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  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from Notanewbie. Show Notanewbie's posts

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    The other possibilty is late implantation.  So if the swimmers met the egg a little later than normal and then you implanted a little later than normal that would affect how big the fetus is at this stage.  The process of the fertilized egg traveling down the fallopian tube and then implanting in the uterus can take 7-10 days (and I think I read somewhere that 6-12 days may be a more appropriate range).
     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    Yes, there are many factors involved other than the exact time and date of the BD that contribute to this measurement, and this contributes to that bell curve.  Everything about getting pregnant is absolutely an exact science of perfect timing and growth, but because it's a black box process we can calculate ourselves silly but the only thing we can arrive at in the end is an educated guess.

    Time is the only thing that will tell for sure.
     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from SilverFestiva. Show SilverFestiva's posts

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    I am starting to become a little more reasonable. I know that what we saw this week is totally normal for how everything measured. So I have to trust that everything is A-OK until something really tells me otherwise.

    Thank you ladies, I'm really grateful for your input and encouragement. It is making me feel a lot less crazy. ;-)
     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from bean78. Show bean78's posts

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    I was under the care of a Reproductive Specialist following my third miscarriage at the beginning of last december. Come January, I was still waiting for my cycle to start so I could start all the fun tests when a friend suggested just buying a home test..that'll make it start. SO I did that and after feeling nauseous for the last couple of days and nights and having a really bad night, I took the test the next morning. I hadnt even finished on the toilet before it came up positive. SO, I know for a fact when my miscarriage was and I am fairly certain when I ovulated (but I didnt use a OPK) so I was pretty certain by the dates how far along I was when I called the RS. When i went in for the first ultrasound at 5.6 weeks all I saw was the sac and the yolk. THe next week we saw the heartbeat and heard it with the internal u/s.  We still had two more over the next three weeks with the RS before I got released to my OB. THen I  had another u/s at 10 weeks with her. At that point I went from a due date of 9/9 to 9/5 or 9/4. Still a little sketchy on that one. But my dates are good on my end...the baby is just measuring on the bigger side. As long as the levels grow as they should, you kind of have to let the dates thing go. It's never quite right and no one was THERE when egg met sperm except the baby and they aren't talkin' :) And that baby will come when it's good and ready. (DS came a full week early...didn't see that coming!)


    Good luck and TRY not to stress. (but I know that is hard)
     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from SilverFestiva. Show SilverFestiva's posts

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    Thanks, you just made me laugh...which, by default of hormone levels always makes me cry too. LOL. :-)

    I caved and took another test today...for peace of mind, or as my little Indian GYN used to say, "a little piece of your mind." Love her, wish she hadn't retired. It turned postitive right away - so that just calmed me a little.

    Taking deep breaths...feeling more confident.
     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from SarahInActon. Show SarahInActon's posts

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    Hey Dream.  I was also really confused about the length of my cyle and I was plugging in all my numbers like crazy and nothing really ever made sense.  At one point my cycle was 27 days with my ovulation and period happening very close together.  And my husband would have had super sperm too so who knows?

    And to comment on the b00b thing, I first had a feeling I was prego b/c my b00bs were a bit sore and then yup, I saw a teensy weensy line saying I was prego.  And then a few days later, my sore b00bs went away (or I got used to it like another poster said) and then I was all worried and obsessing over hormone levels and such.

    Be sure to keep us all posted, we're all thinking of you!
     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from SilverFestiva. Show SilverFestiva's posts

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    Thanks, Sarah. I appreciate the support. :-)

    (p.s. boobs are nice and sore now too...maybe I notice it more when they are in a bra, and not so much when I'm laying in bed? who knows.)

    :-)
     
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    Dream - Ok, too much info but my b00bs are ALWAYS less sore when I am in bed and in the morning.  Then as the day goes on they get nice and sore.  I've obsessed about this...I know! :)
     
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    Wow - it's funny how many women use the sore b00bs pregnancy gauge!  I used to cross my arms under my chest while waiting for the train home and was always oddly comforted by the feeling that someone had used them as a punching bag :)  So I would also have to agree they must get worse as the day goes on.  Perhaps due to gravity?

    Dream, don't feel too bad about using HPTs to make sure you're still pregnant.  I used 7 over the course of my 1st trimester.  It seems crazy now but at the time it made total sense. 

    All the worry is completely normal!
     
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    AM (should I call you Dream?) - has the gas hit you yet? ;)

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from SilverFestiva. Show SilverFestiva's posts

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    You guys rock. I am feeling SO MUCH better and happy again about this. I feel very very confident.

    Poppy/(Heather...I'll still call you Poppy :-)), you can totally call me AM! It is what I'm used to. Still getting used to "dream." And yes, I feel bad for my hubby because I'm a pretty gassy person in general - I have 3 brothers, and no shame - and it has escalated greatly. lol...poor guy.

    I am still wondering if the morning sickness is going to strike.  Now that I'm officially 6 weeks (again) tomorrow, I wonder.

     
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    Hi there-
    I had an early ultrasound because I was being transitioned between my gyn and an ob, and they wanted to make sure it wasn't tubal or anything before they went through that (and in case I had to wait).   My first was at 7 weeks (exactly) and I only really saw two big balls of something (I don't even think that it looked like a seahorse)- they explained it was the "embryo" and the yolk sack, but I couldn't tell the difference.  I had another ultrasound at 11 weeks- what a dramatic change, at that point, the baby (was called a baby) but also had arms and legs- huge difference in leaving the untrasound appt. you also get to see the heart beating in the chest- which was realyl neat.

    As for the symptoms- my nausea didn't really kick in until I was 7 or 8 weeks, and then it was awful. the breast tenderness (for me) abated for the most part once I hit the second trimester.

    As for the dates, I wouldn't worry much now. Each future ultrasound gets more precise (the one I just had at 17 weeks measured femur, and two measurements in the skull), and they will always relate your pregnancy progression back to where you were during the last ultrasound and just based on the size.  That way you can get an idea of whether the baby is growing properly even if your dates are different from the calulcated one based on size. I have learned that all of the ultrasound people are variable- some would take like 20 measurements and average them, some just wizzed through that part.

    hope that helps.

     
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    Dream -- I have a friend who was absolutely positive she was a certain number of weeks along, and the doctor insisted that she was fewer weeks than she said. She planned for both due dates and delivered right on time ... for where SHE thought she was. It could have seemed like a coincidence but it happened exactly the same way for her second pregnancy! Sometimes, a mom just knows!

     
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    I'm a tad confused about how it is determined how many weeks along you are.  As a side note, I have not seen my OB yet, so haven't had a chance to ask any questions.

    I read that the number of weeks pg you are is calculated by the first date of your last period... so, for example, if you look in one of those "my pregnancy week by week" type articles and look at week 8, for example, that means 8 weeks since the start of your last period...

    Is this how it's done?  Or, is "weeks pregnant" different than "weeks old the fetus is"?  Or do they only use the "weeks since last period" up until the first ultrasound?  This is confusing.
     
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    There ARE two dates, poppy, you are not confused.  They use the date of last period to determine a due date even though they know that isn't when you conceived because it takes the fact that gestational time is an educated guess based on an average for humans into account.  The actual fetal age is calculated from the assumed date of conception.  I don't know what they use that for if anything.

    I like my Mayo Clinic's pregnancy guide; it answers all these questions.

    P.S.  It's the first date that they use to say how many weeks pregnant you are, the one from your last monthly period.  The reason we aren't focused on that measure here is we're all trying to get pg so we're thinking of the DAY it happened, not how doctors calculate "weeks pg."

    I wish they'd use fetal age the whole time and just add two weeks to the due date if they want.  SO much easier!!!
     
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    Thank you, Kar.  I am pretty sure I will not be getting an ultrasound tomorrow at my first OB appointment, therefore all the talk about "fetal age" and being worried when what the ultrasound shows contradicts when you think you conceived was confusing me because I'm thinking, "I have no idea, and won't find out tomorrow... should I be asking?  how will he know when my due date is if he doesn't know how many weeks the fetus is?" 

    All I know is I'm 8 weeks since the first day of my last period, so I consider myself 8 weeks pregnant, therefore due on Oct 13.  Without an ultrasound, I can't imagine my doctor will be able to tell me any other due date (unless there is some other math I dont' know about).

    And thank you for the book recommendation.  I've partially been reading "Girlfriend's Guide" "What to Expect" (which I don't like) and the Sears book.  But I will admit I'm not fully caught up on any of them.
     
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    No problem. :)  You can ALWAYS ask your OB these things, too.  You won't be the first or the last who asks if they are referring to actual fetal age or "weeks pg" from the last monthly period.

    I got the Mayo book 'cause it got such great reviews (and so many) on Amazon.  What to Expect didn't fare so well.
     
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    Poppy,  one way to think about it is that the way # of weeks are determined, you're actually already 2 weeks along by the time conception actually occurs.  So...you are 2(ish) weeks when conception occurs and 4(ish) weeks when you miss your period.  Your due date is at 40 weeks, which is 38(ish) weeks after conception.

    I hope that didn't confuse you more.  It makes sense in my head, but I'm not sure I explained it well in writing!
     
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    Also, if you don't have an early U/S, they will likely date you when/if you have the nucal translucency test/ early risk assessment.  It seems like most doctors recommend this test now regardless of risk level.  With early ultrasounds, they date you by how big the embryo measures.  I was told that in early pregnancy they can do this because the embryos all develop at relatively the same rate.  Later on genetics take over.  I think U/S is the most precise way to date, the whole LMP thing is tricky unless you are really in tune with your cycle.
     
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    does anyone know much about HCG levels? This is where I'm sort of confused. My doctor seemed pretty sure that once my levels reached 3,000 we should be able to detect a heartbeat. Well, my levels were well over 7,000 by the time I had the u/s on Monday and not even a fetal pole. But I was measured at 5w4d.

    So for me, the part that makes sense is that I was just not as far along as I thought and that is OK by me. But the part I'm still lost about, is the fact that my HCG levels were apparently telling a different story.

    I looked at a chart online and it said that at 5 weeks pregnant your levels could be anywhere from like 18 - 7,300. So, if I were actually only 5 weeks last Thursday - then I think this makes perfect sense. I guess I just don't understand why my GYN doesn't see this.

    which leads me to my next question (Kar, maybe you can help with this one): Do I now consider myself 6 weeks pregnant TODAY becuase of my 5w4d measurement on Monday, or do I still think of myself as 6w4d because of my LMP?

    This is so dang confusing, and stressful and completely taking over every last bit of energy I have to think.
     
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    Dream:  Thre are some other things that can affect the ultrasound reading such as a tilted uterus or even the skill of the ultrasound tech.  The measurements are so small and precise to date the fetus at this age that anything can throw the dates off a little bit.  My understanding is that until the doctor tells you otherwise, you should consider yourself the number of weeks pregnant based on LMP.  Most doctors understand that there is a margin of error in all of this date caluculation so most won't change your due date unless there is at least a week or more difference between your LMP calc and the u/s calc.  In your case, you are right on the line because there is exactly a one week difference.  At this stage, try not to sweat the small stuff.

    Just as an example, I can tell you my expereince.  Based on LMP I would have been due on 2/23/09.  At my first ultrasound and the nuchal translucency u/s, the techs both gave a due date of 3/1/09.  In my head I always considered my due date to be 2/23, but I knew that I could be up to a week late and not feel too bad about it since I knew the u/s had predicted a later date.  Make sense?  Basically, it's all just a head game.
     
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    Hey, ams, according to the Mayo book, you go by your LMP for "weeks pg" even if that is not true fetal age.  True fetal age is probably more in line with what you are measuring, but the baby will be born when it's born no matter what the due date is or how many weeks pregnant you might be...unless you tell it one way or the other.  Remember, they can hear in there. ;)  If you are tracking "late", chances are your due date is off.  You'll find out!

    HTH!

    ~kar
     
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    Thanks!

    I also called my doc b/c as I was typing I was getting annoyed that she even insinuated that I could m/c right now - I'm  having no problems that would indicate that except for that fact that I'm still early on and I know it could happen. I ended up talking to one of the nurses for like 15 minutes and she made me feel a lot better. her bedside manner is way better than the doc. I'm ready to move on to the OB once this u/s is done on Tuesday.

    For now I"m going to consider myself 6 weeks - going by the ultrasound - and I'll see what due date they give me next week and then make an official "age" and stick with it. haa.

    The good news is, I kind of feel like crap today - so I'm t hinking the nausea may be setting in. Either that or the greek food I had at lunch was a bad idea...lol.

    :-)
     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    Ams, when you start stressing about the details of the diameter, exact age down to the hour, etc., take a few deep breaths and remember that cave women had babies not knowing a thing about that little group of their baby's cells. You CAN get through this.  Yes, it's early and who doesn't know things can go wrong, but stressing over every little thing is going to make that upset tummy even worse.  Of course, that might, in a sick way, make you feel even better. ;)

    And, I'm certainly not trying to minimize your fears and concerns, just giving you a little coping idea.  No sense making yourself sicker than m/s will all by itself, right?
     
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    Hi Poppy - Even though I know the exact date of conception, my LMP and the day of transfer, they are still  using LMP.  That being said it does happen to correspond with my LMP.  I do believe that they may change according to first u/s if there is a discrepancy because this is considered to be the more accurate dating u/s. 

    Dream - Please don't be hard on yourself for stressing.  There is no such thing as just try and relax.  I completely understand how you are feeling.  Because you do not know exactly the day of conception i.e. did not use IVF (I believe), I think all you can do is wait for your next u/s.  The HCG levels do vary greatly with people.  To be honest, I have only had 2 sets of HCG levels.  Since the week 5 u/s, they felt that u/s was a better indicator.   I think you have every reason to stay positive!

    I'm sending good thoughts your way!
     
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