Re: Bruins' CUP Window now closed
posted at 9/29/2009 11:30 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Bruins' CUP Window now closed
In Response to Re: Bruins' CUP Window now closed : We'll have to agree to disagree on several points. First of all, anyone would trade Lucic straight up for Kovalchuk. I said any conversation about Kovalchuk would START with Lucic. I'm Atlanta's GM, I'm asking for Lucic, maybe Wheeler, Rask and/or Hunwick, plus a couple of top draft choices, for Kovy, just to start. Would you give up a package like that? I wouldn't. As for Morris, take a look around the league and check out the salaries for healthy, big, puck-moving defensemen. They are probably the most precious commodities in the market today; his salary is pretty much average for his skill set. Same with Thomas - he is the Vezina Trophy winner, and his salary is average for his position. He goes UFA and believe me, he gets a lot more. I seriously don't get the pessism. We have a team, as I said, that most of the fans of other NHL teams would KILL for. I dunno, maybe Rick Pitino was right - Boston IS the Fellowship of the Miserable.
Posted by duinne
I'm willing to bet Atlanta would be willing to do Kovalchuck for less than what you described if only b/c they have an almost non-existent fan base that's getting smaller and would love to get his salary off the books. Would I do Lucic & Hunwick and a 2nd round pick for Kovy? Yes I would. Maybe not Rask b/c goalies are so critical and TT isn't getting any younger, but if Atlanta would bite on that other package I just described, I wouldn;'t even hesitate.
I don't deny TT is a relative bargain as a Vezina winner...I just think he would have signed for less had he been offered less. (BTW, I love TT and did so well before he won the Vezzy. I couldn;'t believe they traded for Manny when they did b/c Thomas was solid all that year...the problem that year was the team couldn't put any pucks in the net on offense to support him.)
As for Morris, I'm basing my assesment on his pretty lousy last couple of years in phoenix and his overall look as a big but not very mobile defenseman....remember that one of the biggest assets for today's D corps is getting back to retrieve pucks dumped into your own end with speed and precision then transitioning up-ice. Morris still has that killer slapshot on the PP but i;'m worried he will be a liability getting those pucks out of our own end. We'll see.
As for the Pitino comment--from my point of view, I see the reverse. I see fans giddy about being on the cusp of a cup when last year they got no closer than round 2 of the divisional playoffs and now they're w/out their top goal scorer. What evidence is there that this team is so much better than: The Caps, the Flyers, the Devils, The Penguins (and that's just in the East).....are they really so much better than Chicago or Detroit?
And finally, B's fans simply have a right to gripe about a franchise that has no title in 37 years, and has gotten past round ONE of the playoffs just TWICE in 11 years! This isn't Red Sox fans moaning about not getting a title last year, or Pats fans whining that 3 superbowls in the past 7 years wasn't enough, or even Celtics fans angry that they couldn't repeat w.out KG in the line-up!! This is a fan base that has suffered, and continues to, and is facing some of the highest ticket prices in the NHL with no real track record of success to justify those prices.
That is fair grounds for pessimism.