Chiarelli's Planning

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    Chiarelli's Planning

    Once again Chiarelli's own decisions have hurt this team.

    This team's defense is fine its the offense that needs improving.  Just like last year with Kessel ( don't start on the Kessel trade I agree it was a great move) we are dangling our star offensive player because of the poor cap management.  How do we improve if we keep getting rid of limited offensive stars because of the signings of depth guys?

    Chiarellis came from an organization that signed its peripheral players before its stars.  That's what he seems to do here.  Signing Ference, Thornton and Recchi then saying you have a cap issue and need to trade Savard is ridiculous.  Do the Red Sox get rid of star picture because they have 5 good ones?  No unless its to field a need.  Well the Bruins do not have a need urgent enough to trade one of the top playmakers in the game. 

    You want to save cap get of rid of the players you can do without.  Sorry but Bergeron and Krejci have yet to prove they can shoulder the offensive load as a true #1 center like Savard.  Seguin would have way too much pressure to perform if he is the reason we get rid of Savard as well.

    By the way do you see the propaganda campaign begin just like last year with Kessel.  Same Globe writers, same anonymous whispers about what is said about the player in the  "locker room"

    Move Bergeron or Seguin to the wing.  Its one year.  It would be so short sighted if you do it now. Next year Ryder comes off the books and maybe someone will take Thomas off your hands before then.  Trade Wheeler someone will bite on that big kid who has less hits than Phil Kessel and disappears every playoffs. 

    Chiarelli you got the Bruins into this mess now its up to you to get them out, without trading Savard.
     
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    I couldn't disagree more with your points here.. Kessel is old news and we all know the real reason he left and had nothing to do with cap issues.. Chiarelli stated often that he had the money to sign Kessel, but it wasnt going to be at over $5mil.. and I agree with that.. Plus Kessel manouvred himself out of Boston..
    The return we got for him is short of highway robbery as it has turns out..

    One thing I like about Chiarelli is he doesnt stand pat and continues to upgrade the Bruins every year..and I like that.. This team is far from being a mess as you say..
     
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    The Bruins do not have a cap problem.  

    Bergeron and Krejci have proved they can shoulder the load.  See Buffalo in playoffs.  The two kids are young and, when healthy, are very capable.  

    Why do people feel that the Globe writers have any say in what PC does?  

    There is enough evidence with public remarks from Savard, that things are not so hunky dory.  Things happen that change scenarios.  When PC resigned Marc, he was relatively healthy, buying into the team concept, playing two way hockey, and eliminating stupid penalties.  Something changed this past year.  Everyone knows that the wingers on the team fell short of expectations and struggled to score goals.  Marc took it upon himself to throw his teammates under the bus and complain publicly about it.  Not only does this alienate his fellow teammates, it also takes a shot at the GM.  Top it all off with him throwing Sobotka and the coaching staff under the bus for the TMMOI penalty and not taking full responsibility and you have a BIG problem on your hands.  This is not the first time Savard has had attitude issues.  If you want to blame PC for re-signing him, go ahead, but trying to deal a multiple concussed, aging centerman, who is causing friction in the room, is not a bad decision.  He could not have planned for Savard to revert back to his old selfish attitude and getting knocked out by Cooke.  Now that these things have happened, he is doing what is best for the TEAM!
     
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    The Bruins do not have a cap problem.   Bergeron and Krejci have proved they can shoulder the load.  See Buffalo in playoffs.  The two kids are young and, when healthy, are very capable.   Why do people feel that the Globe writers have any say in what PC does?   There is enough evidence with public remarks from Savard, that things are not so hunky dory.  Things happen that change scenarios.  When PC resigned Marc, he was relatively healthy, buying into the team concept, playing two way hockey, and eliminating stupid penalties.  Something changed this past year.  Everyone knows that the wingers on the team fell short of expectations and struggled to score goals.  Marc took it upon himself to throw his teammates under the bus and complain publicly about it.  Not only does this alienate his fellow teammates, it also takes a shot at the GM.  Top it all off with him throwing Sobotka and the coaching staff under the bus for the TMMOI penalty and not taking full responsibility and you have a BIG problem on your hands.  This is not the first time Savard has had attitude issues.  If you want to blame PC for re-signing him, go ahead, but trying to deal a multiple concussed, aging centerman, who is causing friction in the room, is not a bad decision.  He could not have planned for Savard to revert back to his old selfish attitude and getting knocked out by Cooke.  Now that these things have happened, he is doing what is best for the TEAM!
    Posted by MeanE

    Well first off does beating a third seed that finished one position(5th) ahead of the Bruins in the first round prove anything? Second it was Julie Ann that threw Savard under the bus by blaming him for the loss in game seven in the post game press conference. What star would'nt be upset by that? Third I have seen Savard stick up for his teammates far more then others did for him after the Cooke hit.  Last but not least is Savard suffered through a injury filled season with the concussion just being the last one. Trading Savard would be a terrible mistake that puts the Bruins back into rebuilding mode again!!!!!
     
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    Defense is fine?? I would argue with that.. Mqcauid may be the only D man in the system right now to ever see any NHL play.. The bruins had only drafted 1 in the previous 2 drafts before taking 2 guys in the 7th round this year...
     
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    The Bruins do not have a cap problem.   Bergeron and Krejci have proved they can shoulder the load.  See Buffalo in playoffs.  The two kids are young and, when healthy, are very capable.   Why do people feel that the Globe writers have any say in what PC does?   There is enough evidence with public remarks from Savard, that things are not so hunky dory.  Things happen that change scenarios.  When PC resigned Marc, he was relatively healthy, buying into the team concept, playing two way hockey, and eliminating stupid penalties.  Something changed this past year.  Everyone knows that the wingers on the team fell short of expectations and struggled to score goals.  Marc took it upon himself to throw his teammates under the bus and complain publicly about it.  Not only does this alienate his fellow teammates, it also takes a shot at the GM.  Top it all off with him throwing Sobotka and the coaching staff under the bus for the TMMOI penalty and not taking full responsibility and you have a BIG problem on your hands.  This is not the first time Savard has had attitude issues.  If you want to blame PC for re-signing him, go ahead, but trying to deal a multiple concussed, aging centerman, who is causing friction in the room, is not a bad decision.  He could not have planned for Savard to revert back to his old selfish attitude and getting knocked out by Cooke.  Now that these things have happened, he is doing what is best for the TEAM!
    Posted by MeanE


    I agree completely with your post. But I think PC will get more value from trading Savard during or after next season, after Savard proves that he has overcome his concussion.
     
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    The Bs DO have a cap problem, the Bs defense is not fine, they have 5 chara, seids, boychuk,ferrence and hunwick.
    The cap space is affecting the Bs signing stuart and mcquaid and minus hunwick because he sux, they still have a problem on the D. Yes PC put himself in this position and will find a way to fix it. You could buy out ryder and save 2.6 this yr but then it would cost that much to replace that spot. you cant buyout TT, the predicament the Bs are in  is worse than we know.I have said it before and ill say it again, PC has to give alot to rid of a salary, picks and prospects are the ony way you can trade away a TT and Ryder.
     
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    For what's it worth, Leafs source says they've still not ``ever" spoken to Boston about potential trade for Marc Savard.

    Savard isn't going anywhere Ottawa doesn't have the cap space and Toronto has never spoken to Boston about Savard plus Kaberle would not be included in the deal. PC underestimated how hard it would be to trade TT and Ryder he doesn't want to include picks to rid himself of those 2 contracts.

    As far as planning Chiarelli's drafting or accumulating picks has been real, real good the last few years. Next year will be another good year for Peter as i don't see the Leafs or Wild getting much better.

    Cap Management/Planning the last 2 years has been pitiful! I will give PC benefit of the doubt that he hasn't messed up the 30Mil he has right now before re-signing Chara and Bergeron in the summer of 2011.
     
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    the red sox have gotten rid of manny ramierez and jason bay.....enough said  you wont see another title wout replacing them 2
     
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    Manny & Bay!  You are kidding, right?  They are prime examples as to why the Bruins would want to  get rid of Savard. LOL
     
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    Guys team defense is fine and offense is not.  Tops in team defense and bottom for offense statistically. 

    Sorry but I do not want the worst offense being led by Krejci and Bergeron and an 18 year old.  The reason they are so valuable is because they are a #2s.  Why would you bring a guy like Horton and ship out Savard? 

    His cap hit is 4 million!!!  Name some top ten scorers with such a cap hit???

    Moronic to trade him because you overpaid for Thomas, Ference, Ryder and etc...

     
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    Peter Chiarelli said the Bruins are in the market for a third goalie and another defenseman on the trade/free agent market
     
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    GNP - Everyone always talks about Team Defense, but nobody ever refers to offense as Team Offense.  Why is that?  The Bruins D went from 50 goals in 08-09 to 32 goals in 09-10.  Do the Forwards have nothing to do with the team being #1 in defense?

    Will Savard be a top ten scorer again, at his age, post concussion # too many?

    Moving Savard has absolutely nothing to do with Thomas, Ference, Ryder, or anyone else.  It has everything to do with Marc Savard's concussion and attitude last year.
     
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    It may become easier for the Bruins to trade Savard after July 1. At that point his no-trade clause changes, allowing the B's to deal him to a handful more teams. Also, clubs seeking more offense that can't find help in a thin free-agent crop (after Ilya Kovalchuk) may come calling for Savard.
     
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    I'm in synch with MeanE. Chia has been rebuilding a solid team. Every writer has indicated that Seguin is coming to a solid team, unlike Hall, who needs to lead the Oils out of the dungeon. Kreji and Bergie would be welcome on any team because they are sooo good in so many aspects. Savy is a playmaking passer, but he has not made too many wings look outstanding including Kessel who scored as many goals in Toronto as he did in Boston. Julien tried Sturm, Ryder, Satan,Marchand and Savvy did not click. Makes you wonder a bit. Cannot deny his pases on the PP, but defensively and in the faceoff circle, not so hot. So why not see who might want a passer. Go for it CHIA
     
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    Peter Chiarelli said he didn't have cap room to make a splash in free agency and said Paille non-tender was partially about arbitration
     

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