You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Yes all those who do not vote for Obama are being characterized as Racists. The media plays the race card in favor of Obama, but never mentions people who are voting for Obama strictly because of his race.
    Here is part of a great article on this subject. So either you vote Obama..or your a racist.

    Here is most of the article.

    The news media have been shamefully stoking the idea that the only way Barack Obama could possibly lose is if American racists have their way. Indeed, the fact that Obama isn’t leading in polls by a wide margin “doesn’t make sense . . . unless it’s race,” says CNN’s Jack Cafferty.

    Many journalists are so committed to the racism-explains-everything line that they are labeling any effective anti-Obama ad as an attempt by John McCain to “viciously exacerbate” America’s “race-fueled angst,” in the words of one magazine writer.

    For example, a McCain ad noted that Franklin Raines, the Clinton era head of Fannie Mae who helped cause the Wall Street meltdown, advised Obama. Time’s Karen Tumulty gasped that because Raines is black, McCain is playing the race card.

    Why, she wants to know, didn’t McCain attack Obama’s even stronger ties to the even more culpable former Fannie Mae chairman, Jim Johnson, who had to resign from Obama’s vice presidential search team because of his sketchy dealings with mortgage giant Countrywide Financial? “One reason might be that Johnson is white; Raines is black,” Tumulty suggests.

    Or another reason might be that the McCain campaign was saving that attack for its next ad, which is what happened.

    According to critics, McCain’s “celebrity” ads featuring Paris Hilton and Britney Spears were nothing but tawdry race-baiting because they subliminally played on white America’s fear of black men violating the delicate flowers of white American womanhood. You’d think a cognitive warning bell would have gone off the moment anyone started suggesting that Paris Hilton and Britney Spears are icons of chastity.

     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    the thugs keep pressing the race issue as if everyone one who supports Obama calls anyone a racist. the people here get called racist because their behavior confirms that assumption.

    it satifies the whiny b*tch mentality of the conservative brain to play the victim constantly........as if white people need more advantages over minorities

    your efforts to distract will not let McSame escape his words of failure and his inability to handle ecnomic issues
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Sorry havent seen the sexist thing yet. ill do a few searches. see what i can find.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Funny that both the attack ads and the numerous examples of racism by the right-wing are attempts at exploiting the ignorance of some Americans. Anyone who votes against a candidate because of the color of that candidate's skin is ignorant first, racist a close second. Anyone who votes either for or against a candidate based upon a campaign ad is just plain ignorant.

    As they say, live by the sword....



    Have a nice day.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    oh sorry dave im lying to you and you caught me. i guess honesty is something your not equipped to deal with. You can say what you will about politics or my beliefs whatever. But I consider it rude and ignorant, to acuse me of lying when you have no idea what i have or have not heard. I posted an article to incite agressive and intelligent discourse, and then you come along.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Mattyhorn, how come you make more sense then most here on this post? I tend to disagree with everything you have ever said, but you made a logical intelligent statment about people voting based on color/race, or an ad. I dont think you can possibly exclude the attack ads on Obamas side can you?
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]Mattyhorn, how come you make more sense then most here on this post? I tend to disagree with everything you have ever said, but you made a logical intelligent statment about people voting based on color/race, or an ad. I dont think you can possibly exclude the attack ads on Obamas side can you?[/Quote]

    Absolutely not. If anyone votes based solely on one of those attack ads, then they're an idiot - pure and simple.

    By the way, I totally disagree with the strategy behind these ads from both sides, even though there's little question in my mind which side has been worse. I've written the Obama Camp precisely about this issue and my displeasure with it.

    At the end of the day, I personally believe these ads actually prevent more people from voting than they end up encouraging to vote.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Dave not sexist, Hypocrites. Major Difference. For months Senator Obama's camp pushed his lack of experience, 122 days in federal government, no executive authority etc. As an overhyped statitstic that did not matter, then When Governor Palin is chosen as VP nom, for the republican ticket, Obamas own people all start crying about her not having enough time in government. Thats known as Hypocrisy. Also if you remember, and I am not sure if you watched it so i give you the benefit of the doubt of course, the DNC where Michelle Obama came out and espoused on her Maternal Instincts, and her daughters being the "heart of my heart". The democratic supporters all shouted about how she's just a real mom and thats what we need! Then Governor Palin is announced, and its who cares about her being a mom, the republicans are using her womanhood and her kids are unimportant.
    Turn about may be fair play, but hypocrisy is not sexism. Just ask Hillary, A much stronger candidate with much more experience, but her own party picked a unknown and dumped her on the sidewalk and forced her to become a cheerleader. Now that i think about it. My dream ticket is Hillary with Sarah Palin as Veep. Running as independants now that's a ticket for change.

     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]
    Double standard:
    If you are a minority and vote for your race.. no racism BUT only for minorities ?[/Quote]


    What?!? Speak slower...you're coming through garbled.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    yes dave Mmcain supporters should stop saying there is sexism against governor palin, as long as obama supporters stop pointing out her being a woman. Its a double edged sword. yes?
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Matty what i think he meant to say is if you vote for or against a person based on thier race, and you are white, you are a racist. But if you are a minority and voting for a candidate of the same minority, purely based on the minority status, it is not racism, but should that not be racism as well?
    The double standard thing.
    To put it blunt if a Black/African american person votes for Obama because he is Black/african american , then isnt that racism. Thre seems to be a rule somehow of this not being so.

     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    The scary thing for me is i have heard people, both in person and On TV say that if Obama doesnt win, then it proves America is still dominated by racists. I worry that people would vote out of misplaced guilt or sympathy or something like that. Rather than based on facts.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    What if I'm a black woman who doesn't vote for Obama or McCain/Palin? Am I both racist and sexist? Against myself?
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]I'm sure as hell not voting for Obama, but I am voting for a black man. Am I a racist?

    Are people who are voting for Obama BECAUSE he is black racists?[/Quote] --


    I may join Greg in voting for Alan Keyes.

    Come to think of it I'd vote for Colin Powell too. You know I'd be thrilled to vote for Condoleezza Rice. I hope someday Michael Steele runs for president he'll have my vote. I also think we should draft Thomas Sowell for the White House, he'd be my number one pick for president.

    So what is the common denominator? Their character and philosophical beliefs are similar to mine. (we better leave my character out) Who cares what the color of their skin is???

    I won't vote for an extreme left wing socialist named Obama you can count on that. Call me whatever you want, as long as he loses.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Well, what if I am black and don't vote for Obama then they will call me Uncle Tom. If I am white and don't vote for Obama then I am racist. Okay, now what if I am half black and half white what will it be? Or, better yet what if I am half brown and half white? Man I am really in a big dillema.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]Well, what if I am black and don't vote for Obama then they will call me Uncle Tom. If I am white and don't vote for Obama then I am racist. Okay, now what if I am half black and half white what will it be? Or, better yet what if I am half brown and half white? Man I am really in a big dillema.[/Quote]


    Well I think the implication is clear, if you are intelligent you vote for Obama. If you are a misguided, evil, unintelligent person like me you vote for McCain. I wish I had the IQ to comprehend the brilliance of Obama, but I'm lacking I guess.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Race is not an issue that is hurting Obama.

    There will be people voting against Obama simply because of the color of his skin HOWEVER, there will be people voting FOR Obama simply due to the color of his skin.

    The question I ask. Do you think there will be more racist/ignorant votes FOR or AGAINST Obama simply due to the color of his skin??

    Race is not an issue here based on the fact that Obama will likely receive equal racist/ignorant votes for and against him in this election.

    Sorry liberals. The truth hurts. You can't play the victim in this one.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]the thugs keep pressing the race issue as if everyone one who supports Obama calls anyone a racist. the people here get called racist because their behavior confirms that assumption.

    it satifies the whiny b*tch mentality of the conservative brain to play the victim constantly........as if white people need more advantages over minorities

    your efforts to distract will not let McSame escape his words of failure and his inability to handle ecnomic issues[/Quote]
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]the thugs keep pressing the race issue as if everyone one who supports Obama calls anyone a racist. the people here get called racist because their behavior confirms that assumption.

    it satifies the whiny b*tch mentality of the conservative brain to play the victim constantly........as if white people need more advantages over minorities

    your efforts to distract will not let McSame escape his words of failure and his inability to handle ecnomic issues[/Quote]

    PS why was the Raines ad assailed by the way? Didnt Raines run Fannie into the ground and walk away with 50 mil? It surely wasnt being assailed based on race was it? BS, flap trap is all you have. Still waiting for you to post a new discussion on any issue of your choice. I will be there in spades to rebut anything your simple kool aid filled mind can come up with.
     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from TheArtist-formerly-known-as-Boo. Show TheArtist-formerly-known-as-Boo's posts

    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]the thugs keep pressing the race issue as if everyone one who supports Obama calls anyone a racist. the people here get called racist because their behavior confirms that assumption.

    it satifies the whiny b*tch mentality of the conservative brain to play the victim constantly........as if white people need more advantages over minorities

    your efforts to distract will not let McSame escape his words of failure and his inability to handle ecnomic issues[/Quote]

    PS you are a complete fraud on this issue. You talk big and loud and puff out and beat your chest about liberal ideals and supporting the right man at the right time and then you write dribble trying to justify that "white folks" are only racist here but not everywhere. Total utter BS. I read and it is likely true that there could be as much as a 6% swing toward McCain based on people lying to pollsters. That does not make all of them bigots, but does say they fear being labeled a bigot.

    I also see stories about what might happen in the streets if Obama loses a close race. So the news is full of racial bias already. Please spare us, if you arent some lame 20 something from a nice middle class family that hasnt had to work for anything you can call me Kris Kringle because Santa Claus is coming to town. Frankly if you deny the characteristic I would think it more true. Good day PS, keep up the ridiculous post it makes you look more like a moron every day.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    SOMETHING IS WRONG HERE the post above this has my name on it, but i did not write that , and if you folow the link you can see that it is not the correct link. Have we resorted to faking posts now?
    Rest assured i will follow this up.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    Afirmative action is a racist program and Obama is a Racist for backing it
     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from Mattyhorn. Show Mattyhorn's posts

    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]Matty what i think he meant to say is if you vote for or against a person based on thier race, and you are white, you are a racist. But if you are a minority and voting for a candidate of the same minority, purely based on the minority status, it is not racism, but should that not be racism as well?
    The double standard thing.
    To put it blunt if a Black/African american person votes for Obama because he is Black/african american , then isnt that racism. Thre seems to be a rule somehow of this not being so.[/Quote]


    I've said this before at length...one more time:

    Racism is by definition a question of morality and humanity - whether a person should be treated the same as another regardless of their race.

    There is NO moral equivalence between voting for or supporting one candidate because of their race AND NOT voting for or supporting the same candidate because of their race.

    The former action is intended to uplift or elevate the candidate beyond racial boundaries, while the latter action is intended to diminish or discount the candidate by confining them to racial boundaries.

    The difficult part in all this is in the intent. As a white person, why shouldn't I have a vested interest in trying to encourage a person of color as much as I would another white person? To me, there is no difference whatsoever. But to discriminate based on race is not only wrong - it's reprehensible.

    Remember, if you think that McCain is more qualified, then that's up to you, as is voting for him. But who are you to judge the intent of a black man who may happen to think that Obama is more qualified? Or to try to judge the fact that African-Americans consistently vote for Democrats in the 85th percentile??

     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    [Quote]Race is not an issue that is hurting Obama.

    There will be people voting against Obama simply because of the color of his skin HOWEVER, there will be people voting FOR Obama simply due to the color of his skin.

    The question I ask. Do you think there will be more racist/ignorant votes FOR or AGAINST Obama simply due to the color of his skin??

    Race is not an issue here based on the fact that Obama will likely receive equal racist/ignorant votes for and against him in this election.

    Sorry liberals. The truth hurts. You can't play the victim in this one.[/Quote]

    Extremely simplistic way to look at it. Some will vote against him cause he's black, others will vote for him cause he's black. You're right.

    However, what you need to look at to have any sort of impact behind your statement are:
    - black v. white population numbers in the US
    - what % of each vote
    - ex-felons can't vote- what group is more impacted in this country due to that?

    Look into those and get back to me on what group will have the bigger impact. I am probably even leaving a few factors out, but your "analysis" is shallow to say the least.
     
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    You are a Racist if you do not vote for Obama!

    hi mr kringle, when is Santy coming?

    [Quote]

    PS you are a complete fraud on this issue. You talk big and loud and puff out and beat your chest about liberal ideals and supporting the right man at the right time and then you write dribble trying to justify that "white folks" are only racist here but not everywhere. Total utter BS. I read and it is likely true that there could be as much as a 6% swing toward McCain based on people lying to pollsters. That does not make all of them bigots, but does say they fear being labeled a bigot.

    I also see stories about what might happen in the streets if Obama loses a close race. So the news is full of racial bias already. Please spare us, if you arent some lame 20 something from a nice middle class family that hasnt had to work for anything you can call me Kris Kringle because Santa Claus is coming to town. Frankly if you deny the characteristic I would think it more true. Good day PS, keep up the ridiculous post it makes you look more like a moron every day.[/Quote]
     
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