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    I work at a soup kitchen several times a month in the city.  I have never seen an emaciated, staring person.  

     

     


    Well, using just your small sample and estimating just HALF of those people to be on food stamps...

    ...then it seems the food stamps ARE one of the things keeping people from starving.

    Take away the food stamps, and then get back to us.

     

     

    You also ignore the issue of mal- and under-nutrition, while your elitist crack of "making poor food choices" is the same as "let them eat cake".

     

     

     



     

    Food stamps are not needed, period.  

    I know you all want to "feel good" by supporting feeding the starving children, but it is emotion, not fact, in this country.  We are swimming in food to the point where OBESITY is the problem effecting the poor, not hunger, and we turn half of the feed stock into FUEL.

    Food is cheaper and more plentiful here than anywhere.  The problem you claim doesn't exist.  People are not starving.

    Get your logic straight and get back to me.




    Food stamps are not needed ..... and your opinion doesn't count , period .

    You have a history of saying some of the most dumbest things that I have ever seen in print but this one takes the CRUMBS ...... not cake .... but CRUMBS .

    Now go back to your Soup Kitchen !

     
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    "It is 100% fraud, as it is not needed"

     

     

     

    " Generally, the elements of an action for deceit are a material misrepresentation of fact by the defendant, made with knowledge of its falsity, with the intent that it be relied on by the plaintiff, and reliance by the plaintiff to his or her damage. "


    1 Massachusetts Proof of Cases Civil § 16:2 (2012-2013 ed.)

     
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    Americans are committed to helping our sisters and brothers who are struggling, but we are seeing the damaging human consequences of our broken welfare state," said Senator Jeff Sessions.

    "We spend a trillion dollars each year on federal poverty programs. That’s more than the budget for Social Security or Defense. But poverty seems only to increase. Something is wrong. Compassion demands that we change."

    If you listen closely to what liberals say, it becomes clear they care less about the poor people becoming self sufficient and moving out of their circumstance...rather, they denigrate poor people by wanting them to be permanent government dependents. Their snotty attitude is, buy them off and shut them up, keep them away from their gated community.

    We should get rid of ALL of these programs and millions of bureaucrats, and just offer a cash subsidy to all those in need. One trillion would provide plenty for all.

    Would love to see a few more fatcat liberal bureaucrats on the street, after losing their useless job making sure poor people stay poor.

     
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    Doing extensive searches on "hunger in the US" and "starvation in the US".  All hunger data points to EBT and SNAP programs and the growing numbers.  All starvation data points to none.

    Virtually no starvation deaths.  If someone can find any different info, I would love ot read/see it.

    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left. 

     



    You have it right.  

     

    There are people starving in the world, but it isn't here.

    The real problem is that liberals can't admit to the success of private farms and American ingenuity which have brought us to a point where people in this country do not starve.

    Instead, they need to create the dependency on government, then claim to solve a problem that does not exist.

     




     

    Thanks.

    Still can`t find one death from starvation in the US..............not ONE!




    Duh. Of course not. You kinda proved that EBT/food stamps work.

     
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    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left.




    Starvation is simply what would happen if people like Paul Ryan got their way, and a budget was passed that eventually left for domestic spending a smaller dollar amount than it now costs to run the FBI.....   

     

    Because then the entire food-provision arm of the safety net would have to shut down. And no, don't give me that charity nonsense. That it is nonsense is why these programs started in the first place.

    Nonetheless, I'm willing to bet that some of the homeless are pretty close to starvation but likely die of disease first - the ones too mentally ill to seek help, etc.

     

     

     

    However, how much "hunger" do you think should be tolerable? If a single mom's kid eats one decent meal a day? Two?

    As someone who has also worked quite hard, I simply do not see that in the richest country on Earth, we should be saying "eh, as long as they aren't dying in the streets, it's enough".

    I'd be all behind stronger enforcement to cut down on abuse of the programs. But I want the programs there.

    Humans have a nasty habit of putting too little stock in circumstance when they have worked hard and gotten ahead.

     

     




     

    No hunger should be tolerable.  None!  That`s why I give a ton to charity and certainly do my part to support these programs.  We have to have these programs but, we have to stop the abuse.  We also should be striving to reduce the numbers on SNAP and EBT by growing and creating jobs.  Less dependency is a good thing. 

    I`m not so sure some of the 47% think this way.



    Maybe we should start making things in this country again. Maybe there should be higher tarrifs on imported goods. Maybe business shouldn't be allowed to hire undocumented workers.Maybe CEOs should be held more accountable and not offshore production because it makes their bottom line look better.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

    In response to Sistersledge's comment:

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to MattyScornD's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    I work at a soup kitchen several times a month in the city.  I have never seen an emaciated, staring person.  

     

     


    Well, using just your small sample and estimating just HALF of those people to be on food stamps...

    ...then it seems the food stamps ARE one of the things keeping people from starving.

    Take away the food stamps, and then get back to us.

     

     

    You also ignore the issue of mal- and under-nutrition, while your elitist crack of "making poor food choices" is the same as "let them eat cake".

     

     

     



     

    Food stamps are not needed, period.  

    I know you all want to "feel good" by supporting feeding the starving children, but it is emotion, not fact, in this country.  We are swimming in food to the point where OBESITY is the problem effecting the poor, not hunger, and we turn half of the feed stock into FUEL.

    Food is cheaper and more plentiful here than anywhere.  The problem you claim doesn't exist.  People are not starving.

    Get your logic straight and get back to me.

     




    Food stamps are not needed ..... and your opinion doesn't count , period .

     

    You have a history of saying some of the most dumbest things that I have ever seen in print but this one takes the CRUMBS ...... not cake .... but CRUMBS .

    Now go back to your Soup Kitchen !



    Strange response to a successful market condition that distributes plentiful food in expensively.

    but, don't let the facts stop your emotional rant.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

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    "It is 100% fraud, as it is not needed"

     

     

     

    " Generally, the elements of an action for deceit are a material misrepresentation of fact by the defendant, made with knowledge of its falsity, with the intent that it be relied on by the plaintiff, and reliance by the plaintiff to his or her damage. "


    1 Massachusetts Proof of Cases Civil § 16:2 (2012-2013 ed.)



    We live in a country where no one starves, food is plentiful and cheap.  I call that 100% fraud on the part of government.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

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    Doing extensive searches on "hunger in the US" and "starvation in the US".  All hunger data points to EBT and SNAP programs and the growing numbers.  All starvation data points to none.

    Virtually no starvation deaths.  If someone can find any different info, I would love ot read/see it.

    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left. 

     



    You have it right.  

     

    There are people starving in the world, but it isn't here.

    The real problem is that liberals can't admit to the success of private farms and American ingenuity which have brought us to a point where people in this country do not starve.

    Instead, they need to create the dependency on government, then claim to solve a problem that does not exist.

     




     

    Thanks.

    Still can`t find one death from starvation in the US..............not ONE!

     




    Duh. Of course not. You kinda proved that EBT/food stamps work.

     

     




     

    As usual, my stalker has not read the thread and is, yet again, displaying his/her lack of understanding and comprehension. 

    I`ll wait while you go look for the countless Americans that have died from starvation recently, during the last 30 years, and of course, before the Obama administration saw this dramatic increase to 48 million.

    Good luck with your reasearch.



    Double duh. I never said anyone has starved. I simply pointed out that government intervention has made sure this hasn't happened.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

    In response to jedwardnicky's comment:

    In response to tacobreath's comment:

     

    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

    In response to tacobreath's comment:

     

    Doing extensive searches on "hunger in the US" and "starvation in the US".  All hunger data points to EBT and SNAP programs and the growing numbers.  All starvation data points to none.

    Virtually no starvation deaths.  If someone can find any different info, I would love ot read/see it.

    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left. 

     



    You have it right.  

     

    There are people starving in the world, but it isn't here.

    The real problem is that liberals can't admit to the success of private farms and American ingenuity which have brought us to a point where people in this country do not starve.

    Instead, they need to create the dependency on government, then claim to solve a problem that does not exist.

     




     

    Thanks.

    Still can`t find one death from starvation in the US..............not ONE!

     




    Duh. Of course not. You kinda proved that EBT/food stamps work.

     



    Typical liberal logic.  Take away the food stamps and no one will starve.

    my wife and I spend @ 60 Dollars a week and eat very well.  When times were tougher, I spent about 40 a week.  That's not a lot to come up with.

    I look at that, and then I look at the people in front of me at the checkout counter using their food stamps/EBT cards, talking on their cellphone, getting into their car, and it becomes clear it is not a matter of necessity, but a matter of wanting a cellphone ( for example) more than paying for food.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

    In response to tacobreath's comment:

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    In response to tacobreath's comment:

     

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    In response to tacobreath's comment:

    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left.




    Starvation is simply what would happen if people like Paul Ryan got their way, and a budget was passed that eventually left for domestic spending a smaller dollar amount than it now costs to run the FBI.....   

     

    Because then the entire food-provision arm of the safety net would have to shut down. And no, don't give me that charity nonsense. That it is nonsense is why these programs started in the first place.

    Nonetheless, I'm willing to bet that some of the homeless are pretty close to starvation but likely die of disease first - the ones too mentally ill to seek help, etc.

     

     

     

    However, how much "hunger" do you think should be tolerable? If a single mom's kid eats one decent meal a day? Two?

    As someone who has also worked quite hard, I simply do not see that in the richest country on Earth, we should be saying "eh, as long as they aren't dying in the streets, it's enough".

    I'd be all behind stronger enforcement to cut down on abuse of the programs. But I want the programs there.

    Humans have a nasty habit of putting too little stock in circumstance when they have worked hard and gotten ahead.

     

     




     

    No hunger should be tolerable.  None!  That`s why I give a ton to charity and certainly do my part to support these programs.  We have to have these programs but, we have to stop the abuse.  We also should be striving to reduce the numbers on SNAP and EBT by growing and creating jobs.  Less dependency is a good thing. 

    I`m not so sure some of the 47% think this way.

     



    Maybe we should start making things in this country again. Maybe there should be higher tarrifs on imported goods. Maybe business shouldn't be allowed to hire undocumented workers.Maybe CEOs should be held more accountable and not offshore production because it makes their bottom line look better.

     

     




     

    Absolutely agree!    Let`s start with Jeff Immelt from GE.  One of America`s wealthiest companies, Immelt made $29 million last year and GE paid ZERO U.S Taxes. 

    Oh......and BTW, he`s Obama`s Job Czar!



    Sure! We can start with him, but let's not finish with him. I gotta say, I've new respect for you! I thought you were one of those people who thought the rich had gotten there because of "hard work and being job creators" and that taxing large corporations stifled expansion. But now? I respect you to a certain extent!

     

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

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    In response to tacobreath's comment:

     

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    In response to skeeter20's comment:

     

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    Doing extensive searches on "hunger in the US" and "starvation in the US".  All hunger data points to EBT and SNAP programs and the growing numbers.  All starvation data points to none.

    Virtually no starvation deaths.  If someone can find any different info, I would love ot read/see it.

    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left. 

     



    You have it right.  

     

    There are people starving in the world, but it isn't here.

    The real problem is that liberals can't admit to the success of private farms and American ingenuity which have brought us to a point where people in this country do not starve.

    Instead, they need to create the dependency on government, then claim to solve a problem that does not exist.

     




     

    Thanks.

    Still can`t find one death from starvation in the US..............not ONE!

     




    Duh. Of course not. You kinda proved that EBT/food stamps work.

     

     




     

    As usual, my stalker has not read the thread and is, yet again, displaying his/her lack of understanding and comprehension. 

    I`ll wait while you go look for the countless Americans that have died from starvation recently, during the last 30 years, and of course, before the Obama administration saw this dramatic increase to 48 million.

    Good luck with your reasearch.

     



    Double duh. I never said anyone has starved. I simply pointed out that government intervention has made sure this hasn't happened.

     



    It hasn't, government intervention has not prevented people from starving.

    what has prevented people from starving is a vibrant free economy that delivers bananas to your market at 70 cents a point. Or, chicken to your market at 69 cents a pound.  Ad, there is such an abundance of food that we ship large quantities to it overseas, and have been doing so for decades.  Remember how we shipped we hearusset he USSR when their planned economy failed?

    what food stamps have done is shifted a segment of the population towards dependency.  There is no real problem of starvation in this country.  None. Made up problem.

     
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    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left.




    Starvation is simply what would happen if people like Paul Ryan got their way, and a budget was passed that eventually left for domestic spending a smaller dollar amount than it now costs to run the FBI.....   

     

    Because then the entire food-provision arm of the safety net would have to shut down. And no, don't give me that charity nonsense. That it is nonsense is why these programs started in the first place.

    Nonetheless, I'm willing to bet that some of the homeless are pretty close to starvation but likely die of disease first - the ones too mentally ill to seek help, etc.

     

     

     

    However, how much "hunger" do you think should be tolerable? If a single mom's kid eats one decent meal a day? Two?

    As someone who has also worked quite hard, I simply do not see that in the richest country on Earth, we should be saying "eh, as long as they aren't dying in the streets, it's enough".

    I'd be all behind stronger enforcement to cut down on abuse of the programs. But I want the programs there.

    Humans have a nasty habit of putting too little stock in circumstance when they have worked hard and gotten ahead.

     

     




     

    No hunger should be tolerable.  None!  That`s why I give a ton to charity and certainly do my part to support these programs.  We have to have these programs but, we have to stop the abuse.  We also should be striving to reduce the numbers on SNAP and EBT by growing and creating jobs.  Less dependency is a good thing. 

    I`m not so sure some of the 47% think this way.

     



    Maybe we should start making things in this country again. Maybe there should be higher tarrifs on imported goods. Maybe business shouldn't be allowed to hire undocumented workers.Maybe CEOs should be held more accountable and not offshore production because it makes their bottom line look better.

     

     




     

    Absolutely agree!    Let`s start with Jeff Immelt from GE.  One of America`s wealthiest companies, Immelt made $29 million last year and GE paid ZERO U.S Taxes. 

    Oh......and BTW, he`s Obama`s Job Czar!

     



    Sure! We can start with him, but let's not finish with him. I gotta say, I've new respect for you! I thought you were one of those people who thought the rich had gotten there because of "hard work and being job creators" and that taxing large corporations stifled expansion. But now? I respect you to a certain extent!

     

     

    rich people didn't get rich due to hard work and being job creators?

    So, are you saying successful people are bad people? Did all of them become rich solely by taking advantage of people?  If you are rich, you got there through nefarious means?

    typical liberal illogic, that rich people are all Snidley Whiplash's.  

    i smell jealousy. And a poor understanding of what it takes to be successful.

     
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    skeeter you pay 60 dollars a week on food ............ no wonder you visit a soup kitchen sereval times of month ...... you are eating there for FREE !

     
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    Doing extensive searches on "hunger in the US" and "starvation in the US".  All hunger data points to EBT and SNAP programs and the growing numbers.  All starvation data points to none.

    Virtually no starvation deaths.  If someone can find any different info, I would love ot read/see it.

    Maybe I`m not searching in the right place but it sure seems like starvation in the US is an ideologicall myth (yet another) on the Left. 

     



    You have it right.  

     

    There are people starving in the world, but it isn't here.

    The real problem is that liberals can't admit to the success of private farms and American ingenuity which have brought us to a point where people in this country do not starve.

    Instead, they need to create the dependency on government, then claim to solve a problem that does not exist.

     




     

    Thanks.

    Still can`t find one death from starvation in the US..............not ONE!

     




    Duh. Of course not. You kinda proved that EBT/food stamps work.

     

     




     

    As usual, my stalker has not read the thread and is, yet again, displaying his/her lack of understanding and comprehension. 

    I`ll wait while you go look for the countless Americans that have died from starvation recently, during the last 30 years, and of course, before the Obama administration saw this dramatic increase to 48 million.

    Good luck with your reasearch.

     



    Double duh. I never said anyone has starved. I simply pointed out that government intervention has made sure this hasn't happened.

     

     




     

    Triple duh!  Prove that!  Prove that "intervention" you speak of is anything but a scam and that countless Americans were/are dying from lack of food.

    Save yourself some time................you can`t.




    Again, I never said anyone was dying from lack of food. It is interesting to note, however, that those who are poorer tend to not be able to eat properly. Obesity, diabetes and high blood pressure (heart issues-heart attack) seem to be more issues of not being able to afford to buy the more expensive and healthy alternatives to cheap, calorie and sodium rich processed foods.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

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    skeeter you pay 60 dollars a week on food ............ no wonder you visit a soup kitchen sereval times of month ...... you are eating there for FREE !



    Haha.

    no. I eat mostly fresh food, no red meat. No processed food at all, I.e. frozen pizzas, etc.

    you can eat well on sixty dollars.

    i do eat at the soup kitchen, but only after everyone else has been served.  Sometimes, there is nothing left.

     
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    Re: Yet another Obama record accomplishment: 48 million on food stamps

    The major problem with food aid is not fraud. It's that it is still geared to depression-era goals: maximizing caloric intake.

    If we meant to tackle obeisity, food aid would be only usable on certain types of foods. And there are plenty of low-preparation cheap and nutricious foods:

     

    Beans

    Chicken, particularly whole chicken

    Beef chuck

    Bananas, apples, lettuce

     

    And so on. If one couldn't use food aid to buy frozen meals, sodas, candy, and desert.......      one would have to learn the basics of cooking.

    It took me roughly 5 minutes to figure out how to roast a chicken. Insert stuffing (which can be pre-bought, can be bread crumbs, can be anything really - rice and beans if you like). 2.5 hours on 375.

    (Though it's best if the first half is spent wrapped in a foil volcano - much juicier at the end.

     

     

    All sorts of cheap nutricious food is easy to make with minimal equipment.

     
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    skeeter you pay 60 dollars a week on food ............ no wonder you visit a soup kitchen sereval times of month ...... you are eating there for FREE !

     



    Haha.

     

    no. I eat mostly fresh food, no red meat. No processed food at all, I.e. frozen pizzas, etc.

    you can eat well on sixty dollars.

    i do eat at the soup kitchen, but only after everyone else has been served.  Sometimes, there is nothing left.




    Why are you laughing ....... I wouldn't be bragging about spending 60 dollars a week on a family of two to eat and visiting a soup kitchen .. I would be embarrassed !

     
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