1. You have chosen to ignore posts from McKodiak5. Show McKodiak5's posts

    Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 4:18 PM EDT

    James Murphy tweeted: "I am hearing again that the Bruins have interest in Bieksa. Not sure what the Canucks would want but they once had interest in Ryder as UFA"

    Ryder and Hunwick for Bieksa sounds good to me. That way the youth have a spot to fight for during the pre-season. It'd be nice to see Caron or Colborne make the team.

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 4:23 PM EDT

    I don't hate Bieksa, and almost anything that gets rid of the Ryder of last year is a good thing, but I'd rather not lose Hunwick. I think he's about to be an impact player.

    Also the Canucks are more than two million over the cap now, and have nine defensemen under contract. I doubt they'd want to take two salaries that would push them 2 mil higher.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 4:31 PM EDT

    Canucks looking about 3.5m over cap from what I see, they only pull off a trade like this for prospects or even money, we can't fit that that contract either...
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 7:55 PM EDT

    I would love to see Bieksa in a B's uni.  he actually liked the Bruins growing up and would love to be able to join the B's.  He is accountable and tough, just watch any of his fights, and he has solid O-skills.  Almost a Mark Stuart with puck-moving/scoring abilities.

    Ryder is the obvious choice to go back and Van could use him, however as stated, Van is over the salary cap already.  Could there be a third team in play on this trade? Maybe someone else is looking to get Hunwick, Ference, or Salo out of the deal as well as a pick or prospect to take salary from Van.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 7:58 PM EDT

    And who makes up for the 18 goals we lose in Ryder? I'm not saying it is a lot, but this is the same team that finished last in scoring last season (when we didn't get a scorer to replace Kessel from the previous season!)
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 8:22 PM EDT

    I guess I'll repeat the "Too much money going back to Vancouver" posts. If Chiarelli moves Hunwick during camp then Matt returns to pre spleen injury Hunwick I'll be bummed.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 8:24 PM EDT

    every time i see a thread started with bruins have interest in some player
    it never happens ; if i don't want a player here all i have to start a thread  saying "bruins have interest in so so" , this way i know he ain't coming
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 10:15 PM EDT

    Nobody.

    Wants.

    Ryder.

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/17/2010 10:29 PM EDT

    First off no want wants Ryder....NO ONE.  And for those of you who say Bieksa is nothing special obviously don't watch him enough.  He is a true warrior and battles for everything he is worth out there.  He also would be on our 1st line PP .  He does take untimely PIMS from time to time...but he does so b/c of he battles.  Something Chara could watch and learn. 

    Bieksa may be a salary dump...but I sure hope we kind find a spot for him.  He would be a very nice blend with Stuart...
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 1:35 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.:
    Keep Hunwick...He is our best skater and one of the best skaters in the League.
    Posted by rockett7


    That's a bit aggressive.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 4:59 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.:
    Keep Hunwick...He is our best skater and one of the best skaters in the League.
    Posted by rockett7


    Amen brother    (though Paille is a pretty slick skater too).  Hunwick has all the potential to become a Gonchar- Coffee type rushing D-man.  It appears that Bruins management is committed to working with him in his development.  This fan, for one, hopes so.

    I'd rather see Ference cut loose, if we are trading a defenseman.  That would offer more cap relief.  Ference can execute some slick D moves, but his offense never seems to click.  Few shots get through.  Plus the injuries.  


     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 8:08 AM EDT

    Love Bieksa's play - wish we could figure out someway of getting him here. What is his cap hit?
    Bruinfaninnewjersey - We got that replacement this year in Horton.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 8:28 AM EDT

    He's supposed to solidy your D, not necessarily upgrade Stuart - he should reduce time for Hunwick on the ice, and be there for when Ference glass groin goes again.
    Much like every other rumor this year - i don't see this happening - but I would approve if it did.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 8:31 AM EDT


    Why would they trade Bieska for Ryder? They Canucks are OVER the cap already. They are probably looking to dump the 3.5M for some prospects.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 8:37 AM EDT

    Vancouver is not going to take ryder? End of disscussion. If they would i would do the deal in a second, but not going to happen.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 8:45 AM EDT

    Bieska is 3,750,000 contract for one year a lot of cap space to move around on the Bruins roster unless another team has interest in Ryder and Ference:

    Bieska to Bruins for a prospect most likely a forward or pick

    Teams that are looking for vet d man Ottawa SJ Mtl and Detroit = Ference (-2225000) in return Bruins get a prospect/pick

    Dal, Colu, Col, Ana, are some teams short on right wingers if one team from this group will take a chance on Ryder will be Dallas to be back playing with Robiero.
    Ryder (-4,000,000) Bst. return is a prospect and a buckett of KFC chicken

     Ryder/Ference = ( - 6,225,000) off space when Sturm returns 3,750,000 Bruins aprox. 2,475,000 in the positive
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 9:22 AM EDT

    From a twitter .... nuff said.

    Now ,  I say we send them Hamill back west although it'll take much more than that including draft pick.  Canucks are strapped to the cap as are the Bruins this is why it'll be hard for the two to make a deal.  Bruins on the otherhand can send a salary to AHL.

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 10:20 AM EDT

    Ference licks.  Trade that guy for John Blue and when he arrives send him to The P-Bruins.


    John BLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUEE

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 10:56 AM EDT

    Yes - watch Hunwick skate after the guy that just beat him and go in for a scoring opportunity! Hopefully he can find that offensive spark he had 2 years ago, that would at least make up for his defensive short comings. I feel like I've written the same thing about someone else before.....
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 11:07 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.:
    Aggressive...I think not...Thinking Zach Hamill is God is a bit aggressive...Watch Hunwick skate next time your at a game.
    Posted by rockett7


    Oh, watch him?  Is that they key?  Thanks!

    Yeah, I've watched him.  I've watched him get burned a million times on the outside as he does a matador routine. 

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 11:22 AM EDT

    Yeah obviously this deal isn't too realistic because Vancouver wouldn't take Ryder, but if we could trade Hunwick for Bieksa in some kind of a deal that would even the cap cost to both teams, I'd be all for it.

    Hunwick is far from one of the best skaters in the league.  He got beat by speed regularly last season.

    Why is Ferrence such a punching bag in these forums?  If we all agree that he's a bit overpaid and is not one of our top d-men, can we also agree that he is a solid contributor who pulls his weight on this team.  I like Ferrence.  Am I the only one?
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 11:31 AM EDT

    No Fletcher I like him too just not at 2.25 Mil and not as an injury ward hero.
     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 11:36 AM EDT

    Hunwick's problem is not speed. He is in the top ten percent of skaters.
    His problems are 1 confidence and 2 reading the play, those do get better after time, he's still played less than two full NHL seasons, and less than the 200 games most NHL folks say it takes to learn to play defense (well) at the NHL level.

    As it is, he's the best skater on the Bruins blueline, he's got the most accurate shot and is still young and cheap. I'm more than willing to give him another year on the Bruins roster.


    In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.:
    Yeah obviously this deal isn't too realistic because Vancouver wouldn't take Ryder, but if we could trade Hunwick for Bieksa in some kind of a deal that would even the cap cost to both teams, I'd be all for it. Hunwick is far from one of the best skaters in the league.  He got beat by speed regularly last season. Why is Ferrence such a punching bag in these forums?  If we all agree that he's a bit overpaid and is not one of our top d-men, can we also agree that he is a solid contributor who pulls his weight on this team.  I like Ferrence.  Am I the only one?
    Posted by Fletcher1

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 11:45 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.:
    Hunwick's problem is not speed. He is in the top ten percent of skaters.
    Posted by bandgbleeder


    How exactly is this quantified?

     

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    Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.

    posted at 8/18/2010 11:46 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa.:
    Hunwick's problem is not speed. He is in the top ten percent of skaters. His problems are 1 confidence and 2 reading the play, those do get better after time, he's still played less than two full NHL seasons, and less than the 200 games most NHL folks say it takes to learn to play defense (well) at the NHL level. As it is, he's the best skater on the Bruins blueline, he's got the most accurate shot and is still young and cheap. I'm more than willing to give him another year on the Bruins roster. In Response to Re: Boston has interest in Vancouver's Bieksa. :
    Posted by bandgbleeder


    But he gets beat by speed!  A lot.  Whenever he takes the inside away on defense, people go around him to the outside with speed. 

    Sure he can skate fast, but he can't defend fast skaters.  That's the point.  If you watch the games from last year he got beat cleanly a lot.

    Ryan Button is a great skater with speed, but he's not ready to defend NHL forwards.