semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

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    semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    hi all - i think i remember that there are a number of joggers/runners on these boards, so maybe you can post your opinions on my situation.  i'm anxious to jog again, but when i tried in december (2 months post-partum and about... 55 lbs heavier than normal - darn you, 85-lb-pregnancy!) it totally wrecked my knees (which seems pretty obvious now looking back, but i was just so desperate to move again).  so, since then i've been doing the elliptical only, and i have been thinking i should wait to jog again until i am less overweight compared to my normal weight.  so the question is - at what point should i start again?  my normal weight averaged around 155 (sometimes a little less), and i'm probably in the high 190s now.  do you think 170 would be safe for the knees?  180?  i don't have the time or drive to embark on a knee-strength training mission to speed up the process, so just wondering how much extra weight you think one's knees could withstand...  tia!
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    Jogging puts much more strain on those supportive tissues than the elliptical so I'd suggest doing strength moves for your lower body to not only strengthen your muscles but also condition the tendons and ligaments in your knees before you give jogging a whirl.  That way, if you have an unusual amount of pain you'll have a good idea that it's not from underuse.  Once you've gotten yourself in good strength shape ease back into jogging and rate your knee pain on a scale from 1 - 10 that day and 2 days after each jog/run.  Keep a journal and record pain levels days 0 -2 until it becomes apparent whether you should lose more weight before continuing or you're good to go.  
     
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    I think this is something you should ask your doctor. IT's going to depend on your frame.

    My joints are shot at 38, despite weighing less than 120.  What works for me [b/c I can't run anymore, no way, no how], is using a step and free weights. You can get an enormously good cardio workout w/ a step, varying the height, and doing step ups while holding a free weight or medicine ball.  After about 2 minutes of doing it, you will be huffing and puffing like you are jogging.  I acutally get a better cardio workout doing this than I ever did from jogging.

    Jumping rope is also another option that gets you a good plyo workout, but isn't nearly as hard on the knees.  Also squat jumps are fantastic [even though I am no longer allowed to actually jump and achieve air]. 

    Good luck!
     
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    I second what Alf said about alternative cardio.  I started riding a bike and I find it a better cardio workout than running (and it really seemed to help tone my lower stomach).  If you really want to run, you may try running on a track if there is a school nearby.  When I started having knee issues from running, I stopped running on the pavement and switched to the track.   
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    Try jogging on a treadmill that way you can walk part of it and jog some of it.  Your heart rate will be monitored the whole way.
     
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    Like CT said, maybe go to a specialist running/shoe store (Marathon Sports are good) and get refitted for running shoes... we all know how much pregnancy can change your feet, both during and after.   I used to have wicked bad knees, but they felt so much better running and working out once I got correctly fitting shoes that prevented by ankles/knees from rolling in.

    As others suggested, maybe try also getting your cardio levels up - swimming is a great idea (if there is an indoor pool nearby!).  If you are concerned about your knees, avoid anything that involves jumping or hitting a surface hard (I have found that I still can't do anything involving Step, it is just not knee friendly!).

    Running on the roads is also easier on the knees than running on the sidewalk (asphalt has more give than concrete), running on grass is good, running on sand can also be excellent.  someone above mentioned running on a track, if you go this option, make sure it is one with wide bends, tight bends can also play havoc on knees and joints.

    Unfortunately there will be no one answer as to when you wil be able to start running any longer distances again - there are many more factors than just how much excess weight you are carrying (in fact, some of the best runners I know, and I know plenty, can run sub 3 hour marathons but still carry excess weight).  Try starting slowly and build up your endurance.
     
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    In Response to Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight":
    You also may consider going to a running store and having your stride/feet evaluated and fitted for proper shoes. I have very neutral feet and stride, but the right shoes make a tremendous difference, for me, between injury-laden and injury-free running.
    Posted by CTMum


    If you go this route (good idea, imo, too) go to Marathon Sports.  They are experts - very helpful, pleasant, and non-threatening.
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    I will second Prill's comment ... if you do head to a track ... make sure the bends are nice and wide.  I exacerbated a knee issue by running on a short track.  Not fun.
     
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    Another good thing to note about Marathon Sports: if you have Harvard Pilgrim, show your card to get 15% off.
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    As everyone else has said, go get checked out and get proper shoes.  At a higher weight your shoes will wear out faster and that could easily cause knee issues.  Once you have the proper shoes, you should be able to ease back into running by following the couch to 5k plan (google it!).  It goes through a mix of running and walking intervals which will make you feel confident as it starts out very slowly and builds on the program to full running.  Also, make sure that when you do start running again that you run slower than what you think you should be doing.  You can work on speed later.

    If you can do any squats or lunges (properly) that can help to build muscle around your knees to help support them.  I don't know if you will be pushing a stroller at all, but if you are, make sure that you have a good running stroller as well.  

    Good luck!!!
     
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    They've shown conclusively, too, that interval training makes the same amount of time spent working out even more effective for weight loss, too.  What a BONUS!
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    thanks all.  i'm soooooooooo depressed - i've lost ZERO lbs since DECEMBER - how depressing.  :(  so maybe this means i need to motivate to get going on jogging again - the best exercise IMHO!  :)
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    I did an interval workout on the elliptical, one that I modified from a Shape magazine workout for jogging.  I lost inches and lbs in that month, and I did it twice (not in a row).  I think I can remember it if you want me to post it. 

    Jogging might be your favorite, but it is he11 on your knees and other joints as well as your spinal disks.
     
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    http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134861448/put-those-shoes-on-running-wont-kill-your-knees

    There's a new study on everything out there!
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    I don't have a lot of different advice, but I can totally and literally feel your pain.  Jogging is just so easy - you can do it anywhere with a pair of sneeks and it's great to get outside!

    But pregnancy has done me in also :(  For me it was foot issues, which looks like they may require surgery (and 8 weeks off my feet!) to repair, which is not worth it to me at the moment.  So I wear frumpy sensible shoes, and walk!  I am of similar weight, and even when I was in tip top shape before kids 155 was my lowest, currently more like 175.  I did have knee problems in the past from running and worked with an physiotherpist, which helped a lot.  For me, muscles on the inside of my legs were pulling my knee one way or the other (forget the details now....) but it is pretty common for women with wider hips (me, not you, we've never met!) and for me, extra weight made it worse.  Anyway, might be another avenue for you.

    Also, I lost all but 5 lbs of the baby weight with #1 just by walking.  I walked almost every day for about an hour, pushing the stroller... hard to imagine with the freakin' snow out there today...

    Good luck, we're all pulling for you!

    S

     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    I had huge success with this Shape workout - I'll post just in case anyone wants it.  On the elliptical (the first time I did the month of workouts), I changed difficulty by increasing resistance and speed.  On the treadmill (the second time), I changed difficulty by increasing the speed and incline.  I got noticeable and comparable results on both machines.

    Do each week's workout 4 times a week for a total of 16 workouts of 50 minutes each for the month.  Your perception of Moderate and Difficult is relative, but my "moderate" was what I was doing my whole non-interval workout, and my "difficult" really made me huff and puff.

    Week 1

    Warm up - Easy - 5 minutes
    Moderate - 7 minutes, Difficult - 3 minutes (repeat pair 4 times)
    Cool down - Easy - 5 minutes

    Week 2

    Warm up - Easy - 5 minutes
    Moderate - 5 minutes, Difficult - 5 minutes (repeat pair 4 times)
    Cool down - Easy - 5 minutes

    Week 3

    Warm up - Easy - 5 minutes
    Moderate - 4 minutes, Difficult - 6 minutes (repeat pair 4 times)
    Cool down - Easy - 5 minutes

    Week 4

    Warm up - Easy - 5 minutes
    Moderate - 3 minutes, Difficult - 7 minutes (repeat pair 4 times)
    Cool down - Easy - 5 minutes
     
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    Re: semi-OT: jogging/running and "baby weight"

    That study also indicates that jogging is not necessarily safe if you've suffered a prior injury or are overweight, at least one factor of which is relevant to the OP.   It recommend easing into it, not just lacing up shoes and sprinting.

    Stefani, if you've been dieting and exercising and haven't lost any weight since December, you should see a doctor. You may have a hormonal or thyroid issue.  If nothing else, you can get a medical opinion regarding exercise and what you can do and what you need to work up to.  Good luck.
     
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