Re: Israel authorizes illegal settlers to shoot palestinians
posted at 9/10/2011 9:36 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Israel authorizes illegal settlers to shoot palestinians
[QUOTE]Topaz, I like you but you're kind of off base here. #1 Settlers don't just go target practice shooting on people. Its a tenuous situation and stoking the fire is sort of frowned upon. #2 The PA is autonomous. If there's a law about carrying weapons then, well what's the point? #3 Settlers do not shoot Palestinians all the time. Has it happened? Probably. #4 Not sure what comparison you're trying to make about guns in SA in the 80s. #5 The PA cannot police settlers anymore than Mexican police can police you. #6 The PA would not try so I'm not sure why you'd make reference to police cars being bombed. Its an ugly situation but lets not lose sight of the fact that the country these people used to live in declared war on another country, lost, and then abandoned them. Eventually they were given the opportunity to have their own recognized country and their mafia leadership everyone was so interested to legitimize declined because it would mean giving up their power.
Posted by movingtarget3[/QUOTE]
#1 Yes settlers do kill unarmed people in the territory, the military refused to prosecute them and the PA is not allowed to arrest them. (yes israel will bomb the PA officers, it continues to happen)
#2 The PA is autonomous but lacks the ability due to israeli action to launch a defense of its airspace against a forien country(israel). So the autonomy is quite limited. Again if the PA decides that all weapons are banned and extends that to illegal settlers they get bombed(exactly this has happened)
#3 Settlers cannot be caught shooting palestinians because the Israeli military will not arrest them. PA authorities arresting settlers will be shot by the Israeli military(this does happen all the time)
#4 In south africa a black confronting a white was killed or beaten to death about 70% of the time. Thats why so few court trials were even called and why south africa got several un sanctions based on human rights abuse. Israel has had the us block about 100 such well documented cases in the last ten years.
#5 Exactly my point. The threat of military actions prevents the police of the PA from protecting PA territory(this includes the illegal settlements).
#6 Actually the Israelis use 250lb guided missles to kill cars in the streets. This is well documented in the media. Problem is that the use of military hardware in civilian zones is prohibited but the US still backs up these human rights violations. Why is this a human rights violation you might ask? Because high explosive is not exact. The civilian death and injury toll gets Israel the Buchanwald prize for pointless death and suffering. Not to mention the target gets no chance of a trial and evidence hearing after his death.
Actually palestine was occupied forcibly by soon to be Israelis. Palestine never needed a war declaration since palestine was not attacked by another country. Just terrorists who took over large areas and imposed their own laws. I'm thinking Taliban, but just my 2c.