Re: Lucic will be the Man.
posted at 9/23/2010 5:54 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Lucic will be the Man.
[QUOTE]re-read what you just wrote....premium I meant high scoring league...80-90's when there was no trap. Maybe I worded it incorrectly...but by premium I meant that there were many 50 goal scorers. Maybe I used Premium our of context. "a sum above the nominal or par value of a thing." Lucic is not a pure goal scorer like Neely who had a rocket shot and could score from outside the circles. Lucic is more of an in the net crasher. And the comparison is wrong. Bottom line. For starters it is a different era. More skill is placed on todays game then ever before. Lucic is not fleet of foot and will have a hard time against a more skilled lineup. Lucic is easy to shut down b/c of this. Neely is in the HOF when you were permitted to water ski on people using the stick...if the old NHL games are ever on the NHL network you should watch and get a good laugh...the stuff they got away with was priceless. Gretzky and Mario would score 300 pts in todays NHL. In general I think players in Cam's days are head and shoulders above todays players. I just think there are more quality players in todays league. I may have to explain that one a little bit. Basically meaning the stars of yesterday were far better than the stars of today. But the league is much deeper now. Lucic is going to be a solid leader who can chip in 20-25 in his best yrs. He might tip 30 once in his career but I would be shocked/and pleasantly surprised if he did. I think he will always be suited for the playoffs. I like what we have in him. But I think people set the bar too high...and I don't think he is worth the 4 million they gave him at an early age. Make him earn his stripes 1st. cheers man
Posted by shuperman[/QUOTE]
Ok, putting a premium on something puts a high value to it, when gas is at a premium, it means the cost is up, not there are above average supplies of it. But thats mixing words and besides the point..
I completely disagree with the idea that players of the past era were superior, the entire nhl scoring is down, I would be willing to abide the lemiuex and gretzky are the stadard in which scorers are measured by, and in there prime could still be a force in todays league.. but they would put up far less points then they did in thier prime.. ESPN did a story on ovechkin's 65 goal season arguing that it was the strongest goal scoring season in NHL history based on the fact that he scored 65 goals when scoring was at 5.5 per game, verse gretzky's 92 goal season in which the average was something like 9.5 goals per game.. meaning in an era where scoring was up 170% over todays game, he actually only put up 140% of the total, if that makes sense.
Beyond that, players are faster, and stronger, the game is different I dont know that I believe gretzky could stay healthy in today's league, the fact is he would not be "hands off" superstar players get hit now a days, and hard..
I agree with you near completely on the analysis of the diffences of the two, but I think lucic can get stronger in some of those areas (keeping in mind the goal he scored 2 years ago from the top of the circle coming down the wing, how neely-esque was that?) and the fact is 40 goals from the top of the crease wouldstil be 40 work horse dirty goals, neely has a highlight reel of pretty one, but he earned most of the the hard way and just being hungry.. The bruins in general lacked the "hunger" to actually finish ugly ones last year...