February TTC

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from ALF72. Show ALF72's posts

    Re: February TTC

    If you are pg, then yes, the 3 days could be a make it or break it. You only get 100% reliability of BFP on those tests if you are due or late.  If yuo get a negative now, you will probably want to test again when you are late if you are late.  If you get a BFP now, then you have your answer, but for many, they don't have enough of the hormone to trigger the BFP until after they are late. In other words, you are more likely to get a false negative than you are a false positive.  A yes now mean that you are pg, but a no now may not mean that you aren't. 
     
  2. You have chosen to ignore posts from Chiclet831. Show Chiclet831's posts

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    Fuzzy, I was going to say something similar to what ALF said. 3 days (but really 2 since you really need your first morning urine to test early, so you can't do anything until tomorrow anyway) doesn't seem like a big deal, but the amount of hormones in your urine increases rapidly each day in the beginning, so you might get a false negative now while the hormones are still building up. 

    When I've been in your position (the past two months), I've thought that if it's positive, great, but if it's negative I'm still going to think it's positive and I'm still going to want to test in 3 days, so I might as well wait.

    Of course, if you think testing early will put you out of your misery, by all means, go for it. Just know that a negative test probably won't make you feel any better (if you're anything like me)!
     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from framerican51008. Show framerican51008's posts

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    I got a false negative 3 days before AF was due, and got a BFP a week later, so it does happen!  Luckily I didn't go on any wild and crazy binges that week :o)
    Plus, as Kar mentioned, sometimes it's better not to get a BFP before AF is due, in case it turns out to be chemical.
     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    ALF is 100% correct.

    Not only is it a waste of money, but if you find out before your period is due that you are pregnant, the likely outcome is that you get what looks and feels like your period, anyway, and end up crushed because you KNOW it's a miscarriage whereas if you hadn't tested so early you'd be blissfully unaware.  Ignorance that early is more bliss before your period is due than satisfying your curiousity ever could be.  

    I guess I'm shouting into the wind about the high probability of a chemical pregnancy if you get a BFP that early.  Test super duper early if you want to, but I know I'm not going to encourage it no matter how many times anyone asks about testing before AF is due.  When you originally asked "when to test" we gave very detailed answers with the science behind our reasoning, and it's not going to change.  

    ETA:  FRER spends millions of dollars a year to make as convincing an argument as possible for testing too early.  I can concede, therefore, that our advice to wait until AF is late sounds like "Blah, blah, blah," to anyone new to TTC.
     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from ALF72. Show ALF72's posts

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    I am probably one of the least patient people walking the face of the earth.  I'm also probably one of the cheapest.  So I've always balanced my cheapness w/ my impatience in this scenario. Unless you get a BFP now, you are more likely than not going to have to test again in a few days unless you get AF. Thoes tests are not cheap {I always got the foolproof digital ones that ran for $15 a pop}. So save your money and wait to test.  The money you save in doing so will be better spent [hopefully] on onsies in the future.  GL.
     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    I'm not patient either, but having experiened the pain of a chemical pregnancy, I can wait...easily.  It's not hard once you've been through that - it doesn't take patience at all.  It takes knowing you don't really want to know before there's a good chance it will stick.

    Nothing cures you of an addiction to testing early like getting a BFP and what looks like your period a week later.
     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from rama8677. Show rama8677's posts

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    I'd wait until AF is due.  It's hard not knowing but more than likely a PG test isn't going to clarify things anyway.  Even if you get a positive, you still have to worry about chemical PG and if you get a negative, you'll be thinking to yourself that maybe you don't have enough of the hormone yet.

    For both of my BFP's I waited until 1 day after AF was due.  I also had very odd cramps and sore b00bs that felt different than regular AF that prompted me to test.  Like ALF, I only use the $$ digital tests because the lines drive me crazy and its easier for me to see the words "Pregnant" or "Not Pregnant". 

    Just try to think of something else over the next three days!! GL.
     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from siena09. Show siena09's posts

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    Fuzzy--here is a little more detail. Ovulation occurs roughly 14 days before your expected AF. This is not a law of nature--just an average. Anyway, for 85% of pregnancies implantation occurs 8-10 days after ovulation. At this point, HCG production begins but it starts out at very low levels. HCG levels roughly double every 24-36 hours in early pregnancy. HCG is the hormone tested for in home pregnancy tests. So now do you see why a few days can make a big difference? Supposing implantation has already occurred, your HCG levels could grow 8 times as large over a 3 day period, making it much more likely that the test could detect the HCG. Testing 3 to 5 days before your expected AF and implantation may not even have occurred yet. Given the high cost of drugstore tests, and the fact that TTC takes several months for the average healthy couple, many women here don't find early testing very valuable. All that said--chiclet you were right that having those 10 cheap HPTs on hand that came with my OPK order completely ruined my resolve to avoid early testing. I tested early on Sunday for the first time in 7 TTC cycles. It was the day I was expecting AF based on my cycle length trends but only 11 DPO. BFN of course. Stupid me. Still no AF though maybe I'm experiencing some of that sinusoidal variation in cycle length that kar described. No getting around the wait!
     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    I think she just wants to be told to go ahead and test early.  We already gave her the truth of the matter, that she should wait and detailed and scientific reasons why.

    ETA:  Fuzzy, if you want to test early, TEST EARLY!  We've all been there.  We've all spent $100s on BFNs and many of us have experienced the pain of knowing about our chemical pregnancies so you can't expect that we'll say anything other than to wait until after AF is late to test.  But, if you want to learn the way we did, the way FRER tells you you should, you'll be joining the club in every way, and no one will judge you poorly.
     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Chiclet831. Show Chiclet831's posts

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    Just got back from the doctor's with a referral to an RE. Apparently, I have all these healthy follicles, but none of them seem interested in ovulating. The ultrasound tech mentioned PCOS to the doctor, but he said he didn't like to use that term and told me not to worry about it. He was really positive that DH and I are both young and healthy and we'll get pregnant eventually, but that I need a little help getting things going. 

    I'm at a complete loss at how to process this. DH is taking this so positively, that we got an answer really early and didn't have to waste 6 months of trying if nothing is happening and that this specialist will have an answer for us. I agree, but I feel like my body is letting me down. I know it's not the worst news in the world. I'm trying to put it in perspective, but right now, I just want to curl up in a ball and cry.
     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from cicirose. Show cicirose's posts

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    Good luck to everyone this month!

    I will offer a voice of dissent on the testing early question. Personally, I would want to know if I was having repeat chemical pregnancies. That is probably a sign that there is something going on that needs to be addressed with a doctor. Obviously many would not want to know and when you add in the cost of the tests and psychologically draining effect of getting a BFN from testing too early, there are definitely more cons than pros.

    I think I had success testing early, around 10 dpo, but the only reason I tested then was because I was experiencing symptoms. I assume they were caused by hcg/other pregnancy horomones. If they were strong enough for me to notice, I guess they were strong enough for the test to pick up. (I'm still waiting for my first doctor's appointment so there is a slight chance that my timing was off and I tested positive later than I originally thought.)
     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    Chicklet, I'm sorry for your disappointing news!  Men always seem to not get the gravity; their sunniness is so aggrevating sometimes, isn't it?  But, at the same time, he is right - better to know so you can do what you  need to do asap.  BEST!

    Speaking of knowledge being power, knowledge of early miscarriages (from after AF was due through 12+ weeks) is useful.  Knowledge of pregnancies that only last 2 weeks due to catastrophic chromosomal combinatory issues that happen often and naturally to essentially everyone ttc is not any more useful than knowing you aren't getting pregnant from a diagnostic perspective.  And, to catch them all you'd have to test every morning a week before every AF is due because you only get a day or so when there's enough hCG in your urine to register.  You'd spend almost $500/year to obtain knowledge no one can use.  You'd be seeing the doctor anyway because as far as you knew you weren't getting pregnant, and from the doc's perspective, there's no difference.  They won't order different tests because of the chemical pregnancies than they order without knowing about them.

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from siena09. Show siena09's posts

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    Chiclet--hugs for you!! Sorry you got that news. Please allow yourself time and space to process your emotional response--it's okay to feel sad and frustrated. At the same time, sounds like your husband has good reasons to be positive and hopeful that you will get your BFP soon, maybe with a little help if you need and want it. Hope you are able to get good info from your RE. Cici has a point about repeated chemical pregnancies--I thought about mentioning that. But truly I think this would only be useful medical information if the couple were TTC for quite a while and suspected some form of infertility. Then knowing multiple chemical pregnancies occurred suggests the problem may be with implantation as opposed to conception and that may affect the medical work up and suggested intervention. In general, chemical pregnancies are so common that experiencing one or two is very unlikely to cause a doctor to change anything about a person's care. And if they dont routinely work up the cause of miscarriages in the 12th week of pregnancy (as I experienced) unless you have 2 or 3 *in a row* they are unlikely to work up a chemical pregnancy without other indications of a problem.
     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    Sometimes knowledge just isn't useful no matter how much we'd want it to be.  But, if someone is convinced it's knowledge they want to obtain and would be useful to them the technology is out there to get it.
     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from ALF72. Show ALF72's posts

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    Wanting to know about repeat chemical pg is certainly valid and medicaly useful. However, I believe Fuzzy stated that she has JUST started TTC.  Therefore, this seems to be TTC enthusiasm more than a desire to obtain medical information to explain why she's not getting pg.  In such a situation, it makes more sense to wait, for all the reasons already listed. But if she is bound and determined to test, no one is stopping her. 
     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    I'm probably overly sensitive to it having been through one.  It wasn't worth it to me at all, and I can't UNknow it.  Maybe it would be useful to know, but the fact remains it would be very expensive to test every day for the week before AF in order to discover them.  I don't know anyone that's spent that kind of money on EPTs to gather information on chemical pregnancies or anyone who's been advised by their doctor to do so, either.  If it were a great diagnostic tool, wouldn't doctors recommend testing, testing, and more testing so they can determine if a woman is having numerous chemical pregnancies?  They don't so I have to assume it's not worth it from a medical perspective.
     
  17. You have chosen to ignore posts from siena09. Show siena09's posts

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    Kar--yes I think chemical pregnancies are more the sort of thing that if you happen to know you have experienced many of them, the doctor may find it useful for you to share that info. It's not a reason to test early per se. I have also never heard of a doc recommending early pregnancy testing. I am sorry at any rate that you had to go through that. The emotional cost of pregnancy loss is not small, regardless I think, of how far along one is...
     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from cicirose. Show cicirose's posts

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    Chiclet - so sorry about your diagnosis. I have/had suspected PCOS that they couldn't confirm through bloodtests. It took me a really long time to get regulated after bcp. I think there are many treatment options and it's great that your doctor is willing to step in so soon. Definitely don't think of your body failing you, it could be caused by anything.

    I guess I preferred to know about any chemical pregnancies because I had suspected PCOS. In that case, insufficient progesterone could be playing a role, for example, and would be helpful for doctors to know about. For someone just starting out, I totally agree it is probably best to give it a couple months.

    Kar - I believe when women go through fertility treatments they often have to test early. At least that is what I've heard from a few women going through treatments but perhaps it's not widespread. I guess they can sometimes diagnose or monitor through bloodwork. Honestly, I did not have any treatments so I am only speculating.
     
  19. You have chosen to ignore posts from MissWolff. Show MissWolff's posts

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    Hi Chiclet-  Bigs hugs for you today. Don't feel bad for being sad and frustrated. It's always tough when there is a departure from the blissful, easy TTC that you think it's going to be...

    That being said, take comfort in the knowledge you have gotten. You can now take that and move forward.
     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    I think if it were a helpful, diagnostically relevant thing to know, REs would routinely prescribe early pg testing to their patients.

    Suggesting that there's a valid, scientific reason to test before AF is due will just lead to her to spend far too much on tests every month with no benefit.

    But, I'm guessing she's going to learn the way we all did, by testing early until she gets sick of wasting money, as per the hope and prayer of the FRER ad executives.  And, in the meantime, I suppose if she gets a number of BFPs and then her period at the normal time, she can tell her doctor and see if it matters.
     
  21. You have chosen to ignore posts from Fuzzymiss9. Show Fuzzymiss9's posts

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    Thanks Ladies!  Ok, I'll sit on my hands I swear.  I was going to buy a test today so I have it, but I might be tempted to use it early and waste my money.

    Yeah it's just excitement, and worry I guess, I wonder if I'll be able to get pg or if I left it too late.  I hate not knowing stuff, but it will only be a few days and I have a bunch of other things to do in the meantime....
     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from SSBride09. Show SSBride09's posts

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    Back from my trip and just now catching up on all the Feb posts.  Chiclet, so sorry about the news, but they say knowledge is power and having intervention so early is better than trying for a year before you find out there is an issue.

    I'm excited that I don't think I missed my window this month like I expected.  We'll see... now I just need to make it through another 2ww.
     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from kargiver. Show kargiver's posts

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    Fuzzy, thanks for hanging in through all our banter!  I get SO mad at FR for advertising, "You can KNOW 6 days earlier!" and then they add something about how it's best for your baby to test far too early as if you're a bad person for NOT testing before AF is due.

    SS, so good to see you - it's been awhile.  Glad you didn't miss your window.  GL this 2ww.


     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from WhirledPeasPlease. Show WhirledPeasPlease's posts

    Re: February TTC

    Chiclet, I'm sorry for your crap.py news. Did you suspect any ovulation problems? Did your RE offer any options going forward? I think the men can feel disconnected from TTC at times; they're not the ones temping, testing, calculating, etc., and everyone's had it ingrained since the teen years that sex = pregnancy. They should amend that to specify 18-year-olds who aren't trying. 

    I'm getting increasingly anxious for my doc appt on Thursday because freaking out is something I'm really good at. I mentioned it to DH but he doesn't really get it. Sometimes his calmness annoys me. :)

    Welcome back, SS and good luck with your 2ww!

    Also, what does RE stand for?
     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from siena09. Show siena09's posts

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    RE=reproductive endocrinologist

    GL with the 2ww, SS!
    WPP--hope your appt goes well! 
    Fuzzy--yeah, keeping the tests out of the house can be the best way to assert self control. :)
     
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