Zimmerman about to go on trial. Things look a little diffeent now.

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    Walking in the rain isn't suspicious, it happens to people all the time who get caught outside with no umbrella.  And how does one judge "particular purpose"?  If someone is walking obviously their purpose is to get to some unknown destination. 

    And as was pointed out above, Zimmerman did not know Trayvon and had no reason to suspect he was up to no good (facts have determined he was simply walking home), Zimmerman engaged Trayvon after being advised not too, and as a result one of them ended up dead.  Zimmerman was from the recording of his call to 911 already of the mindset that something was off, and the only evidence he had to go was a kid in a hooded sweatshirt, was walking down the street.  If Zimmerman had left him alone, even if he watched him from a distance, none of this would be necessary and no one would be dead. 

     



    "In the rain between house".

     

    Assume all you said is true; 9-11 operators are not empowered to give orders to voluntary security personnel it says and if, and lets say Zimmerman made a bad decision to ask Trayvon what he was doing. does it justify Treyvon attacking him and did Zimmerman have a right to defend himself?

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    If walking in the rain between houses is suspicious for Martin, then it's suspicious for Zimmerman.  Doubly so because Zimmerman was following him.   Quadrupally so because Zimmerman was armed.  So if you are being followed by an armed, suspicious person, isn't attacking him considered "standing your ground"?

     
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    The prosecution is about to rest and and normally it would look like they proved their case at this point but, it doesnt. They better hope the defense somehow removes reasonable doubt. imho

     
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    George Zimmerman cracker - Elizabeth Warren minority George Zimmerman cracker – Elizabeth Warren minority

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    character assassination lol.. nothing to see here folks

     
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    This is the prosecutions STAR witness???

    They are going to ask the jury to put someone away for life based on her testimony??

    Give me a break they caught her in how many lies on the stand!??

     

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/george-zimmerman-witness-cantt-read-letter-wrote-shooting/story?id=19504826

     
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    I felt bad Rachel Jeantel

     
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    Zim accosted the kid.  The kid defended himself.  Then Zim pulled out his gun and shot him.

    zim had no right to stop the kid.  Anybody else in Trayvons situation would have reacted the same way.  Zim ignored the police dispatcher and as a result an innocent kid was killed.  

     
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    Sad thing is...you think you're being clever with that copy/paste...

     

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    It makes the point quite well.  Sorry you don't approve.

    Can't wait for you to snicker to Sistersledges next commie cartoon.

     
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    In a painfully embarrassing moment, Jeantel was forced to admit that she did not write a letter that was sent to Martin's mother describing what she allegedly heard on a phone call with Martin moments before he was shot. It came when West asked her to read the letter aloud in court.

    "Are you able to read that at all?" West asked.

    Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, "Some but not all. I don't read cursive."

    It sent a hush through the packed courtroom.

    She was unable to read any of the letter save for her name, date and the words "thank you."

     

    Practically a "try the glove on" moment, except the defense lawyer got it.

     

     

    "You don't know that he didn't take his fist and drive it into Zimmerman's face do you?" the lawyer pressed.

    ouch.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    That said, it still bears repeating that none of this had to happen if he didn't try to play cop!

    Neighborhood watches should be just that: Watches. 

    Not vigilantes.

     

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    I think you are stretching a bit.  You don't know he was acting as a vigilante.  Facts not in evidence, etc.

     
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    Zim accosted the kid.  The kid defended himself.  Then Zim pulled out his gun and shot him.

    zim had no right to stop the kid.  Anybody else in Trayvons situation would have reacted the same way.  Zim ignored the police dispatcher and as a result an innocent kid was killed.  


     

    So far, conjecture on your part.  Let's see how the facts play out.

     
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    I felt bad Rachel Jeantel




    I didn't, and neither should you.

    She is a witness, she has a role.  I think she did quite good as a witness, considering she's 19, illiterate, and a racist.  I think some people who say these qualities will endear her to the jury are largely correct.  This, despite her somewhat contradictory testimony.

     
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    I felt bad Rachel Jeantel

     




    I didn't, and neither should you.

     

    She is a witness, she has a role.  I think she did quite good as a witness, considering she's 19, illiterate, and a racist.  I think some people who say these qualities will endear her to the jury are largely correct.  This, despite her somewhat contradictory testimony.

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    John 8:7 ....

     
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    Its a media manufacturered crime. What a travesty.

    A combination of pressure through social media and poor journalism led to the trial of George Zimmerman, who is accused of second-degree murder in last year’s shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

    Immediately after the shooting in Sanford, Fla., which is 20 miles northeast of Orlando, the media described Mr. Zimmerman as white, setting up the racially divisive meme of a white man killing a black teenager — a characterization that proved to be wrong.

    A columnist for The New York Times described “the burden of black boys in America and the people that love them: running the risk of being descended upon in the dark and caught in the cross-hairs of someone who crosses the line.”

    The media then described Mr. Zimmerman as a “white Hispanic” after it was revealed that his father is white and his mother comes from Peru. Even now, many media outlets use this description: “Zimmerman, who identifies himself as Hispanic.”

    Under the definition of the U.S. Census Bureau, Mr. Zimmerman qualifies as Hispanic. Why do the media continue to emphasize this inaccurate racial theme? It’s probably because they think such sensationalism provides more readers and viewers. Instead it brings the media’s credibility into question.

    That’s not all. The press and supporters of Trayvon’s family maintained that Mr. Zimmerman had not been injured during the confrontation, placing in doubt his claim he was acting in self-defense because he said the youth had struck him and thrown him to the ground. Police photographs clearly showed Mr. Zimmerman had suffered injuries to his head, nose and eyes, which were consistent with a fight of some sort.

    The inaccuracies and poor reporting continued. The media described Trayvon as a good student. Subsequent information, however, showed he often got into fights, used marijuana and was suspended from school before he was shot — material the judge has restricted the defense from using. Further evidence indicated the teen had marijuana in his system at the time he was shot. Moreover, Trayvon’s purchases of watermelon-flavored fruit juice — not iced tea as reportedly frequently — and Skittles may not have been so innocent. These are two of three ingredients of Purple Drank, a concoction that also includes cough syrup he used to get high, according to his text messages.

    It gets worse: NBC News and MSNBC took the misinformation campaign to a new level by editing a call to police from Mr. Zimmerman to make it appear the defendant was racist. NBC apologized and fired some of those responsible for the deception, which is a clear violation of journalism ethics. (Full disclosure: I am an expert witness in a lawsuit by Mr. Zimmerman against NBC and MSNBC.) MSNBC’s Al Sharpton also became a leading advocate for Trayvon’s family — a role that would usually violate the network’s prohibition on personnel engaging in political activities. An MSNBC representative said Mr. Sharpton had received an exemption from the policy.

    The stories leading up to the trial still hype the racial issue. In a recent editorial, the South Florida Times said Sanford is “notorious for being biased against black males and … has a history of justice being warped in favor of white people.”

    The newspaper even argued that Mr. Zimmerman should be forced to prove he did not stalk the teenager to kill him. What a warped view of our legal system, where it has always been the government’s responsibility to prove a defendant has committed a crime.

    Fortunately, a jury will hear testimony and evidence about what happened on Feb. 26, 2012, so a verdict will be based on facts rather than the poor reporting that has appeared so far in much of the media.



    Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/26/harper-media-misreporting-rampant-in-trayvon-marti/#ixzz2XWAyT5Yg
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    yes, american media is bad. but that doesn't change the fact that zimmerman stalked, confronted, and the murdered a 17 year old unarmed kid.

     
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    yes, american media is bad. but that doesn't change the fact that zimmerman stalked, confronted, and the murdered a 17 year old unarmed kid.




    Stalked? Murdered?

    lol you are just as bad.

    The trial is indicating:

    Zimmerman was a peer respected volunteer community patrol. He sees a man in hoodie cutting between houses and calls police. He see's him again a short time later and a fights takes place he suffers a broken nose and has lacerations to the back of his head; the closest eye witness states that Trayvon had Zimmerman on the ground and was punching him MMA style; Zimmermans back is wet with grass stains, Trayvons knees are wet with grass stains.

    hummmmmm

    Im not saying Zimmerman/Trayvon was right or wrong but, following or even asking someone a question is not a crime nor does it warrant being attacked or prove who was the aggressor

    It doesnt help that the prosecutions "star witness" committed perjury.

     

     
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    yes, american media is bad. but that doesn't change the fact that zimmerman stalked, confronted, and the murdered a 17 year old unarmed kid.

     




    Stalked? Murdered?

     

    lol you are just as bad.

    The trial is indicating:

    Zimmerman was a peer respected volunteer community patrol. He sees a man in hoodie cutting between houses and calls police. He see's him again a short time later and a fights takes place he suffers a broken nose and has lacerations to the back of his head; the closest eye witness states that Trayvon had Zimmerman on the ground and was punching him MMA style; Zimmermans back is wet with grass stains, Trayvons knees are wet with grass stains.

    hummmmmm

    Im not saying Zimmerman/Trayvon was right or wrong but, following or even asking someone a question is not a crime nor does it warrant being attacked or prove who was the aggressor

    It doesnt help that the prosecutions "star witness" committed perjury.

     

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    the kid whooping zimmerman, a grown man, also doesn't prove who attacked who. but we do know that zimmerman was following/stalking him and he confronted the kid, not the other way around. either way when you bring a gun to a fist fight and pull the trigger ending someone, especially a minor's life, that is murder to me. i'm not a judge or part of the jury and that's my opinion. the guy was looking for trouble and he found it.

     
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    A resident of the Florida community where George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin last year after a confrontation took the stand Friday and described going out to investigate a noise and seeing one person straddling another with and throwing punches thrown down "MMA-style" the person on the ground.

    John Good said he was watching TV with his wife when they heard a noise and he went out to investigate, despite his wife warning him not to. At first, he thought a dog might be attacking someone, but as he moved closer, he said he observed what looked like "a tussle" between two people.

    "It looked like a tussle," Good said. "I could only see one person. At one point, I yelled out, 'What's going on? Stop it,' I believe," Good said.

    Under questioning by prosecutors, the neighborhood watch volunteer charged with second-degree murder, Good said one of the combatants was straddling a man lying face up on the pavement, and throwing punches. The testimony appeared to corroborate Zimmerman's claims that he shot the 17-year-old African-American with a legally registered gun in self defense, as he was being pummeled.

    "I could tell that the person on the bottom had a lighter skin color," testified Good, who also said the person on the bottom appeared to be wearing "white or red," while the one on top wore dark clothing. That also would corroborate Zimmerman's claims he was on the losing end of a violent confrontation when he fired the fatal shot.

    But Good said he did not see the person on top slam the other one's head into the pavement. Zimmerman had wounds to his scalp following the confrontation.

    Good, who was calling 911 when he heard a gunshot, listened as an audio recording of his call was played in the courtroom.

    "It looks like there's a black guy down and he's dead," Good said on the call.

    During cross examination, defense attorney Mark O'Mara asked Good to be more specific as to the exact positions of the two men on the ground and even demonstrated in the courtroom asking for visual confirmation. He also asked what Good meant on the 911 call when he said the person on top was engaged in a MMA-style move of "ground and pound". The witness also said during testimony that the person on the bottom was unable to move under a flurry of punches.

    The testimony came as Zimmerman’s murder trial entered its fifth day Friday, a day after the former neighborhood watch volunteer's attorney tried to demonstrate that the woman who was on the phone with Trayvon Martin shortly before he was fatally shot was not believable because her story changed over the course of the last year.



    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/06/28/zimmerman-defense-grills-witness-for-second-day/#ixzz2XWTs4x23

     
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    so, on one hand, you tell us about main stream media bias in the case. then, you provide us with main stream media articles to support your claim.. i don't think anyone under the age of 30 takes fox news seriously.

    and again, maybe martin was giving zimmerman a whooping. that doesn't prove he was the aggressor and started the fight. trayvon martin wasn't riding around following zimmerman, zimmerman was riding around following martin. zimmerman approached martin. common sense would say zimmerman is at fault for starting a confrontation. maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no.

     
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     "maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no."

    So if Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman, viciously beating his head against the pavement and also breaking his nose, then Zimmerman has no right to pull his weapon to save his own life?

    You clearly have already made your mind up, that it was a racist act against an innocent kid, it fits your predetermined template.

     
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     "maybe that confrontation led to zimmerman getting beat up by a 17 year old kid? does that give him the right to murder the kid? no."

    So if Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman, viciously beating his head against the pavement and also breaking his nose, then Zimmerman has no right to pull his weapon to save his own life?

    You clearly have already made your mind up, that it was a racist act against an innocent kid, it fits your predetermined template.



    if you start a fight, losing doesn't give you the right to pull out a gun. the confrontation was initiated by zimmerman. and for your information, yes, my mind is made up. i'm not watching the trial and i honestly don't care, it's just my opinion. we know zimmerman was following martin, we know that zimmerman approached martin and confronted him. if a strange guy with a gun is following me around asking me questions and invading my personal space i would punch him in the face too. 

     
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    I felt bad Rachel Jeantel

     

     




    I didn't, and neither should you.

     

     

    She is a witness, she has a role.  I think she did quite good as a witness, considering she's 19, illiterate, and a racist.  I think some people who say these qualities will endear her to the jury are largely correct.  This, despite her somewhat contradictory testimony.

     

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    John 8:7 ....

     

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    Since when is reporting the facts casting stones?

    She can't read.  A letter was written for her, she was unable to read it.

    She doesn't think the word "cracker" in reference to white people is racist.  She USES IT ALL THE TIME. (her testimony).

    AND,  I think she did a good job as a witness, considering her age and those handicaps.

    So, get your head out of your bit and stop wishing for another O.J. trial.

     
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    yes, american media is bad. but that doesn't change the fact that zimmerman stalked, confronted, and the murdered a 17 year old unarmed kid.




    How do you know that?  Were you there?

     

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