Syria: thrown to lions?

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    Syria: thrown to lions?

    On Tuesday of the past week, the Arab League "extended" its useless mission in Syria by another month. Only four days later, after several reports of armed attacks on civilians and insurgent attacks on Syrian forces, the Arab League is leaving. [ Jim Muir, Arab League suspends Syria mission, BBC (UK), January 28, 2012, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16774171 ]

    Only in Arab parts of the Near East and Middle East does one still find such a collection of countries run by royalty and dictators, comparable to tin-horn dictators in tropical Africa.

     
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    U.N. pulls back

    The United Nations joins the Arab League in giving up on Syria. [ Dominic Evans, Nicholas Vinocur, Matt Spetalnick and Louis Charbonneau, U.N. suspends Syria monitoring as violence rages, Reuters, June 16, 2012, at http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/16/us-syria-crisis-idUSBRE85D0IS20120616 ]

    U.N. efforts were not a public relations token like those of the Arab League but proved no more effective, as their observers were attacked by both insurgents and forces armed by Assad's government. The logjam caused by unsubtle support for Assad from Russia may be coming unglued, but all parties are currently denying their intentions. [ Ship carrying attack helicopters to Syria, halted off Scotland, heads back to Russia,  BBC (UK), June 19, 2012, at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-18503421 ]

     
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    Re: Syria: thrown to lions?

    Well thats a point. But in order to get paid the contractor needs to deliver the repaired equipment. This is not a new equipment order. So a (shm*uck) who has a contract and helicopters, spent money fixing them and is not only out of luck but has people actively trying to prevent him being paid. Not all buisness in russia gets a paycheck from the state. This just depresses the buisnesses in russia that need money to pay their workers, and pay their investors. As a state Syria has every right to this equipment. And to use it as they see fit. Why seek an oportunity to attack or hurt Syria?
    Ah now that is politics and not humanitarian at that. Numerous attacks in Lebanon and northern Israel are the reasons, on top of territorial disputes. The bombing of the US marine barracks in Beruit still has not been paid for. So in the real politik we are seeking revenge, Russia is supporting an ally, even though they do not need them much. But it is bad for your other allies to see you back down. The situation is NOT about facts, or murder, It is about how you are percieved by others. So a bunch of folk get to die. THATS REAL POLITIK.
     
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    Rats leave the ship

    Syria's "leaders" are heading for the exits, now including the country's most recently designated prime minister and his immediate family. While a few cynical and disaffected readers like the previous one adopt fairy tales about sovereign countries, reasonable people easily see that the current regime of Bashar al-Assad has become a dysfunctional government, attacking the country's own people like the regime of Muammar al-Qadhafi did in Libya until it was overthrown and al-Qadhafi was killed. [ Zeina Karam and Jamal Halaby, Associated Press, Syrian prime minister defects to Jordan, Boston Globe, August 6, 2012, at http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2012/08/06/syria_bomb_blast_in_state_tv_building_in_damascus/ ]

    Civilians with high posts in the al-Assad regime are "leaders" in name only, drafted into posts simply to lend an impression that there is a functioning government. Chris Chivers, the reporter who most accurately predicted the demise of the al-Qadhafi regime, recently showed how the al-Assad regime's primary weapons are collapsing. Insurgent forces have been deploying missile systems, aimed at neutralizing the regime's most effective weapons: its 36 Mi-25 attack helicopters, about half of them already disabled. [ Christopher J. Chivers, Syrian leader's arms under strain as conflict continues, New York Times, August 3, 2012, at http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/world/middleeast/as-conflict-continues-in-syria-assads-arms-face-strain.html ]

     
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    Re: Syria: thrown to lions?

    America should intervene in this conflict and then put one of their puppets in Assad's position. This way the US can continue with the trends we have seen in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and numerous others throughout the 20 and 21st centuries. As we have seen in the aforemnetioned sitautions these have paid tremendous dividends for AMERICAN interests.  
     
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    America?

    It's not clear how America could intervene, since there are 47 countries to consider--from Canada and Mexico through Guatemala, Jamaica, Panama and Venezuela to Brazil, Argentina and Chile. When the U.S. intervened in Libya and Afghanistan it took along other countries in NATO but only Canada from America.
     
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    In what way is the US truely constrained  from action? The action would be a simple movement of air resources to turkey or israel. Simple easy and not an issue with the host country. I believe that a warthog group with f16 support for air anti radar dominance plus a single ac130. That would be about 38 aircraft based in a friendly base. No ground artillery could deal with this. Tanks and apcs are killed since we know the ir sigs and can kill them on a dark and stormy night with warthogs. We are in a game of force and power. Thats what we do. The locals want to be in control and we can do that. But we can also do the full no armor and no aircraft thing, EASY.
     
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    Re: Syria: thrown to lions?

    In response to "Re: Syria: thrown to lions?":
    In what way is the US truely constrained  from action? The action would be a simple movement of air resources to turkey or israel. Simple easy and not an issue with the host country. I believe that a warthog group with f16 support for air anti radar dominance plus a single ac130. That would be about 38 aircraft based in a friendly base. No ground artillery could deal with this. Tanks and apcs are killed since we know the ir sigs and can kill them on a dark and stormy night with warthogs. We are in a game of force and power. Thats what we do. The locals want to be in control and we can do that. But we can also do the full no armor and no aircraft thing, EASY. Posted by topaz978
    You want the US to launch attacks against an Muslims from Israel? That should Immediately increase support for Syria, not mention violate ceasefire agreements between Israel and Syria. Turkey would let us launch attacks into Iraq from Turkish soil, and you expect it to let us launch attacks into Syria? How about this? We let the Syria people fight for their freedom.
     
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    "No-fly zone" over Syria?

    Leaders of the Syrian insurgency have called for international forces to enforce a "no-fly zone" over Syria as they did over Libya last year. That provided a critical element in defeating the murderous al-Qadhafi regime. [ Bassem Mroue, Associated Press, Syrian opposition leader calls for no-fly zone, Boston Globe, August 13, 2012, at http://www.boston.com/news/world/middle-east/2012/08/13/syrian-opposition-leader-calls-for-fly-zone/COCeHN97nXemrs83tnH08J/story.html ]

    Readers may recall that U.S. and U.N. leaders at first refused to be involved with Libya. Secretary General Anders Rasmussen of NATO said his organization would not become involved without U.N. authorization. [ Karen DeYoung and Colum Lynch, U.S. ratchets up pressure on al-Qadhafi, Washington Post, February 26, 2011, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/25/AR2011022506944.html ]

    Failures of the mission mounted by the Arab League and the effort headed by former Secretary General Kofi Annan for the U.N. show that the regime of Bashar al-Assad opposes any peaceful settlement of the conflict. Bashar al-Assad has escalated attacks to the level reached in 1982 by Hafez al-Assad, his father and predecessor, with the Hama massacre, killing many thousands of unarmed residents. [John Kifner, Syria said to raze part of rebel city in Syria, New York Times, February 21, 1982] [ In 1982, Syria's president Hafez al-Assad crushes rebellion in Hama, retrospective, Manchester Guardian (UK), August 1, 2011, at http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/from-the-archive-blog/2011/aug/01/hama-syria-massacre-1982-archive ]

    While the 1982 massacre ended 40 years of insurgency by Sunni Muslims against a government organized by Alawites, the repeated assaults this year and last have only strengthened the resolve of today's insurgents, who come from many backgrounds and regions, including the Hama district. [ Khaled Yacoub Oweis, Reuters, Syrian government lifts state of emergency, Yahoo News, April 19, 2011, at http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110419/wl_nm/us_syria ]

     
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    China treats Syria to state visit

    According to an AP story so far ignored by the Globe, China is treating an envoy from Syria to an official state visit. European news media report Bouthaina Shaaban, a low-ranking "special political and media adviser," meeting with the foreign minister of China, Yang Jiechi. [ Unattributed, Associated Press, China blames West for U.N. discord on Syrian conflict, ABC News, August 15, 2012, at http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-blames-west-discord-syrian-war-17007682 ] [ Alfred Joyner, Al-Assad envoy tries to enhance ties with China, International Business Times (UK), August 14, 2012, at http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/373595/20120814/syria-assad-china-envoy-bouthaina-shaaban-yang.htm ]

    As Russia loses confidence in the crumbling regime of Bashar al-Assad, China remains the main resistance to action in the U.N. Security Council. Readers may remember that China was similarly compromised against the murderous former regime of Muammar al-Qadhafi in Libya. Secretly, even after China approved U.N. sanctions, Chinese firms were buying oil from and selling weapons to al-Qadhafi. [ Graeme Smith, China offered Qadhafi huge stockpiles of arms, Toronto Globe and Mail (Canada), September 2, 2011, at http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/china-offered-gadhafi-huge-stockpiles-of-arms-libyan-memos/article1363316/ ]

     
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    Foreign intervention in Syria

    After Syrian insurgents and the U.S. rejected French president Hollande's call for a new Syrian government, Turkey appears to be pressing its program for a "buffer zone" inside Syria, near the border with Turkey. Its interest, of course, is hardly altruism but restraining increasing numbers of Syrians crossing the border. [ Unattributed, Associated Press, Turkey to press for safe zone in Syria, Boston Globe, August 29, 2012, at http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/2012/08/29/turkey-press-for-safe-zone-syria/vT3N753qao0hQHbAP4vd9H/story.html ]
     
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