Zimmerman about to go on trial. Things look a little diffeent now.

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    In response to ComingLiberalCrackup's comment:

     "maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no."

    So if Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman, viciously beating his head against the pavement and also breaking his nose, then Zimmerman has no right to pull his weapon to save his own life?

    You clearly have already made your mind up, that it was a racist act against an innocent kid, it fits your predetermined template.



    If Martin looked suspicious to Zimmerman because he was walking in and out of buildings in the rain, how do you think Zimmerman looked to Martin?  If Zimmerman was justified in following Martin, then Martin was justified in attacking Zimmerman.  Beating him senseless was lawful, according to Florida's 'stand your ground' law.  

    I'd have a hard time finding Zimmerman guilty of murder, because I don't think this is what he intended to happen, but he can't dodge all accountability here - his actions are responsible for Martin's death.  

     
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    In response to MrCricket's comment:

    the kid whooping zimmerman, a grown man, also doesn't prove who attacked who. but we do know that zimmerman was following/stalking him and he confronted the kid, not the other way around. either way when you bring a gun to a fist fight and pull the trigger ending someone, especially a minor's life, that is murder to me. i'm not a judge or part of the jury and that's my opinion. the guy was looking for trouble and he found it.




    Ok, but, Im glad we use due process and a presumption of innocence and not your opinion.

     
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    maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid?



    Yes, if he felt his life was in danger!

     
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    I think she did a good job as a witness, considering her age and those handicaps.

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    She is 19!

    Other than 2 acts of perjury...ok

     

     
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    I think she did a good job as a witness, considering her age and those handicaps.

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    She is 19!

    Other than 2 acts of perjury...ok

     



    Trying to be kind.  Her friend was killed.  Her life is that of a 19 year old illiterate racist. 

     

     
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    so, on one hand, you tell us about main stream media bias in the case. then, you provide us with main stream media articles to support your claim.. i don't think anyone under the age of 30 takes fox news seriously.

    and again, maybe martin was giving zimmerman a whooping. that doesn't prove he was the aggressor and started the fight. trayvon martin wasn't riding around following zimmerman, zimmerman was riding around following martin. zimmerman approached martin. common sense would say zimmerman is at fault for starting a confrontation. maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no.




    I know people under 30 don't take fox news seriously.  Why should they, when they have the Daily Show to feed them the news?  Sigh.

    Keep in mind this "kid" you keep referring to was in a bit of trouble from time to time.  I think there is a point where the imprimatur of the term "kid" doesn't apply.  I think Trayvon reached that point.

     
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    Re: Zimmerman about to go on trial. Things look a little diffeent now.

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    I felt bad Rachel Jeantel

     

     

     




    I didn't, and neither should you.

     

     

     

    She is a witness, she has a role.  I think she did quite good as a witness, considering she's 19, illiterate, and a racist.  I think some people who say these qualities will endear her to the jury are largely correct.  This, despite her somewhat contradictory testimony.

     

     

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    Since when is reporting the facts casting stones?

     

    She can't read.  A letter was written for her, she was unable to read it.

    She doesn't think the word "cracker" in reference to white people is racist.  She USES IT ALL THE TIME. (her testimony).

    AND,  I think she did a good job as a witness, considering her age and those handicaps.

    So, get your head out of your bit and stop wishing for another O.J. trial.

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    I never said anything about the Zimmerman Trail ...... I never said anything about an O J Trail ......  you called her illiterate ... you called her a racist .... I didn't ..... all I said I felt bad for the girl ...... now get a grip on yourself and ease up ..... did you bother to ask me why I felt sorry for her ... no you didn't Mr N. Wit .... if you don't then shut your pie hole .. you little fraction of a human being ....

     
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    Re: Zimmerman about to go on trial. Things look a little diffeent now.

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    so, on one hand, you tell us about main stream media bias in the case. then, you provide us with main stream media articles to support your claim.. i don't think anyone under the age of 30 takes fox news seriously.

    and again, maybe martin was giving zimmerman a whooping. that doesn't prove he was the aggressor and started the fight. trayvon martin wasn't riding around following zimmerman, zimmerman was riding around following martin. zimmerman approached martin. common sense would say zimmerman is at fault for starting a confrontation. maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no.

     

     




    I know people under 30 don't take fox news seriously.  Why should they, when they have the Daily Show to feed them the news?  Sigh.

     

     

    Keep in mind this "kid" you keep referring to was in a bit of trouble from time to time.  I think there is a point where the imprimatur of the term "kid" doesn't apply.  I think Trayvon reached that point.

     

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    He was 17 yrs old. Yet you suggest that Rachel Jeantel being 19 might be too young to be a credible witness.

     

     

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    I suggested no such thing about the 19 year old witness.  As I stated several times, she was a good witness.  She is also apparently illiterate and a racist.

    Trayvon was adult enough to smoke dope and get kicked out of school.

     

     
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    Re: Zimmerman about to go on trial. Things look a little diffeent now.

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    so, on one hand, you tell us about main stream media bias in the case. then, you provide us with main stream media articles to support your claim.. i don't think anyone under the age of 30 takes fox news seriously.

    and again, maybe martin was giving zimmerman a whooping. that doesn't prove he was the aggressor and started the fight. trayvon martin wasn't riding around following zimmerman, zimmerman was riding around following martin. zimmerman approached martin. common sense would say zimmerman is at fault for starting a confrontation. maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no.

     

     

     




    I know people under 30 don't take fox news seriously.  Why should they, when they have the Daily Show to feed them the news?  Sigh.

     

     

     

    Keep in mind this "kid" you keep referring to was in a bit of trouble from time to time.  I think there is a point where the imprimatur of the term "kid" doesn't apply.  I think Trayvon reached that point.

     

     

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    He was 17 yrs old. Yet you suggest that Rachel Jeantel being 19 might be too young to be a credible witness.

     

     

     

     

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    jed,

     

    Good point! 

    Also, he talks about people under 30 as " they", as if they were another demographic. Kinda does not ring true. Seems many of us have put him in the same demo from his original avatar, etc. 

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    So, the standard is that someone else can bring up people under 30 not trusting fox, but when I bring it up, it is a problem?

     

    I thorugh we settled this intellectual honesty thing.  You and Jed might want to review your notes.

     
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    Re: Zimmerman about to go on trial. Things look a little diffeent now.

     

     Why did Trayvon never ask zimmerman why he was following him? If i was in trayvon's position that would have been the first question i would have asked zimmerman. But no, trayvon is/was nothing but a punk always looking for a fight and he got a bullet in the chest for being so macho. Like the saying goes, dont bring a knife to a gun fight. 

     

     

     

     

    At the end of your rope                                                                                                     

    Hanging by a thread

    He'd give anything for this to just go away

    This grip is only so strong

     

    I try to hold on tightly

    But it's all slipping through my fingers

    In a fleeting moment 

    Aspirations bled dry

    Eyes that once beamed with hope now only stare in remorse.

     

    -Times of grace

     
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    Zimmerman was an armed "want to be cop" with a history of violence living out a fantasy .... does that make him guilty .. no .. it makes him a strange person who was able to get an firearm  

     
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