Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 7:21 AM EDT
- skeeter20
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In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
I thought Romney did well. The debate was better than I thought it would be. I wish they could have had fewer segments and allowed to spend more time on the segments.
I have one question. If Romney is going to cut taxes, increase defense spending, not change social security, not change Medicare for people on Medicare or near retirement, isn't going to cut education spending, how does the deficit get cut? He said that the tax cuts would be paid for by increased revenue related to a growing economy, but means the existing deficit would stay the same.
Romney answered your question repeatedly. Do something Obama has not done, something that liberals think can't be done. Grow the economy and cut spending simultaneously.
Growing the economy, and implementing his plan means that in the very least, the deficit as a percent of the economy drops, so, think his position would be that the size of the deficit would not stay the same.
However, Romney's plan is easier said than done, I'll give you that. But, at least it is a plan.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 7:24 AM EDT
- skeeter20
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In response to sunapee's comment:
I was amazingly impressed by Romney's debate skills. He is obviously highly intelligent and spoke very convincingly,backing up his arguments and ideas with many factual examples. This iis one time that the media could not spin their negative, critical opinion of Romney. All summer long he has been unfairly portrayed on numerous occasions by the liberal media, while they have fawned over Obama and given him a pass on questionable actions. Thwy have all but handed him a second term, but after tonight the American public who watched this debate have seen for themselves that Romney can lead this country.
Now can one possibly hope for the media to report the news, not slant it?
It drives the mainstream media crazy that Romney gets the opportunity to talk directly to the American people without going through their Obama-filter.
I hear there is a suicide watch at MSNBC.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 7:29 AM EDT
- skeeter20
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In response to Pan's comment:
In response to polar123's comment:
Jim Lehrer was terrible. Romney won this debate, but failed again to explain how he is going to achieve what he discussed. Obama seemed nervous, a bit overconfident, and couldn't quite articulate what he was thinking. Not sure if tonight will change many voters minds, but Obama clearly needs to come out better prepared for the next debate. It will be interesting to see how the media spins this one.
Several of us watched the debate together and we did not think after seeing it that Romney won -- Obama's points and plans had MUCH more substance than Romney's. Romney is such a shape-shifter -- he evaded saying anything concrete about what he will do. We were wishing that Obama challenge Romney's distortions and outright lies more vigorously-- Obama is way too polite, and this has been the general problem. He is reticent to put the blame firmly where it needs to be put -- on the Republicans and their unpatriotic and self-serviing obstructionism. He needs to be more of a fighter. Part of the problem is that he needs to tread carefully so as not to appear as an angry black man, but part of it is that at his core Obama is a very reasonable and respectful person.
We think that Obama DID articulate what he was thinking well -- he is all about solving problems (and he clearly has practical solutions, something that Romney totally lacks), but he didn't deal well at all with the gladiator-combat aspects of the debate.
But the mainstream media is way off. Watching CNN afterwards was pure torture -- CNN's personnel are clearly biased in favor of conservatives -- many, even most, come off as Republican shills. I absolutely can't stand Wolf Blitzer. CNN has fallen soooo far.
Wow. I have to say you might be the only person in the country today to think that both Obama won the debate and that CNN pundits are conservative. Just wow.
BTW: How long have you worked at the Globe?
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 8:23 AM EDT
- hotchicken
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Obama, why stupid people should not be allowed to vote.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 8:29 AM EDT
- hotchicken
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Thank you Romney for finally exposing this joke as a president. Anyone who voted for this clown should be embarrassed.
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 8:30 AM EDT
- tvoter
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I think it may have been a game changer! The 18% who are undecided but, perhaps leaning one way or the other; witnessed a strong business executive school a novice; seemingly unprepared and clueless nice guy!
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 8:37 AM EDT
- Robin39
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Mitt Romney did great!
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 8:56 AM EDT
- smidda
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In response to Pan's comment:
OBAMA DID FINE -- SOLID FACTS AND A SOLID POLITICAL PROGRAM THAT WILL BENEFIT THE MIDDLE CLASS.
ROMNEY is vaporware, elusive as smoke.
Pan, did you watch and listen to the debate? Obama had NO specifics, he went off topic every time. The guy knows nothing about everything. And you still support him?
Please explain why he is taking $760 BILLION from Medicaid for ObamaCare!
Please Explain why he GAVE $90 Billion to alternative energy, who are his supporters and filed for bankruptcy after they received the money, why that is OK but let Oil and other industries get 2 Billion in tax credits is not OK.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 8:59 AM EDT
- smidda
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Obama kept going back to the same old 3 campaign slogans on every questions.
He had NOTHING to say, Because he has no knowledge of the issues.
Now we know why they keep Joe Biden on his team.
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 9:08 AM EDT
- essexcnty1
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In response to redbaron1966's comment:
Mitt Romney talks a great game on the Middle Class, for which he called were victims. He went so far to say he not against Community Colleges, yet in his first year in office as Governor, he went so far try to consolidate the Community Colleges into four year colleges under the guise of consolidation, which failed.
I don't see this as a game changer by any means. Romney was rather uptight to begin, and there were some Obama grimaces, but considering that 83% have made their decisions already WITHOUT this debate. In fact in Nashua, NH, a bar up here, was teaming with people....watching the Red Sox. So that leads to my 83% analogy.
Go Nashua!....NOT!
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 9:31 AM EDT
Romney has finally abandoned the right wing extreme in favor of a more moderate approach. Will it help at this late date? I didn't see the debate last night but the MSM is declaring Romney the winner. This should put to bed the claims by the right of biased media.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 9:32 AM EDT
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 9:48 AM EDT
- cbuck80
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Romney won hands down last night and the President had nothing. Romney explained his 5 point plan. What don't people understand. Lowering tax rates and more people in the work force = more revenue.
If Romney can keep this up and Obama can't explain his record than it's over.
He was successful individually
He was successful in the private sector
He was successful with the Olympics
He was successful in Massachusetts (87%) Democrat
Now if elected he will be successful as President
That is very likeable.
What is so hard to understand.
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Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 10:40 AM EDT
- macnh1
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that was a fun debate...1 down, 2 to go to stop 4 more years of incompetence.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 10:46 AM EDT
In response to DirtyWaterLover's comment:
He said that the tax cuts would be paid for by increased revenue related to a growing economy, but means the existing deficit would stay the same
Right. It basically only works if the economy not only recovers but goes into massive expansion. Insantly.
Which won't happen.
Obama also missed an opportunity to point out that Mitt's "shift it to the states" argument means only one of two things:
- Each state raises state taxes by the amount federal taxes are cut, doing nothing for the taxpayer.
- States do not raise taxes and simply say screw 'em, as to whoever benefits from what was cut from the federal budget.
States aren't some magic rug everything can be swept under.
Re: Your take on the first Presidential Debate?
posted at 10/4/2012 10:48 AM EDT
In response to ThatWasMe's comment:
What a lying sack Obama is. HE IS DONE
Christ. We get it already. You hate Obama and think he will lose. Saying it over and over again in 30 posts doesn't give your personal beliefs +10 strength and extra hit points.
