March TTC

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from ALF72. Show ALF72's posts

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    This may be a stupid question, but why are you taking an antibiotic for an HSG?  I had one done and didn't take anything beforehand.  I am hypervigilant about antibiotics b/c I have drug allergies so I would remember having to take one for this test.   
     
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    Alf, they say there is a very slight chance for infection because of the foreign body into your cervix.  The water (or dye) is sterile and I would imagine the catheter is too... but they say you never know.  So they recommend the antibiotic... but very low dose since you are only required to take it twice.
     
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    Oh, and Chiclet, you will also get instant gratification with the HSG version.  They will let you watch the screen that the radiologist watches as well (or at least they did with me two years ago).  And it is actually kinda cool... if you don't get squeemish.  You will be able to see on the screen as your uterus and tubes 'light up' with the dye.  You'll be amazed how small those tubes really are.  Think pencil lead small!
     
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    Hmmm, I didn't get any antibiotics. I had the version where I got to watch all the excitement on the screen too. 
     
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    Thanks IPW. I am really nervous about this whole thing. Things with dye make me nervous, nevermind the chance of infection and the pain factor! My doctor said it will be water, but I was kind of thinking it would be dye. I'm just hoping it has the same luck for me that it had for you the first time around. (Except for that whole thing were I don't seem to ovulate. This probably won't make that happen...)
     
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    I'm not advising you to go against your doctor, but if it were me I'd skip the antibiotic because they kill the good flora in your body, too, which, ironically is responsible for immunity.  Probiotics afterwards counteract that to a great extent, but I just hate taking them to begin with unless I have to.
     
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    I'm a little surprised that a dr would prescribe antibiotics as a 'preventative measure'. There is ample press about the problem of overprescribing antibiotics and the development of superbugs. It's irresponsible IMO to prescribe unless there is an actual infection that requires it.  But that is about as much of a rant as I'm going to get into.  I can only take like 2 antibiotics b/c I'm allergic to pennicillin and sulfa drugs so if they become ineffective against superbugs I'm essentially $c^ewed, so I have a personal interest in it. lol.
     
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    Good luck to everyone here. In the 2ww I did buy 50 of those test strips so I didn't feel guilty taking tests. Nothing all week then after 3 days of indigestion (very weird for me) I took a test this morning at 12 dpo and got the faintest of bfp! Before I get too carried away going to see if it sticks at the weekend...v exciting!!
     
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    Sticky thoughts, Fuzzy!!!  Wow, that was fast!

    ALF, I couldn't agree more.  I can't take many different antibiotics, eihter, and my biggest mortal fear is that all this overprescribing will render them all ineffective.  
     
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    Wow fuzzy, congrats! Here's to sticky thoughts!!!

    I am also in 2ww, but I just usually wait for AF to show or not...so I have 12 days to go....sooooo long!

     
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    I'm allergic to pennicillin as well, but my sister, who has a heart condition has to take them before she goes to the dentist. 
     
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    If someone has a cardiac problem or is severely immunocompromised, I can totally understand prophylactically prescribing antibiotics.  Otherwise, prescribing it to someone healthy "just in case" due to a tiny chance of infection is a recipe for more superbugs.  

    ETA:  Honestly, we have a chance of getting a bacterial infection every day from a cut or just breathing.  We aren't all on antibiotics just in case.  

    And, this is not be be construed as anything against IPW, just a discussion prompted by the fact that her doc is prescribing antibiotics for an HSG procedure which I find disturbing.  But, that's nothing against IPW and whatever decision she makes about it.
     
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    Just got back from the HSG. Man, that hurt when it was happening, but I don't have much cramping right now. I took the antibiotics (and everyone I met today asked me if I was on them). My thought is that I'd rather take my chances with the superbug than risk a uterine infection that could cause scarring or compromise one of my tubes, and then where will we be?!? It's only six pills. I don't know, well, anything about biology, but I'm not sure that's enough to build up an immunity. But, the good news is that the radiologist said that everything looks clear and healthy. Yippee!

    Congrats on your BFP Fuzzy! Sending you sticky thoughts!

    Hoping to hear from Tom today about her transfer! Good luck to everyone in the 2ww!
     
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    As a pregnant woman, you are considered somewhat immuno-compromised, which is why they prescribe the antibiotic.  Same reason pregnant women are first in line for flu shots.  If a pregnant woman gets an infection or seriously ill, there are far fewer drugs that she can take that will be safe for both her and the baby, which is why they try to prevent infection.

    In normal life, I am the last person who wants antibiotics, and b/c of a family member who had a terrible reaction to a Z-pack, I always take the slow dose, 10 day version when I need them.  But as a pregnant person, caution is more important.
     
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    I can see the pregnancy immunosuppressed rationale, but for the low chance that an infection could occur and for the fact that you're not pregnant at the time of an HSG procedure I still come down on the side of the doctors that don't choose to prescribe them prophylactically.  I am definitely biased, though, for my fear of superbugs.
     
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    [QUOTE]As a pregnant woman, you are considered somewhat immuno-compromised, which is why they prescribe the antibiotic.  Same reason pregnant women are first in line for flu shots.  If a pregnant woman gets an infection or seriously ill, there are far fewer drugs that she can take that will be safe for both her and the baby, which is why they try to prevent infection. In normal life, I am the last person who wants antibiotics, and b/c of a family member who had a terrible reaction to a Z-pack, I always take the slow dose, 10 day version when I need them.  But as a pregnant person, caution is more important.
    Posted by luvRIboy[/QUOTE]

    Someone who is getting an HSG is NOT pregnant. That is the point of test - to see if there are blocked tubes preventing pg. 

    Also, on the superbug issue - most people don't need to worry about it.  It's people like kar and me, who have drug allergies [pennicillin and sulfa drugs which means everything ending in 'cin' which is the majority of antibiotics], nd those who are immunocompromised who need to worry.  They will most likely come up w/ some new drug for the majority of people, but for those who fall into the allergic or immunocompromised, it means we are up the creek w/o a paddle. 
    Also, it's not an issue of an individual building up an immunity to a particular drug - it's the bacteria becoming resistant to the drug - thus becoming an untreatable 'superbug'. So the fact that you take a drug is not the issue -it's the fact that they are overprescibed to thousands of people, thus diluting their effectiveness overtime as the bacteria builds up resistance to the drug.  Your 6 pills add to the 6 million that other doctors are prescribing.
     
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    IPW is right about the reason for the antibiotics.  The are usually low dose and just a few to prevent infection.  If not taken and the women gets PG after the treatment it could be a protenial risk for both of them.  If each of the treatments while seeing the RE and I was put on low dose of antibiotics.  You do have an option not to take them but you much inform the RE before hand.

    Congrats Fuzzy!

    Chiclet, glad to hear the HSG went well and is now all over!  

    The transfer yesterday went well and we treansferred two embyros.  Now, I'm just trying to remain calm and relax.
     
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    I just think it's weird b/c they are not routinely prescribed - so if every dr does not prescribe them in conjunction /w the test, then I don't see how they are necessary.  I was seeing a specialist when I had my test and they never prescribed them to me, nor did the dr or any person involved in the test ever ask about it at the time of the exam. 

    I can understand the thought process for prescribing them if you are undergoing a RE procdure the purpose of which is to achieve a pg. But for a test like an HSG where it's diagnostic only, it just doesn't make sense. 

    They also have to time the HSG for so many days after your period and before potential ovulation b/c it's an X ray and they won't run the test if they think you are pg b/c of the real dangers associated w/ X rays and early pg.  So the 'preventative nature' of the antibiotics argument b/c of potential risk to a nonexistent embryo [if the test is properly timed] just doesn't make sense.   
     
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    Hi Ladies, I just wanted to recommend a book that I wish I read a over year ago.  It's helpful for those of you thinking about starting treatments.  Anyways, here is the title "Hopeful Heart, Peaceful Mind:Managing Infertility".
     
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    Tomarra, that's great that the transfer went well! Ultimate stickiness for you!

    Chiclet, glad to hear you made it through the HSG and everything looks good. That sounds like a really rough test. 

    I had my first visit with the RE today. We talked a lot about my history and my mom's history. The RE really seemed to take me seriously (unlike the gyno I saw last month). She ordered another blood test--and I didn't pass out!--and I have to get an ultrasound next Thursday. This may sound dumb, but what exactly do they do for an ultrasound? Everything I know about ultrasounds I've learned from romantic comedies. 
     
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    WPP, if it's a transvaginal ultrasound, they stick a wandlike thingie up there and take a peek. It's totally painless [and this coming from someone who had what was probably the worst HSG experience on the planet].  It's a bit weird, but it doesn't hurt at all.  They also put gel on your stomach and put the wand there to look in that way too [like you see them do for pg women].  It's fast and easy. 
     
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    WPP, I'm glad you finally got someone who is taking you seriously and wants to help, aka, do a doctor's JOB.  Grr, your previous experience makes me mad!  Anyway, ALF gave a good description of the transvaginal u/s; it's totally painless for everyone.  Congrats on not passing out with the blood draw; sounds like you've turned a corner there. :)
     
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    FWIW, if I recall correctly, IPW got pregnant almost immediately (like days) after her last HSG test. If she were to have a minor infection at the same time and again conceive immediately, that could be quite serious. Given her particular history, I think a low dose of antibiotic is not out of line.

    I understand the context of what everyone is saying, but we have to look to individual circumstances and, in IPW's situation, I'd also want the antibiotic.
     
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    The rationale is putting a catheter up through a not sterile va*gina into a supposedly sterile uterus and then shooting a dye that ultimately may extravasate into the abdominal cavity.  Infections in the abdomina cavity are awful and life-threatening.
    However, I think the risk of infection is very low but would follow my doctor's orders on this.

    With regards to antibiotic use - I think the real fight is everyone coming to the doctors after 4 days of symptoms with congestion and facial pain and insisting they need antibiotics for a sinus infection and the same is true for "bronchitis".
    Without having sx for over 2 weeks, the odds that it is a bacterial infection is small (i.e. less than 10%) and this is where so much of our antibiotic use comes into play.
     
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    Chicklet... so glad your tubes are clear and that is behind you!  And WPP, great news on your appointment where you got to really ask some questions and be heard.  Onward toward a great plan for you.  Fuzzy... really hoping for more good news from you.  You're on a great streak so far :-)  Tomarra... thinking of you as I can imagine these 2ww will be especially long.  But great that you got two perfect little embys transferred.

    ML is correct... my DS was conceived 4 days after my first HSG.  Regardless, I rarely take medicine and haven't taken antibiotics since I took them for preventative measure before my HSG two years ago.  So another 4 little pills wouldn't have created a super bug resistance in my body I'm guessing.

    ALF, question about your penicillin allergy.  Does anyone else in your family have it?  What happens if you did take/do take?  My DH has it and says when he was 5 or so, and given it, he immediately stopped breathing.  So he hasn't had any of those family of medicines since.  My DS had erythromycin (sp?) gel rubbed on his eyes at birth, and his eyes swelled like he had been in a bad fist fight.  So we've stayed away from penicillan/amoxicillan etc. since in case he got the same allergy.  He's on an antibiotic now for his double ear infection, and last Friday night when he was diagnosed, the nurse practitioner was like "we can try penicillin and see what happens if you want."  We opted not to considering it was 9pm on a Friday night (didn't feel like racing to the ER at midnight) and he's still so young (almost 17 mths).  So I'm doing my homework now about these types of allergies and will talk to his pediatrician at his next appt.
     
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