the only way taxpayers win is if the charge funding this program gets lowered....which it will not. So we the taxpayers will still be charged the same amount in our monthly bills. So how exactly do we taxpayers "win"?

     




     

    The FCC commisioner is appointed by the president.

    If 41% of the users are frauds and they are removed from the program, it will save taxpayers money.  Do you deny this?

     



    Right..I forgot...anything good, president gets credit...anything bad...it's someone else's fault. Gotcha

    If the tax we pay does not decrease then no it will NOT save us money. DUH!

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    In response to UserName99's comment:

     

    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     

     

    And you blame Reagan...LOL.

     




    As you stated....'The entire program is a fraud'. 

     

    Which administration started the program?

     



    Which administration ramped it up bigger than it ever has been? And if it's such a fraud why didn't Obama get rid if the program?

     

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

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    So let me get this straight.....

    The program, started under Ronnie-raygun, had never required people to certify their eligibility.

    This administration tightend the rules, something the wingnuts never thought of doing, and subsequently catches alot of deadbeats.

    From the article:

    "The program rules we inherited were designed for the age of the rotary phone and failed to protect the program from abuse," FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski said.

    And the wingnuts have a problem with this?

     

    Hilarious!!!!



    WHOOSH....as usual

     
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    Which administration ramped it up bigger than it ever has been?

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    Just like Faith Based Initiatives, which was, of course, HORRIBLE when it was under Bush.

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    In response to airborne-rgr's comment:

    Heh, heh, heh... sure thing spanky.

    Like I said, the wingnuts have a problem with this admin cutting fraud.

     

    Freakin Hilarious



    Wrong again...seriously...do you ever get tired of being so wrong?

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    The Facts

    The Lifeline Program was established in 1984 to subsidize landline phone service for low-income individuals. Under the program, telecommunications carriers submit reimbursement requests to the government-run Universal Service Fund (USF) to receive a subsidy for services provided to qualifying low-income subscribers. The USF is funded through fees collected from telecommunications carriers which are directly passed onto their customers, as part their telephone bill.

    In 2008, the Lifeline Program was expanded to include wireless service providers. Between 2008 and 2009, non-landline costs for the program doubled – from $143 million to $384 million – and then doubled again, totaling over $719 million in 2010. Before the certification of the first wireless carrier, the overall Lifeline Program cost $822 million per year, an amount consistent with the previous five years. That number grew to $1.025 billion in 2009 and to $1.315 billion in 2010. In 2011, it grew to $1.75 billion. According to the Federal Communications Commission, it is common for multiple wireless service providers to seek reimbursement for Lifeline services provided to the same household.

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    "I guess if your definition of 'ramp-up' is to put in place tighter rules to catch deadbeats which actually lowers the number of people in the program and saves money, then ya, sure.."

    So this is your "feather in the cap" for Obama:

    Tripling the cost of this giveaway program to $2.1 billion, and allowing at least 41% of recipients to commit fraud..and then weaseling about 'reform' when responding to the Wall Street Journal's inquiries...

     

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    In response to WhatDoYouWantNow's comment:

    In response to WhichOnesPink2's comment:

    the FCC is the administration now?

     


    Maybe you were too busy fighting with 12AM to notice, but a rather common theme in the conservative threads about federal agencies under Obama is that he is responsible for all the agency screw-ups.

    Why should that change when the agency is clamping down on fraud?



    Mmmm no...what a common theme in the librul threads is anything good that happens Obama gets credit....anything bad, it's someone else's fault. Preferably Bush's fault.

     

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    Airborne missing the actual point of the OP...what a shocker...

     
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    Re: WSJ: at least 41% improperly claimed 'Obamaphone'; program cost $2.2 billion...

    "Why should that change when the agency is clamping down on fraud?"

    LOL...beyond parody...akin to thanking the bank robbers for "clamping down on fraud" when caught redhanded with their bags of money....

     

     
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