SJC caps unpaid maternity leave at 8 weeks

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        I  THINK  IT  SHOULD  BE  8  WEEKS   WITH  PAY.  WHY  NOT  IN THIS  STATE  ANYTHING  IS POSSIBLE.  AND  IF  YOUR  IRISH  YOU  SHOULD  HAVE  8  MONTHS  OFF,  WITH PAT.
     
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    I almost don't want to post because it is not the usual group on here... I feel like the Mom's board was taken over...

    But I am so tired of men complaining that this is just a way for women getting a free vacation.  how can they get an 8 week vacation from work, yada yada yada... this makes me dislike people.  If you want an 8 week vacation from work... dream up a "back injury"  get doctor's notes, get drugged up, and take short term disability for 8 weeks.  I am sure your drug-induced stupor will be a ton more fun than recovering from the birthing experience while caring for a helpless newborn.
     
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    GayRepublican, your name says it all.
     
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    140dBA before posting something like your statement about 65 to 75 % do some research!!!!! That is total BS... Republican propaganda with no fact behind it. For Example in Germany numbers are more like 7 to 9 % of your gross income for each Health, Social Security and Unemployment benefits. With a gross income of 3000 Euro a month that is under 300 Euro for the benefit deductions. The employer pays the same amount, thus the rates are usually listed as between 14 to 19 %, but they are split in half between employer and employee.
    Taxes are based on marital status (no marriage penalty here) you acutally get a much better rate when married than in the US, with each child you get more tax relief. You get a monthly deposit into your account for each child from the government to cover extra expenses. Parents have the right to take at least three years of unpaid maternity leave. Most daycare places don't take kids under 3 years... so there is the reason for parents to have the right to stay home. The government based on previous income, will pay out a monthly stipent during part of those three years to help with the loss of income.
    Single people without children on the other hand have a penalty tax to pay.

    All these oponents of longer maternity leave or benefits to young parents would do good to remember that they were children once too and that children are our future.
     
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           I live in vt and 12 weeks isn't enough.I'm a male and you can get 12 weeks just like my wife.If you can afford it you should be able to take it.Just another rotten way to screw the working person today.In the stressed out society we live in and most companies who are rotten to work for it's just another way to screw the worker.Glad i work in vt good luck to you people in mass.
     
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    Doesn't federal law, the family medical care act, supersede this ruling?  Another reason for the legislature to come back in session and fix an obvious injustice.  If men had babies 6 months wouldn't be long enough.  It surprising that a court that makes historic rulings like Same sex Marriage, could find no maternity rights. 
     
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    TomofBoston – the European rate is half that of America as they believe in birth control, they teach it well and don’t suffer from the rate of teenage pregnancies as we do.  They also believe is smaller families in general.  One or two children are quite enough for them on the whole.  It’s not because taxes has made them not want more kids.I am very interested by those who are crying to be more like Europe how many are the same people who label the left as Socialist, as if that is a dirty word - until it provides something they want.  And who ever quoted Europe as paying 65% to 70% tax, I’d like to know where you gleaned this information from as I lived there for ten years and never suffered anything near such a rate.  Europe does not have things perfected by any means but it has to be said that its citizens can rely on healthcare no matter what, much greater support for its mothers and children. (BTW – that ‘Secular’ nation provides more days holiday for Christmas and Easter than we do and we like to call ourselves the “Christian Nation’ – not sure why I felt the need to add that…but I did.)However, my actual thoughts on the subject in terms of this country and what we are working under: I think that 8 weeks paid is not bad considering there is nothing in the Constitution (which seems to be the big Buzz word for anything anyone does these days) to say we should have anything and we are asking private companies to fork most of the bill and besides I would not want my taxes raised to pay for anything additional.  That said, I think that if you can negotiate in writing more unpaid (or paid if you are lucky) that your negotiation should stand – period.  Why do we need another law asking corporations honor a contract they entered into in good faith with another employee?  But do I think parents are owed something additional because they are working taxpayers? No.  I’m a working taxpayer who happens to be infertile.  Should I get something in addition since I will never use my ‘Mommy Credit”?  Can I claim reimbursement of taxes paid once I reach menopause for never asking society to help me care for my baby?  Of course not.  That is not the way taxes work and I bet a lot of these Mom’s and Dad’s are the first to cry ‘No to Big Government’ on many another issue.  Get a clue – that is exactly what you are asking for.   
     
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    You guys don't get it. These judges only ruled on what the law is. If the law says 8 weeks then it is 8 weeks. The judges can't change the law. Only the legislature can change the law. 

    The federal law only kicks in for companies that employ more than 50 (or something like that) so it does not affect small businesses.
     
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    Gay, are you SERIOUS?

    Maybe gay's shouldn't have any rights. (which, btw, I don't believe...but how does that feel?) And p.s., gay men ADOPT, wouldn't you think they would need time off to start off with a new baby?
     
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    Did anyone bother to read the actual opinion before formulating their views on the subject?  http://weblinks.westlaw.com/result/default.aspx?action=Search&cnt=DOC&db=MA%2DORSLIP&eq=search&fmqv=c&fn=%5Ftop&method=TNC&n=1&origin=Search&query=TO%28ALLSCT+ALLSCTRS+ALLSCTOJ%29&rlt=CLID%5FQRYRLT2271539181898&rltdb=CLID%5FDB8324639181898&rlti=1&rp=%2Fsearch%2Fdefault%2Ewl&rs=MAOR1%2E0&service=Search&sp=MassOF%2D1001&srch=TRUE&ss=CNT&sskey=CLID%5FSSSA5427839181898&sv=Split&vr=1%2E0

    The SJC didn't 'cap maternity leave at 8 weeks' like the article implies. It interpreted the law as it applied to the plaintiff's poorly pled complaint. [really?  1 count in the complaint regarding the statute and not including counts for breach of contract????? not to mention a variety of other claims].  The SJC does not make law [however much Botsford would apparently like to]; they interpret it.  The law in this case is very clear. And it's a state law. FMLA provides for 12 weeks if your employer is a covered employer.  Nothing has changed as a result of this ruling.  Nada. 

    If you want to change the statute, write to your representatives and/or petition to have it changed. 
     
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    Actually, Peonie, I'm against same-sex couples adopting.  So, my position on "parental leave" stands:  I'm totally against it.  And believe me, I take such matters into account when I hire people.  Don't like it?  Tough!
     
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    Hey, GayRepublican.  You believe when a women gets pregnant the employer has the right to fire her?  You probably have no girlfriend/wife and are miserable person.  You are the kind of person that gives republican and conservatives bad name.   
     
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    Ditto ALF.  MMLA has always been 8 weeks.  This is nothing new. 
     
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    Miggs99: 

    Yes, she should be fired.  Why should a company be forced to keep a job for two months every year because an employee chooses to get pregnant?  Then once the kids are born and she returns to work, the daycare calls every other day with some problem that requires the employee to leave work and take care of the situation.  I run a business.  I need productivity from my employees.  It's not fair to me or the others to keep having to take up the slack.  Make a choice:  Have a career or raise a family.  You can't have both and work for me.  End of story. 

    BTW:  I'm in a committed 19-year relationship and quite happy with many friends of both sexes.  Some agree with my views, some disagree.  That's life.  Get over it.
     
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    The learning curve for new employees exceeds three months, and if you're employing the most talented people, it's in your interest to keep them. .
     
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