ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap.

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    All these so called blunders (by PC) are average to minimal in comparison to the majority.

    Posted by pauly1


    Oh Paully lol...

    I'd love for you to elaborate on this with a few examples...
     
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    In Response to Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap. : @ Beantown...   You've heard of the "salary cap" right? What do you mean the Bruins can afford this kind of over compensation??? The Bruins are OVER the salary cap right now due to idiotic contracts and Chiarelli's single handedly bungling of the salary cap. You understand they have to be UNDER the cap before the season starts right? How has Chiarelli done better than O'Connell anyways? Chiarelli is O'connell with a salary cap! "The past 4 years under Chiarelli, the Bruins have gotten 57.3% of the maximum points they could have won, 1 100 point+ season with 3 playoff appearances and 1 first place finish The prior 5 years under O'Connell the Bruins got 55.4% of the maximum points they could have won with 3 playoff appearances, 2 1st place finish and 2 100 point seasons. If anything, the last 4 years are remarkably similar to the previous 5" And in reguards to the Salary Cap yes Chiarelli will be making a move to "compensate" for his current situation and that most likely will be giving Savard away their best offensive player in a "soft deal" aka getting not much in return to make up for Chiarelli's bungling of the salary cap. Call me a Chiarelli basher all you want but for those who don't see it you have your heads in the clouds. 2010-11 BOSTON BRUINS CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR FORWARDS Milan Lucic ($4.083m) / Marc Savard ($4.007m) / * Seguin, Tyler ($3.500m) Marco Sturm ($3.500m) / David Krejci ($3.750m) / Nathan Horton ($4.000m) * Blake Wheeler ($2.000m) / Patrice Bergeron ($4.750m) / Mark Recchi ($1.700m) Daniel Paille ($1.075m) / * Greg Campbell ($0.850m) / Shawn Thornton ($0.812m) Michael Ryder ($4.000m) DEFENSEMEN Zdeno Chara ($7.500m) / Dennis Seidenberg ($3.250m) Andrew Ference ($2.250m) / Johnny Boychuk ($1.875m) * Mark Stuart ($1.800m) / Matt Hunwick ($1.450m) * Adam McQuaid ($0.650m) GOALTENDERS Tuukka Rask ($1.250m) / Tim Thomas ($5.000m) CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion) ROSTER: 22; CAP: $59.4m; BUYOUTS: $.725m; PAYROLL: $64.503m; BONUSES : $3.300m; CAP ROOM : $-1.803m CAP PENALTY : $-1.750m PROJECTED CAP SPACE : $-3.553m
    Posted by Neely20005



    This is close.. but a few problems, you have the bruins carry ing 13 forwards, and 7 D, they will not actually be doing this.. As part of the cap crunch the will carry 12f and 7 d I am guessing, so you can trim some of the over cap to begin with.

    Also the 3.3 bonus's the team will not hit all of that. so while that -3.5 would be awful (it would come off next years figure) 2.85m of that is tied to seguin, while 700k is to recchi.. Not sure what recchi's is tied to (PP perhaps?0

    20g, possible, 35a possible 60 pts possible..all rookie team, I hope so..

    all star team? unlikely..

    calder.. not sure..

    top 10 in the art ross.. no
    top 10 in the hart? no
    selke?? no

    he will probably max out his group A bonuses 850k.. plus his 900k? salary.. but he won't achieve the full 3.75..
     
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    @BruinsTicketSales No man, I don't think you get it. I bin waiting 35 F'n years for a F'n cup. I don't give a shyte how much dough they gottah blow. Sounds to me like your the pom pom waiving sheepman goody goody. It'll be alright man, it'll be alright. Is 1.8 really worth crying about. C'mon people gimme a break, take off the pink hats.
    Posted by BeantownBDH


    Talk about being totally clueless!
     
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    In Response to Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap. : This is close.. but a few problems, you have the bruins carry ing 13 forwards, and 7 D, they will not actually be doing this.. As part of the cap crunch the will carry 12f and 7 d I am guessing, so you can trim some of the over cap to begin with. Also the 3.3 bonus's the team will not hit all of that. so while that -3.5 would be awful (it would come off next years figure) 2.85m of that is tied to seguin, while 700k is to recchi.. Not sure what recchi's is tied to (PP perhaps?0 20g, possible, 35a possible 60 pts possible..all rookie team, I hope so.. all star team? unlikely.. calder.. not sure.. top 10 in the art ross.. no top 10 in the hart? no selke?? no he will probably max out his group A bonuses 850k.. plus his 900k? salary.. but he won't achieve the full 3.75..
    Posted by rolerhoky19

    Thanks Roler saved me the typing but you left out the $1+M savings on Sturm LTIR so Chia is comfortably under and as numerous posters have pointed out he can stash Ryder in Providence if he has too. 
     
     
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    In Response to Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap. : Thanks Roler saved me the typing but you left out the $1+M savings on Sturm LTIR so Chia is comfortably under and as numerous posters have pointed out he can stash Ryder in Providence if he has too.   
    Posted by Bostonfan4ever2010


    Chiarelli is not comfortably under the cap.

    "stash Ryder in providence" Really? You think JJ is just going to eat $4 Million dollars? You can't be that naive. If JJ does that Chiarelli is out the door with Ryder.
     
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    Chowdah, I agree they are not comfortable under the cap, they are tight, but it is possible to get things done..

    I also agree I don't think the bruins will be stashing ryder in providence unless he legitamely loses his spot on the top 9 forwards to a player in camp. If he does get beat out I think JJ has no problem with him being in providence, he fits the bill anyhow, why would he not want the best product on the ice...
     
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    Do you guys think that PC is all alone in managing a team and the salary cap?  Do you not think there are committees and advisors involved?  So by blaming one person you need to realize there are a wack of others involved.  Regardless of all the mistakes (if you want to call them that), The B's management pulled off the steal of the decade when he traded away Kessel for Seguin, next year's Leafs first round pick and other second round picks.  This trade will rival the trade that brought Neely to Boston and he will be remembered for that and not for having to pay to many bonuses. 

    Wait about 5 years and see.

    Matt
     
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    OK "comfortably" is not the appropriate word choice I stand corrected but they are under.  Unless Wheeler and Stewie both get a lot more than I expect.  I just wish they could fit a Coliacovo or similar veteran D in here to fill the Wideman role and minutes.  IF (note big if chowdah) they stash Ryder they could grab that guy. 
     
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    OK "comfortably" is not the appropriate word choice I stand corrected but they are under.  Unless Wheeler and Stewie both get a lot more than I expect.  I just wish they could fit a Coliacovo or similar veteran D in here to fill the Wideman role and minutes.  IF (note big if chowdah) they stash Ryder they could grab that guy. 
    Posted by Bostonfan4ever2010


    Yeah, and if Wheeler and Stuart each sign for $500K, all of the problems are solved.

    That's a big if, however.
     
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    Colaiacovo!  Wow.  If you think Ference has trouble staying in the line-up, you'd think he was Doug Jarvis after watching Carl Cokebottle.
     
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    In Response to Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap. : Yeah, and if Wheeler and Stuart each sign for $500K, all of the problems are solved. That's a big if, however.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    Figuring Wheels/Stewie for $4M for the two of them sorry shoul have been more specific.
     
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    Colaiacovo!  Wow.  If you think Ference has trouble staying in the line-up, you'd think he was Doug Jarvis after watching Carl Cokebottle.
    Posted by Bookboy007


    Can't go wrong with a Jarvis reference!

    Off Topic:  I thought Larmer was going to break the record.  Too bad Wirtz had to try to put the screws to him.
     
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    Colaiacovo!  Wow.  If you think Ference has trouble staying in the line-up, you'd think he was Doug Jarvis after watching Carl Cokebottle.
    Posted by Bookboy007


    BB, Defense in the NHL has a hazardous job description as I know you are aware
    having said that Colaiacovo has put together a couple of decent season after having some trouble with concussion and knee.  Carlo is being squeezed out by an excellent defensive core in SL.  He is the puck moving offensive defenseman that people see to crave much more than our friend AF.  You put him on the third pairing and use him as a PP specialist.  Comparison below although Ference logs more mins he gets a lot less points and as I mentioned CC minutes are down playing on a strong backline:
     
    Ference 31 Years old

    2007-0828Boston BruinsNHL5911415-14501000711.4131222:15
    2008-0929Boston BruinsNHL47115167400100721.4101221:32
    2009-1030Boston BruinsNHL51088-716000 600.0100519:42

    Colaiacovo 27


    2008-09262 TeamsNHL73327300353000873.4133318:16
    2008-0926Toronto Maple LeafsNHL10011-26000090.016916:52
    2008-0926St. Louis BluesNHL63326292293000783.8116418:29
    2009-1027St. Louis BluesNHL6772532860241 749.5115917:18


     
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    Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap.

    I know PC has done some head scratch signings, however what I do laugh at is all the geniuses on here who think that PC doesn't know how to handle the cap space. He majored in economics & has a law degree? Went to one of the most prestigious schools on the planet that accepts only 7-9 % of it's applicates! Which is Harvard btw. I think the guy is a tad smarter then most of us clowns on here! If the B's did get a penalty I think it would have to be more because of "beyond control" then just not knowing, or being stupid, or careless! I think the people who think any of the 3 latters are the ones who are stupid!

     
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    Well said Nitemare
     
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    In Response to Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap. : BB, Defense in the NHL has a hazardous job description as I know you are aware having said that Colaiacovo has put together a couple of decent season after having some trouble with concussion and knee.  Carlo is being squeezed out by an excellent defensive core in SL.  He is the puck moving offensive defenseman that people see to crave much more than our friend AF.  You put him on the third pairing and use him as a PP specialist.  Comparison below although Ference logs more mins he gets a lot less points and as I mentioned CC minutes are down playing on a strong backline:  
    Posted by Bostonfan4ever2010


    I'd prefer a powerplay specialist who has more than five career power play goals.
     
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    wah, wah, wah, ok, lets not give these guys bonuses and let them go to another team, then youd complain about that.  everyteam buys out players and gives bonuses, who cares.  quit whining you big babies, could chia do a better job? maybe, could he do alot worse?  see toronto.  but ill gaurantee one thing, you couldnt do better, so shut your pie hole, so sick of the negativity, if you wanna complain about something, complain about the collapse or something important other than these measily little things, i cant believe im wasting my time responding to this post, but even worse, i cant believe you started a thread that is so full of negativity and pointlessness
     
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    oh ya, and you forgot to mention that our gm should be a fortune teller unlike any of the other gms and never make a bad signing or bonus laden contract, cause thats the only way you wouldnt make a mistake right???
     
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    @Neely20005

    Dude slow down. You can be over the cap and pay the penalty. You just can't put a team on the ice that is over it. That's why I said "juggle the line up". I also said there would be another move made anyways. Why wouldn't there be. Some of you guys trash everyone on this team before they have a chance to come out the other side. I'm pretty sure 1.8 can be rectified pretty easily with one move. I can think of one right now that would dump it 3.5 right now, and take Sturm off the books completely. All he needs is a doctors note. Quit being so harsh on Chia, he's doing this team good. 
     
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    I can think of one right now that would dump it 3.5 right now, and take Sturm off the books completely. All he needs is a doctors note. Quit being so harsh on Chia, he's doing this team good. 
    Posted by BeantownBDH


    LMAO "all he needs is a doctors note"

    oh man we really have to get drugs off the streets
     
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    Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap.

    What is so funny about that ? They guy is a gimp with his knees. When is he expected to return ? any word on that.

    All he has to do is agree, and the insurance will cover most of his contract, and he will be taken off the books.

     
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    Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap.

    There is a procedure the NHL has to go through to get a player's contract voided due to injury. It's a lot more than a doctor's note. The insurance company has a say in the matter as well.

    The Colaiacovo debate can be put to rest as well. He is likely re-signing with the Blues.
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=533816
     
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    I'm pretty sure with his history of injury, he stands a pretty good chance of winning any argument the NHL would bring forth. They do believe in player safety, so I don't see how it would or could be an issue, if he decided to step down. It's a sure shot dump if he allows it. It's all up to him, but who knows, he still may want to play. Heaven for bid, he may still want to play.
     
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    What is so funny about that ? They guy is a gimp with his knees. When is he expected to return ? any word on that. All he has to do is agree, and the insurance will cover most of his contract, and he will be taken off the books.
    Posted by BeantownBDH


    He's expected back in early December.  I'm going to guess that the 31-year old isn't ready to retire, so he probably won't lie about being injured to help the B's with cap problems.

    Dang it, I thought we put this stupid notion to bed.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: ANOTHER CHIARELLI BLUNDER: $1,759,795 in penalties charged to this seasons cap. : Oh Paully lol... I'd love for you to elaborate on this with a few examples...
    Posted by BoonieMcKutchins[/QUwith OTE] I refuse to debate with someone who thinks a paper bag over a person head is what (true) bruin fans do.
    Take the blinders off every now and again and you would be able to see what I'm talking about.
    Also go to your dictionary and look up the word research, apparently that word blew right over that bag on your head.
     

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