March 2011

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    I was afraid you thought it was higher given your posts about the ski trip.  Disappointment is a btch.  :(  But, 10% is a much higher chance of getting pg naturally, though, after age 35.
     
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    Tangerine--I was on the maximum dose for my 3rd clomid cycle.  150mg sounds right.  And, I think they shifted me to Day 5 - 9.  Did the RE say why they didn't want to switch dose or days yet?  It seems odd that they would do the same thing when it didn't work the first time, but I don't know what's "normal," I just know what my RE did in my case.  Hmm...as I'm thinking about it, I may have started the first cycle on a lower dose...maybe 50mg?  And then the RE increased it on both the 2nd and 3rd cycle, so maybe since your first dose was equivalent to my 2nd dose, that would explain it.

    Here's hoping this cycle is better than last!
     
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    tang - i took 50 mg clomid (the lowest dose) on days 5-9 for both cycles.  i remember the specialist saying there's about a 15% chance the 1st round on clomid, a 30% chance on the 2nd round, and a 45% chance on the third - and that's where the chances of getting pg level out.  there was never any discussion on upping my dosage... i'm guessing b/c i did ovulate on the 50mg the first round?  anyway, i really think it didn't work the first round because the egg for that cycle was formed during my 2ww during the previous cycle (not on clomid), when my hormones were all messed up.  so let's hope you have success on round 2 or 3!!!  oh - and just like daisy said, time BD-ing regardless of the OPK.  i didn't have an IUI the 2nd round b/c the OPK didn't work, but i got PG b/c i knew around the time i was supposed to o based on the last round, and we BD'd anyway.  as long as DH's counts are normal i don't think you need to worry about adding BD-ing to the mix.

    daisy, i thought you went up to 250mg - that's the # that sticks out in my mind from when i was asking you about your experience?  (ha!)
     
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    Stefani--you probably remember better than I do.  It was a lot fresher in my mind when I told you what I had done.  I just know I took whatever the maximum dose is on the last cycle...so whatever that is is what I took. :)

    (And I think you meant that Tangerine doesn't have to worry about adding IUI to the mix...BD-ing is kind of important ;)  )
     
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    Thank you both SO much. This is really helpful (and gives me some hope...having a rough day today, emotionally speaking). Daisy, I did take 100mg last cycle, and did quickly develop a follicle, so I guess the RE wants to try it again before going up to 150. I don't know anything about the role of timing, though - does either of you know the rationale behind moving from days 3-7 to 5-9?

    About IUI, I'm torn. I do wonder about the 30ish % (?) of clomid users who develop hostile CM, and I know IUI would help to bypass that potential trap. As it happens, though, it's looking likely that the day we'd have to do IUI is a day when we'll be out of town (for what else, but a baby shower? ;)  So we might have to resort to BD-ing on the sly.

    Stefani, your stats sound a lot closer to what I'd read than my nurse's dismal less-than-10%. I asked if my relatively young age might increase the likelihood, and she sort of murmured "oh sure, sure."

    Anyway, thanks again...it's so helpful to hear from people who've been through this drill!
     
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    Hi, I realize this is a strange question for the TTC board but can anyone recommend an adoption agency here in MA? (or is there an adoption board- guess I should've checked that first...)  I think we're facing the end of the ttc rollercoaster and I want to start exploring adoption. 

    Got the news just a few hours ago that I'm pg as a result of the frozen transfer but the level is low. I know whether the number doubles will be important but having twice had low initial betas (one chemical pg, one m/c), I'm being realistic. We still have a few frozen embyies so there will likely be one more round of IVF but my heart is saying it's time to look seriously at adoption. Anyone know of agencies that are good or not so good? 
     
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    Congrats, tc!  Pulling for those numbers to rise like crazy!!

    About the adoption, there is a top level Adoption topic right under TTC.  It doesn't get much action, though.  I asked why on earth it might cost $30,000 - $50k, and didn't get an ansnwer.  GL!
     
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    TC, I'm so sorry the number is low.  I'm hoping you're wrong that the outcome's going to be bad, though.  Unfortunately I don't know much about adoption agencies--I know some people who are working with MAPS, in Maine, but not well enough to say it's good or bad.
     
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    Tc - I am still keeping out hope for you but I certainly understand wanting to know the next step.  My sister (who is also infertile) went through Abrazo.  Now, I believe they are out of North Carolina but may have offices around here.  The babies they place are from Texas and the perk to that is that Texas has I think a 48 hour limit to when the birth parents can change their mind after signing over their rights.  Obviously, this gave my sister a huge piece of mind that someone wasn't going to come back for her children at some point .

    Her adoptions went VERY smoothly.  After finishing the whole process I don't think it took longer than a few months to get her daughter (called at the time she was born) and also a few months to get her son (she was in the delivery room when he was born).

    Anyway, I am a big fan of adoption!  My niece and nephew could not be any better adjusted.  I definitely would have gone with Abrazo only because I saw how successful and smooth it was for my sister.

    I still hope everything goes well for you!  I will be thinking good sticky thoughts for you!
     
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    lil, I hate to ask, but do you know how much they cost?  We're thinking about it, too, but I can't get an answer about why (or if) it really does cost so much. Thanks!
     
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    Tangerine--take Mucinex or Robitussin (just plain Robitussin--no letters after it)  for the CM issue.  Not only does it loosen up the mucous in your nose and chest, but, ahem, everywhere else as well....  Again, I'm having a hard time remembering the details, but I think I took it according to the package directions for several days around when I expected to ovulate.  Your RE may be able to give you more info if you ask (I think TCOYF mentions it too...). 
     
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    Kar, I have no idea re specifics b/c I haven't looked into it in depth, but I am guessing that the reason each adoption is so expensive is b/c of the legal fees involved in a properly processed adoption.  If you figure the monetary split is 60/20/20 for legal fees/agency fees/state fees [just guessing, but this feels right] then $30-50k would be the general average.  Adoption attorneys are specialized and are going to cost a few hundred per hour no matter what state you are in. 
     
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    Kar - It depends on a couple of factors.  For my little niece my sister was called 2 days after she was born.  So really her expenses were just regarding the adoption.  I would guess around 15,000.  However, if you are matched early sometimes you have to pay for health care and other issues for the pregnant woman.  This happened the second time around and it was definitely more and I would guess around the 20-30,000.  I can get the numbers.  I think their website actually talks about the cost so might be worth looking at.  Truthfully, the cost and the uncertainty were two of the reasons we went with the donor egg first but otherwise would have done adoption too.
     
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    Thanks, ladies!  Who knew TTC was the place to get my adoption question answered. :)

    DH brought up adoption about a year ago, and in the course of the conversation he wondered how much people got paid to adopt a baby.  When I told him the deal he lost a few shades of color.
     
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    Just wanted to add that my parents had given up trying and were looking into adoption options when they conceived me.  My mom has always said that taking some of the pressure off helped.  Best of luck to all of you.  I'm cheering for you all!  :-)
     
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    Re cost of adoption....a friend of mine spent 40k. In addition to all the legal fees, the cost represents the screening process they do for the birth mothers. Additionally, they (the company my friend used) only work in states with very short windows in which the birth mothers can change their minds- so there can be a cost for housing them in those states. She used adoptionnetwork.com. From start to finish, the process took 6 months.  She only had great things to say about this company and her experience. She was able to recoup some of the cost through tax deductions.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the helpful info on adoption!  Lil, I looked at Abrazo's site and they are based in Texas but it says they place children in all states except NY.  Also said the average cost is $18-22,000, which is far less than the $30-45,000 I've seen from local adoption agencies.  Knowing that your sister had good luck with Abrazo is very encouraging- plus I never would've thought to consider agencies outside of MA.  Thanks Shorty- I'll check out the agency you mentioned. The tax credits can only help as well.

    Kar, for what it's worth, one agency that sent me info regarding fees had it all broken down but by far the biggest component was $14000 for an agency fee- and it says that's for the agency work in outreach, analyzing and confirming match, etc and not for work of outside professionals (lawyers).  Having just paid a boatload of money for the whole donor egg process, I'm still trying to get my head around this.  Maybe I'll have just a shred of luck here and have either this current pg or one with the remaining frozen embies actually stick.  Hmm, felt a little nauseous on the drive home, not sure if it's the pg or the thought of having to start over with adoption that's making me feel ill!!

    Sorry to hijack the thread with adoption issues but my thanks to all!
     
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    Just as an added bit of information, the increased adoption credit is set to sunset back to $5K in 2013.  In 2011 and 2012 you can claim up to $12-$13K as a credit against costs paid for adoption.  So if you're looking into it, you would want to try to have it complete by the end of 2012 or else you'll lose out on that additional $7k-$8K.  Also in 2011 the credit is refundable which means that if you spent $20K on an adoption and your total taxes owed for the year were only $8K, you would get the benefit of the additional $5k back as a refund (adoption credit of $13K less taxes owed of $8K = refund)  The credit is not refundable for 2012.  
     
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    So, my further ultrasound is today.  Between the continued spotting and the real decline in my pregnancy symptoms, I'm not holding out much hope.
     
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    Thistle- Keep us posted on the ultrasound.  Still sending you positive thoughts, no matter the results you get today.

    AFM, I had an early ultrasound this morning.  There's something in there, so in a way that's reassuring.  They pointed out the gestational and yolk sacs.  I thought that I was a day shy of 6 wks based on the count from the day I started bleeding in Jan, but the technician is dating me at 5.5 wks at the moment.  Because it's so early, there was no heartbeat to be heard but I made another appointment 2 wks from today to see how things are (hopefully!!) progressing.  More wait and see...
     
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    Sorry thistle, still hoping for the best but I'm very sorry for what you're going thru.

    Congrats itsallnew, that sounds very promising. It's nice to see some happy news on here!
     
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    Thistle, I really hope your u/s goes well and you get some positive news today.

    Itsallnew, that sounds wonderful! Congrats :)

    tc95, I know another anecdote is probably not helpful...but a woman I know (who's in her early 40s) had given up on TTC last summer and decided to move forward with adoption. A few weeks later, BFP - and she's ready to deliver any day now. There do seem to be a lot of those stories out there, and I know you'll get your LO one way or the other.

    AFM - CD2 and hoping for a clear u/s tomorrow so I can start clomid round 2. Daisy, thank you again for the tips. I looked into the Mucinex thing a bit more - I took maybe 2 pills haphazardly last cycle, not realizing that you're supposed to take it for several days, lots of water, etc etc. I'll definitely be doing that this time around. I asked my RE's nurse last month, and she said she'd heard of some patients taking it but didn't have any guidance. Thanks again!
     
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    I will not test ... I will not test ... I will not test

    3 days until I would expect AF :o)  Though I am preparing myself to be patient.  After the m/c I'm really not 100% sure when to expect AF... but I think I caught my O day on the strips... and based on that 14 days is Friday or Saturday

    Thistle ... I'll keep my fingers crossed for you... and my thoughts are with you one way or the other.
    Congrats itsallnew ... sounds like things are just a little earlier along than you thought :o)


    Best of luck to all those starting their cycles or in the 2ww!!

     
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    Okay, after all my hysteria about it the ultrasound was fine.  There's a heartbeat and all seems normal.  Thank you all so much for the good wishes.  I am of course still finding things to freak out about--and I think after the last two pregnancies it will take me a while to feel safe with this one--but it's good news.

    Bostongrl, I had the same experience of not being sure how to time things after my very early miscarriage last cycle, but it looks like I got it right based on the strips.  It's pretty useful information--if I didn't know when I'd ovulated I think everything was way behind where it actually is.  Good luck! 

    Itsallnew, congratulations!  It sounds like all great news so far.
     
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    Hooray, thistle! What great news!
     

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