Brave Strong Israeli Men abuse children in public

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    Brave Strong Israeli Men abuse children in public

    http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2011/12/25/israeli_tv_crew_attacked_in_ultra_orthodox_city/

    These folk are out of control. Why spit at a child, and scare them out on a public street. What part of religion says to abuse and harass children. Any religion.
     
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    Topaz, Little girls are raped by militia members in Congo. Immigrant girls from South Asia are murdered in London by male family members for dating. Female fetuses are aborted in huge numbers in East Asia because of a preference for sons. And you obsess daily on events in Israel. Perhaps you should reflect upon your unhealthy obsession.
     
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    Hey I go around the world. Guess you do not read my posts to Appdev or Bopope. I have a healthy diversity. Unlike some "religious" idiots in Iran, Israel, Iowa, Just  the "i" parts. I can go anywhere any time it is all part of a history and sociology. BTW these jewish fanatics have a group in New York doing the same thing. Just in case you did not already know. It was in the BOGLOBE 3 weeks ago, if you read it.
     
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    JERUSALEM—Thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews are protesting in Jerusalem to defend their contentious effort to ban the mixing of the sexes on buses, sidewalks and other public spaces.

    These practices are rejected by mainstream Judaism and efforts by a minority group to impose its lifestyle on others has provoked anger among secular Israelis and among the wider ultra-Orthodox community.

    In one city near Jerusalem, radical ultra-Orthodox recently accosted school girls and spit at women and children they believe are dressed immodestly. That prompted a large protest rally.

     

    But are they arrested for assault, charged and convicted. Not so much. Because the Ultra orthodox control the civil courts and ministries. It is impossible to have a mixed religion marriage recognized in israel. They just refuse it.

     
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    [QUOTE].... Because the Ultra orthodox control the civil courts and ministries. It is impossible to have a mixed religion marriage recognized in israel. They just refuse it.
    Posted by topaz978[/QUOTE]

    Oh c'mon, that can't be true. Besides if that were true then that would also mean that some mixed race marriages were also not recognised. It isn't the deep south USA there. Or what about if a Jew marries an atheist? That OK?
    This is the 21st century, isn't it?
    When will governments learn to ban any religious influence? Only leads to trouble. 

     
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    Well if that was not bad enough. The religious administrator gets to decide if you are properly jewish to be a citizen in the "homeland". Apparently the "homeland" needs to be PURE.
     HMM. That has a familiar tone(1934). It is maybe not that bad they just need 4 generations of family tree and the rabbinical records and then usually you are "pure".
     My post was about Ultra orthodox jews abusing children on the streets. This apparently is a major religious point for the men to abuse 10-13 year old girls. By the way it is happening in the US as well.
     It is an amazing world when god inspires such devotion in big strong men, as to abuse small children for the clothes that they wear or what side of the street they walk on, or the public bus that they happen to get on.
     
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    [QUOTE]Topaz, Little girls are raped by militia members in Congo. Immigrant girls from South Asia are murdered in London by male family members for dating. Female fetuses are aborted in huge numbers in East Asia because of a preference for sons. And you obsess daily on events in Israel. Perhaps you should reflect upon your unhealthy obsession.
    Posted by Ozark[/QUOTE]


    It is not my obession merely the report of the obession of others. Move along now, have a nice day.
     
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    A future majority?

    We have haredi communities in our town, where nothing of the sort has ever happened, so something is different in the news article picked up. One can get another look at the situation in Beit Shemesh from the original article last month by Yaakov Lappin in Jerusalem Post. [ 'We won't leave,' vows Beit Shemesh mother, December 26, 2011, at http://www.jpost.com/Features/InThespotlight/Article.aspx?id=250917 ]

    Writing recently in Haaretz, Amir Oren mentions some aspects of haredim in Israel probably not so much known outside the country, except perhaps for the political infuence of Shas, which represents interests of many of those who are mizrahi. [ Haredi minority is ruining the majority's life, January 8, 2012, at http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/israel-s-haredi-minority-is-ruining-the-majority-s-life-1.406053 ]

    What he does not mention there is the 12 sizable sects of haredim in Israel, a couple passionately Zionist and several anti-Zionist, differing quite a bit in other ways too, except that all tend to have large families. Five to ten children are not unusual. As a result, they currently number about a tenth of the Jewish population. If their numbers continue to grow as they have in recent years, in 50 years they will become the majority.

     
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    Yes it is a strange movement. Jews around the world are not too happy about the press. It is not a jewish thing it is a thing that odd jews do. Much like certain islamists, christians, and moromons.
     What puzzles me is why abuse small children? What is that about. Before age 12 girls are not even counted as religious much like muslim society. Women in jewish culture are not required to learn jewish law. So I geuss they harrass the girls to make the man of the house force the girls to do what the religious minority wants. That is the way in isreal. Minor administrators are religious so reform jews cannot be Isreali, they do not meet the standard. As a christian married to a jew I'm lucky to get a resident passport in this stupid country.
     
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    Another world

    Yes it is repulsive and strange, but we are probably not going to grasp very much. Haredim in our community are scholarly people, maintaining a couple of notable schools and insisting just as strongly on education for girls as for boys.

    They don't help us understand what goes on in Israel. One thing clear is the many differing communities of haredim--only a few with these issues. If you visit the link to Jerusalem Post, you will also see a pattern not so much abuse against children as against girls and women for "immodesty."

    Much the same pattern can be seen in parts of Iran, Agfhanistan and Pakistan, where it is often the ghulat or "batiniyya" Muslim sects, as orthodox Muslims may call them, harassing girls and women to wear full face veils or burqas. There are many fewer reports.

    Israel is a more developed country, with much more reportage reaching us, some originating in English and much of that fairly uninhibited. Visit Dawn in Karachi to seek out news from Pakistan, but you will find it far more circumspect. There a "faithless" reporter is apt to be a target of bullets rather than stones.

     
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    It is not only in Israel, and these are not 'scholars'. These are abusers who happen to be religious. Their own rabbi disown their actions. Appdev dont try to cover this as cultural misunderstanding. THIS IS CHILD ABUSE. In this country it is happening as well. So what "cultural" aspect will you put on that? As to the issues with other religions it is that fear and instability or lack of true faith has caused a lack of true moral value. The values of harmony and peace.
     

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