Will U.S. troops leave Afghanistan?

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    Will U.S. troops leave Afghanistan?

    The NY Times reported that troops have been packing some of the mountains of equipment sent to Afghanistan for return to the States. Pres. Obama says we'll be out by the end of 2014, and after that the U.S. and Afghanistan will be "equal partners." It sounds like a partnership between a shark and a herring. [ Graham Bowley, U.S. begins packing its war gear in Afghanistan for the movers, New York Times, August 4, 2012, at http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/04/world/asia/in-afghanistan-us-packs-war-gear-for-the-movers.html ]

    Globe management care little or nothing for news about Afghanistan. For years interested readers have been going elsewhere. There they have learned that 2014 will be a year of lame ducks. If re-elected, Pres. Obama will be on the way to the door. Afghanistan is supposed to hold a presidential election that year, and its current president, Harmid Karzai, has already signed out. The NATO partners of the U.S. will probably all be gone, but according to news reports, the U.S. will still maintain a "modest force" no matter what. [ Ewen MacAskill, Obama and Karzai outline post-2014 Afghanistan vision, Manchester Guardian (UK), May 12, 2012, at http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/20/obama-karzai-afghanistan-nato ]

    What might a "modest force" mean? No one, least of all Pres. Obama, wants to say. The always arrogant, usually vacuous, former Gov. Romney extracted his foot from his mouth long enough to say, "As president, my goal in Afghanistan will be to complete a successful transition to Afghan security forces by the end of 2014." [ Spencer Ackerman, Mitt agrees with Obama on Afghanistan, Egypt and maybe Iran, Wired, July 24, 2012, at http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/07/romney-foreign-policy-vfw/ ]

    Meanwhile, the White House says that 33,000 "surge troops" will leave by the end of summer, 2012. Why now? For what real purpose were they sent? What did they accomplish? Will U.S troops ever leave Afghanistan for good? From the White House: nothing but silence. The LA Times reported last year that "military officials worry that an expedited departure will encourage Taliban leaders simply to bide their time...." [ David S. Cloud and Christi Parsons, Obama orders rapid drawdown of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, Los Angeles Times, June 23, 2011, at http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jun/23/world/la-fg-obama-afghanistan-20110623 ]

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    Why should all forces leave? I mean this country does produce huge amounts of heroin. And many people have their farms there designed for this. In no small part this is because perishable crops cannot get to market due to the poor roads. What idea is behind the notion behind the pulling out of troops. Letting Islamist militants rebuild the facilities they have there? The taliban is a pakistani joke. They are just the tools of pakistan. Pakistan sees a lot of money from the drug trade. Why else would any country abide the "semi autonomous regions" No real state would abide anything like this. The state of pakistan is and has been a joke. If they do not control their territorry then that part is not pakistan and we can do what is needed includeing a full military force.
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    Is that you, Elmer?

    Ms. Magoo must have cribbed the previous from Ken Kesey. It's a riotous mix of xenophobia, paranoia, jingoism and myopia. Could have come from Waco, TX, fits the mold.
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    Afghanis said to eject Taliban

    The NY Times reports popular revolts against Afghan Taliban in two southeastern provinces. Its reporters say largely Pashtuni villagers in Ghazni and Laghman have driven out largely Pashtuni Taliban at gunpoint, It is always difficult to know whether any of the NY Times foreign reporting can be trusted. Editors clearly order up stories to support some political line, and ambitious reporters like Judith Miller have often been eager to manufacture news. [ Alissa J. Rubin and Matthew Rosenberg, Ragtag revolts in parts of Afghanistan repel Taliban, New York Times, August 25, 2012, at http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/world/asia/ragtag-revolts-in-parts-of-afghanistan-repel-taliban.html ]
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    Re: Will U.S. troops leave Afghanistan?

    The issue is security. If there is a lack of random people shakeing down the locals for things like planting poppies, then food is always a popular option to no money and no food. If the roads are safe and quick then having a market of goods to sell to is an option.
    As to cleaning up reporting to politics then just choose other sources DUH.
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    True to form

    Well, if nothing else, Ms. Magoo proves true to form--looking at Afghans, of whom she apparently has never met even one, just like Mrs. McGinty down the block. As a news reader would know--and maybe even Mrs. McGinty, although not Ms. Magoo--there might be no other source of news (written in English) than the NY Times. That's why its reporters sometimes get away with murder, journalistically speaking. There would not likely be any "back to school" for someone as myopic as Ms. Magoo, who already went to school but didn't seem to learn much there or anywhere else.

    Meanwhile Pakistani Taliban, with their own rigid religious agendas to pursue, continue to extract their tolls against Pakistan's government and people. Lashkar-e-Islam, forced out of Swat last year--where it was a minor player in helping to destroy 400 public schools--has taken up residence near Peshawar and continues its mission of oppressing and killing local residents--in the name of a Higher God. [ Rina Saeed Khan, Pakistan rebuilds its education network after Taliban are driven out of Swat, Manchester Guardian (UK), June 26, 2012, at http://www.guardian.co.uk/global-development/2012/jun/26/pakistan-education-swat-valley-taliban ] [ Agence France Presse, Mortar bombs kill six in Pakistan, Yahoo News, August 25, 2012, at http://news.yahoo.com/mortar-bombs-kill-six-pakistan-191213156.html?_esi=1 ]