Infant Allergies

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    Infant Allergies

    I'm no sure if anyone can relate to this, I haven't seen a post on it yet... DS has had blood in his stool for 2 weeks now. I've cut out dairy, soy and nuts. It seems to be getting worse, not better. He had his stool tested to make sure it was blood (no results yet) and I have to go back in 2 weeks with more samples to make sure that there is no more blood at that point since I will have cut soy/dairy out for a/b a month so it will be out of my system by then. If there is blood in 2 weeks, I will most likely have to switch to formula to see if he gets better.  I was reading online that corn and wheat can be other allergens, the only two things I haven't cut out yet.   This is all just wearing on me, worried about DS's health.  I really want to continue to breast feed and planned to until he was at least 6 mon.   Anyone else deal with allergies and have any advice?  Can infants this age get allergy testing, the pr i ck (figured i wouldn't be able to use that word!) to see what they're allergic to? That makes the most sense, otherwise I'll never know what it is that he's allergic to and I'll never be able to eat at a restaurant again!  Can you imagine me saying make sure my food is dairy,soy,nut, wheat and corn free?!   Ok, I'll stop rambling now. 
     
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    I'm so sorry to hear about your problems.  I have not (knock on wood) had any allergy issues with my kids but both my SIL and sister did.

    Most recently my sister's DD was having bloody stools at about 2-3 months (she is now 16 months).  Sis did an elimination diet like you are and after 2-4 weeks DD stopped having bloody stools.  Allergies mean a lot of planning needs to happen.  It was hard for Sis to do but she really wanted to nurse as long as possible.  My niece also had an issue with the angle of her rectum which the doctors thought might make her more susceptible to fissures.  In the end, at 16 months, she can (and does) eat anything and hasn't had anymore issues since approx. 9 months.  I LOVED nursing my kids but I know I would not have been willing to completely rearrange my life/diet like my sis did.  I would have put DD on formula because it would have been a million times easier although sis did lose 15 lbs on the elimination diet.

    Less of a "easy" story for my SIL and a different niece.  My niece was diagnosed young (6-8 months) with multiple allergies.  She does the allergy testing every year to check her levels (she's now 4 y/o).  She is still allergic to wheat, eggs, dairy, nuts and garlic.  She has to carry an epipen but it's been months since they have has a precautionary ER trip.  She also never had bloody stool.  Her reactions were skin and breathing issues.

    Has your pedi suggested seeing specialists?  If not, ask to see a pediatric gasto doc and a pedi allergist.  Depending on DS age, you absolutely can get him tested for allergies.

    Does DS have any other symptoms?  My sis was less concerned (but still went for monthly check up to the gastro) with the blood since her DD was completely normal otherwise and didn't seem to be uncomfortable.


     
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    July, I think your DS is too young for the scratch test right now.  I think they can happen around 1?  I may be wrong as it's been a few years since I needed this information.  My DS had the test, he was 3.5 I believe....dust, mold, pollen and dogs. 
     
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    Do you have oversupply? that can cause blood in stool.
     
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    Doctors don't usually perform the scratch test until the child is year old...sorry.
     
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    Here are a couple links from Kellymom

    What causes blood in baby's stool?

    http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/bloodystool.html

    Dairy and other Food Sensitivities in Breastfed Babies

    http://www.kellymom.com/babyconcerns/food-sensitivity.html

    If you do need to switch to formula, remember that breastfeeding is just a tiny part of your relationship with your baby, and an even smaller part of your relationship with your child over your lifetimes together. The most important thing that baby gets from you is love.
     
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    Ya DS is only  7 weeks, long wait until 1 year.   Lemon- I live by Kellymom, so i've read those articles a bunch of times and find them very helpful!  And yes, I have an oversupply, now it's really only when DS goes long periods at night that I have too much milk. He sleeps now for 5 hrs at night straight...ending in projectile spitup after he eats.  I read that too about oversupply, what I don't understand is how oversupply could cause blood.  It would be great if that was the cause and not allergies..
      Also another question about DS sleeping longer periods and having too much milk, does this eventually even out? Does your body start to realize it should produce less milk overnight?  I'd rather not be covered in spit up and then have hungry again! 
     DZ-  DS also has eczema which the pedi thought was allergy related. This is so frustrating and I hope that I don't end up with a kid that is allergic to everything.  My pedi suggested a gastro doc if it doesn't clear up.  
     
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    In Response to Re: Infant Allergies:
    what I don't understand is how oversupply could cause blood.  It would be great if that was the cause and not allergies..   Also another question about DS sleeping longer periods and having too much milk, does this eventually even out? Does your body start to realize it should produce less milk overnight?  I'd rather not be covered in spit up and then have hungry again!   
    Posted by ajuly09

    I don't know why oversupply would cause blood but I do remember it was something I had to watch out for. We had the mucousy stools -- those were gross enough. Maybe it's the irritation of constant pooping that causes the blood. Just a wild guess, though.

    YES, your body does adjust to overnights. But if you want to avoid the vomit, hand-express before nursing in the morning. And if you want to bring your oversupply down more quickly, follow the kellymom instructions for block feeding.
     
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    Sorry to hear about all the complications!!

    I didn't have oversupply in general, but I did have it in the morning once DD started sleeping so long (still do sometimes).  There were a few times where DD spit up ALLLLL over the place.  Typically she feeds for 15 minutes on each side, so I cut it down to 8-10 each for the first feeding.  I also stop to burp her after a few minutes.  She doesn't eat again for 3 hours so that reassures me that she is satisified.  I hate to be so regimented during our quality time together, but at least it works.

    And now I must investigate block feeding...

     
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    My sister LC told her it could be too much foremilk (oversupply was never sis' issue), not sure why though.
     
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    ajuly - so sorry you are dealing with this.  I would definitely make an appt with GI specialist.  It is unusual that with elimination diet that you would have to stop bf so I hope that is not the case for you.
    How is you baby's weight gain?
    If there is weight loss I would not wait 2 weeks to be seen again.
    Testing for blood is a super quick test so I am not sure why you don't have the answer yet.

    Skin tests are not done this early.  Sometimes we do blood RAST tests but not very reliable at this age.

    I have never heard of the oversupply and blood and don't think that this is a plausible mechanism for persistent blood.

    Good luck!
     
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    DS has no problem gaining weight..he was 7lb 11oz at birth and at 7 weeks is 11lb 4oz! He's a good little eater!    We got the results back and yes, it is blood (duh, we knew that) but have to wait 2 more weeks to test again.  If there is still blood then I'll def. find a specialist. 
     
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    Ajuly--are you pumping at all yet?  If so, you could tell whether or not you might be bleeding a bit when you nurse?  I had that issue at one point way back with DD and I didn't realize it until one day I started pumping and noticed blood in the bottom of the bottle.  

    I hope you get some answers soon!
     
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    I have been there!

    My DD (now 20 months) was allergic to milk and soy as an infant, and she was (ok, still is LOL) breastfed. She began having blood in her stool at about one month old. Our pedi suggested I go off dairy (both straight and as an ingredient, so truly all dairy) first. Gave it two weeks and saw no improvement. They say to allow 2-4 weeks for symptoms to entirely clear b/c it can take 2 weeks for the proteins to get out of your system then another 2 to get completely out of baby's. Week three I also went off soy (again, in all forms), and I would say within a week of eliminating soy I began to see improvement. I don't remember exactly when, but it was more than one week but probably less than three (so five weeks total) before her stools were again normal. For the record, in hindsight, I think it is possible that she was allergic only to soy b/c once in a while throughout her infancy I would make a dietary mistake, and I only ever noticed blood or irritation if the mistake was soy. But I stayed off dairy until she was 11 months (pedi encouraged us to occasionally test and she was fine when I tried milk), and she finally this month appears to be fine with soy.

    My first question is have you cut out soy and dairy in all forms? Sometimes they are kind of hidden, and soy is in everything... at least almost everything. (There's a soy ingredient called soy lecithin that is a stabilizer, so it's in sooooo many processed foods.)

    The second question is how long since you last had a milk or soy ingredient? (Please disregard BTW if you are going on a ped's instruction, but I don't think tree nuts are a common infant allergen, but peanuts are legumes like soy, so if he's super-sensitive to soy, you may want to stay off peanuts too.)

    Here's the good news: according to our GI specialist (from Children's) as long as your baby is healthy and growing, you're not doing any harm by continuing to breastfeed while you figure out what the allergen is.

    A few posters mentioned possible oversupply/excessive foremilk as a potential cause of blood in stool. It's a valid question, but I think food allergies are more common. One thing that may be another clue for you is if he has any runny nose or eczema or anything like that. I didn't put 2 and 2 together at the time, but my daughter had a constant runny nose from about 1 to 3 months of age, which I've since learned was probably related to her food allergy. Foremilk is high in water and sugar, and an excessive amount of it basically causes a colitis-like kind of diarrhea b/c it passes through the digestive tract so quickly. A food allergy presents similarly b/c the gut tries to rush the offending protein out of the body. So looking for other little clues like a runny nose, etc., can help.

    Going off both milk and soy is hard at first, and you're tired b/c you have a newborn and finding something good to eat is a PITA and seems impossible when you're out and about (again b/c of the soy in everything issue), but it gets WAY easier quickly, I promise. It took me a couple of weeks to find the appropriate substitutes for things I liked, and there were a few lifestyle changes, but overall I found it very manageable to nurse an allergic baby. I'm not anti-formula/bottlefeeding - my first baby was a preemie, so he was supplemented a lot his first few months, but I think breastfeeding is easier (and obviously cheaper) once you've got a routine going.

    If you would like my list of dietary substitutions, just let me know. This reply will get very long if I add them in now!

    Good luck.

    If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask or message me through BDC if that's possible - I've never tried, so I don't know if it is!
     
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    Sorry for the second post, just wanted to add two things:

    No, infant food allergies can't be tested - they're not the same kind of histamine reaction that a skin test would show, and blood tests are only accurate at older ages. It's a pain, I know.

    And the second thing is sort of bad news and what I meant by the lifestyle change - if you are off dairy and soy, you probably already can't eat at most restarants. Most cook in vegetable oil, which contains soy - although some allergic people tolerate oils b/c they contain little if any protein, but most restaurants use at least some processed ingredients that are likely to contain soy and maybe even dairy. Your best bets for eating out are smaller independent restaurants where the chefs know exactly what they're preparing.

    On the bright side, I became a much better cook. ;)
     
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    Excellent posts, marriedmom. A++
     
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    Marriedmom- I'm glad to know that things cleared up when you gave it some time. I only cut soy out this week but it's been 3 since I cut out dairy.  At first I just cut out the obvious dairy until I started reading about it and realized it's in everything! So when I started cutting out soy, I knew to look at labels.  I had no idea about vegetable oil!!  So good to know. I also discovered that there is soy in my prenatal.. I just bought the bottle and now am annoyed that I need to stop taking it. I wonder how much soy is in it!  I've done okay with the substitutions-coconut milk, oat, rice milk.  I tried the dairy/soy free cheese shreds- so gross.  I love the coconut yogurts, but this diet is expensive!    
      DS was just diagnosed with eczema, which I am sure is related. He also gets congested once in a while.    Thanks for your input! 
     
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    It is a bit expensive for some things, but if you have a Whole Foods you will do ok. I buy most stuff there b/c they have a lot more soy-free options, and contrary to what people think - a lot of stuff costs less there. Meat is more expensive, but a lot of basics are less expensive than at conventional grocery stores.

    BTW - the only soy-free.dairy-free bread (sliced sandwich bread type at least) that I have found is the 365 Brand "Small Batch" bread in wheat, white or whole grain at Whole Foods, and a brand called Earth's Best makes the only soy-/dairy-free margarine. It's the one in the red container.

    Good luck. Let me know if you have any questions.
     
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    CVS brand prenatal vitamins are soy, wheat and dairy free (according to the bottle, anyway).

     
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    This is a complicated one, I can tell you by experience.  With my second child (boy) he had invisible blood (was yours actually visible to the naked eye? or was it like in my son's case, determined by a doctor after analyzing his stool?).  His original symptoms were severe grunting, crying and distress. You don't mention this as symptoms so I'm not sure whether your child's problems are actually like my son's were.  But read on because there is light at the end of the tunnel.

    To also spare you having to read my entire post to hear what worked for us, I'll tell you up front to try Culterelle probiotics powder.  If your baby takes a bottle, put the powder in it and feed him that way at least once a day.  In my case, I stopped breastfeeding and used a hypoallergenic formula as soon as the elimination didn't work quickly (my son was in PAIN!) but when the problems returned once solids were introduced, I finally gave in and took the advice of the pedi GI specialist and tried Culterelle (it's safe even for newborns) and it seemed to do the trick.  Read on if you want to hear our story...

    I BF my son for the first 6 weeks of his life.  He was a colicky, uncomfortable baby who never slept; instead cried and grunted all night long.  I never actually saw any blood in his stool.  It was at his 6 week appointment that I raised the crying issue to his dr., who tested his stool, which was positive for "occult" (invisible) blood.  He advised me to first eliminate milk/dairy and, if supplementing, only use Alimentum formula.  Alimentum is considered the "big gun" formula.  It's milk protein is broken down for the baby, which helps in cases where babies' systems haven't developed enough to comfortably break down the milk on their own. 

    Long story short, after eliminating many things other than JUST dairy did nothing to help my son, I finally tried one bottle of Alimentum.  Voila!!!  My pained, crying, uncomfortable child became a happy, content child, who slept normally and turned into a completely angelic baby.  I stopped BF and never looked back.

    That is until I introduced "solid" foods at 4 months.  My son's pain returned and so did the occult blood.  I'll spare you the long drawn out details, but even after several trips to a top GI specialist, we NEVER learned what was causing his GI upset/blood.  It went away with certain foods but returned at times for apparently no reason.  I was beginning to worry it wasn't food related but was something like colitis (not really possible in infants.) Then, I  began to theorize that it wasn't the ingredients in food themselves that caused his problems, but the way they were made.  For example, processed foods seemed to hurt him. Whereas, whole, natural foods were okay.  Was it the additives? What?  I have no idea.  I just know that mashed up whole bananas were ok; the jarred purees were not.  Weird, I know.

    At the appropriate age (I can't remember when) his blood was tested for a plethora of allergens and then later he was administered a scratch test (he was older, probably past 12 months by then) and NEVER turned up with any positive allergy findings.  Was it an "intolerance"?  An "allergy"?  The GI doctor couldn't ever determine and basically told me it didn't matter which.  

    The GI specialist did give me the best advice, which was to use Culterelle.  My son was about 10 months or a year old by the time I first tried it but it seemed to work the very same day. Eventually, we stopped noticing any pain in him, he started sleeping comfortably through the night, and I gave up sending stool samples in to be tested by his pediatrician (something I had been doing almost twice a week in an effort to isolate a possible food cause.)  He is now a bright, happy, healthy 3 year old.  And while it seems the Culterelle was what helped him, it could have just been that he outgrew whatever it was that was hurting him.  He is happy; and we are no more or less the wiser.






    I'm no sure if anyone can relate to this, I haven't seen a post on it yet... DS has had blood in his stool for 2 weeks now. I've cut out dairy, soy and nuts. It seems to be getting worse, not better. He had his stool tested to make sure it was blood (no results yet) and I have to go back in 2 weeks with more samples to make sure that there is no more blood at that point since I will have cut soy/dairy out for a/b a month so it will be out of my system by then. If there is blood in 2 weeks, I will most likely have to switch to formula to see if he gets better.  I was reading online that corn and wheat can be other allergens, the only two things I haven't cut out yet.   This is all just wearing on me, worried about DS's health.  I really want to continue to breast feed and planned to until he was at least 6 mon.   Anyone else deal with allergies and have any advice?  Can infants this age get allergy testing, the pr i ck (figured i wouldn't be able to use that word!) to see what they're allergic to? That makes the most sense, otherwise I'll never know what it is that he's allergic to and I'll never be able to eat at a restaurant again!  Can you imagine me saying make sure my food is dairy,soy,nut, wheat and corn free?!   Ok, I'll stop rambling now. 
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    Klemeke- thanks for sharing your story. Wow, you went through a lot, and I am glad that everything is okay now!  Our DS has visible blood, and even when we think it isn't there if you look very hard you can see some blood.  It's not a lot, so I am okay trying to figure out what is wrong for now (not like he is going to get anemic). He is a pretty happy baby in general besides eczema and spitting up, he's not colicky. Good to know about the culterelle, I will keep it in mind to ask if we end up going to a GI.  Doesn't it make you wonder what is in baby food that didn't agree with your son..kinda scary! Makes me want to make my own baby food! 
     
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    Food allergies are not determined via a scratch test. They are done via elimination.  You have to eliminate one at a time.  It takes weeks to discover each allergy.

    There is also a difference between a food allergy and a food sensitivity.  One is a true allergy and causes an anaphalactic reaction; the other is a sensitivity.  It is unlikely to have a true allergy to wheat, corn, dairy or soy.  I am sensitive to diary, wheat and soy, but have a hayfever like reaction to them.  Does your child seem like he/she has a cold all the time? If so, it's probably a food sensitivity.

    Get a referral to a pediatric ENT. I don't think a regular pedi is going to cut it. YOu don't want to needlessly restrict your child's diet if he/she is not really sensitive to something. Besides, it's a royal PITA to actually be sensitive to things like wheat, dairy and soy, not to mention incredibly expensive to sub in other foods for those items.  So make absolutely sure before you label the baby sensitive or allergic. GL.
     
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    My DS did not have blood in his stool but he was spitting up (BF till 9mo) and was not a good sleeper. At the age of 1 when we started introducing milk things turned worse - constant diarrhea. Eliminating milk did not completely solve the issue so only when we eliminated gluten did he recover. A GI specialist at Children's told me since he is not allergic to anything he should eat everything and will get used to it - that was the last time we went to see him....
    Make sure you eliminate all the hidden dairy and gluten ingredients - whey, barley malt, food starch, etc. And making your own baby food is easy - how long does it take to saute or boil vegetables with some gluten free grains, sometimes with a small piece of good quality meat? your children't health will benefit since they later will be spared such "childhood staples" as processed chicken nuggets, boxed mac and cheese and endless greasy pizza slices
     
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    ajuly, I hope things are going well/better.
    You have gotten amazing and thorough info from so many people on here!
    I am going to mention one thing we had around that age... this has probably already been considered by your doctor, but just in case:
    We were having blood in the stool, and it turned out to be from little fissures just around the opening of the bum -- so little that I didn't notice them until I went looking for them.  It was basically from p00ping constantly (which she did) and it resolved within a few weeks.  Lots of petroleum jelly pushed inside the bum (gross, but she didn't mind it) helped, along with diaper-free time.
    The hallmark in our case was that you could see little bits of blood, almost like tiny pieces of red threads.  But it wasn't really digestive, it was just the irritation.
    This is probably not relevant, but I just thought I would tell you our experience.
     
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    ALF- you're right I shouldn't call it an allergy, it's a sensitivity. I will get a specialist if this doesn't clear up by the next time we test his stools.  

    Renate- I'm not cutting out gluten just yet because as of right now with no eggs, dairy, nuts, or soy I can't eat much. I also don't want to cut it ALL out right away or I'll never know what it is!

    medford- thanks for sharing this, I know this is one of the causes of blood, the pedi did look at his bottom, but didn't focus too much on that area so I don't want to rule it out either.  The blood he's having sounds similar to yours so it makes me wonder...
     
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