Cap space / Chara extension

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    Cap space / Chara extension

    What would happen to Chara's 7.5mil cap hit THIS year if he were extended for say, 4yr/20mil (just an example)?
    Would his cap hit this year go down or would it only affect next year and the remaining years?
    I only ask because if if something like this were to happen, and it would affect THIS years cap number, then his hit would go down to 5.5mil, saving 2 mil off the cap number which would solve that problem.
    I suppose the same could be said for Bergeron as well if he's extended.

    Anyone know the answer to this?
     
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    What would happen to Chara's 7.5mil cap hit THIS year if he were extended for say, 4yr/20mil (just an example)? Would his cap hit this year go down or would it only affect next year and the remaining years? I only ask because if if something like this were to happen, and it would affect THIS years cap number, then his hit would go down to 5.5mil, saving 2 mil off the cap number which would solve that problem. I suppose the same could be said for Bergeron as well if he's extended. Anyone know the answer to this?
    Posted by Wingnut11


    No contract can be changed.  If they extend him, it will start after the current deal ends.

    It's the Keith Tkachuk rule in the new CBA.
     
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    What would happen to Chara's 7.5mil cap hit THIS year if he were extended for say, 4yr/20mil (just an example)? Would his cap hit this year go down or would it only affect next year and the remaining years? I only ask because if if something like this were to happen, and it would affect THIS years cap number, then his hit would go down to 5.5mil, saving 2 mil off the cap number which would solve that problem. I suppose the same could be said for Bergeron as well if he's extended. Anyone know the answer to this?
    Posted by Wingnut11



    His cap hit is locked in for this year.  Nothing will affect that excluding a buyout or a Long term injury.
     
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    Re: Cap space / Chara extension

    Realizing the contract does not change, does the overall cap hit change if more years are added to average out?
     
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    Re: Cap space / Chara extension

    thanks
     
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    Realizing the contract does not change, does the overall cap hit change if more years are added to average out?
    Posted by paulyboy


    No.  Unless there is a buyout, the terms of the deal and the cap hit are concrete.
     
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    Re: Cap space / Chara extension

    I was thinking 3yr/18 million no higher than that? 
     
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    Re: Cap space / Chara extension

    Chara will sign the following extension or he will go to market and get something very similar: 7 yrs, $35M ($8M, $8M, $7M, $7M, $3M, $1M, $1M) for a $5M cap hit.  Here's my thinking.  Chara is 33.  This extension is his last chance to sign a long-term deal before hitting 35+ status.  Seven years takes him to 41 yrs old, and given that he isn't going to get smaller, is a freak about conditioning, has no history of catastrophic injuries,  he could well play it out.  He'll make $7M as a 37yr-old but drop to $3M at 38 - a pretty fair risk/reward at a time when even the most durable stars start to wear down.  The basics of that deal should hold up even in negotiations with a player who has a rep for squeezing his pennies - those salary dollars put him on par with Duncan Keith for the next two years, and slightly below Keith for the next two.  It's more than Lidstrom, and it's more than Pronger on average over the first four years (almost identical total dollars after 5 years, then about $1M more over 7).  All three of those guys have won Cups and don't have an 0/5 game 7 record. 

    The only way he doesn't accept a deal very much like this is if he wants to go to market to ensure he gets as much as possible (and if he does, this may still be the best offer), or if he thinks he'll still be a top-10 defenseman in the NHL at 38-41, or if ego dictates he be the highest paid defenseman.  The end of the CBA might play in as well - he may want $10 the first year, then 8, then 6 and 6 so that he's maxing his payout before a potential work stoppage.

    So - a deal that brings Chara back at a $5M cap hit.  Interested? 
     
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    Re: Cap space / Chara extension

    I wish to see no contracts that extend any player into his late 30s.
     
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    I wish to see no contracts that extend any player into his late 30s.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot



    Nor do I.
    I know I will get hammered on this one, but while I think Chara is a very, very good d-man, I don't think it is worth it for THIS team. All these big salaries are going to kill this team before long. I think he has the most trade value at this time and would rather see him traded so we can get everyone else on board ($$$ wise) as well as picking up other "pieces".

    Hypothetically, what do you think his value is?

     
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    With the exception of drew doughty, he is the best all around d man in the league...lock him up
    Posted by pbergeron37


    Duncan Keith and Chris Pronger, among others, might have a bone to pick with this statement.
     
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    With the exception of drew doughty, he is the best all around d man in the league...lock him up
    Posted by pbergeron37



    yeah, I say lock him up. The difference between Pronger and Chara is nominal. both slow, extremely physical/dominant, great shots on the powerplay.

    I do think Chara will last longer considering he keep himself in amazing shape



     
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    Re: Cap space / Chara extension

    I am not , nor have ever been a strong supporter of Chara. He is good , but in my view his game interferes with the growth and capabilities of the rest of the Bruins defense, and, the type of players the B's could attract. He is obviously the cornerstone of CJ's shut down system, but I would rather see a Chicago style that moves the puck better than the B's "around-the-boards" fall back. I'm of the opinion that the Bruins could have a more energized offense if the D was faster, better on the first pass and breakout. Unfortunately for me, CJ is in charge and Chara's style will remain.
     

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