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    Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 7:41 AM EDT

    Bruins winger Marco Sturm (out since Game 1 Philly series; knee) to start skating on his own this or next week. http://es.pn/9E8Giz
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 8:28 AM EDT

    ...raising the sticky question, what happens when he (and/or Savard) returns?

    Who goes?

    To early to say, but you gotta start wondering...
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 8:34 AM EDT

    Good to hear Sturm is progressing.
    Caron will be in Prov.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 8:41 AM EDT

    Well CCM I been thinning over this also Babaloo. My Quick Draw McDraw is still "doing all of thinning around here. "

    If the kid Sequin shows NHL readiness he will be put on the RW with Savy and LW will be a big question. Looch Krejci and Horton are off to good starting line.

    Which Bruin will be the best trade bait to make room ??????? Wheels Paille and Hunwick package for AHL prospects????????
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 9:22 AM EDT

    CapGeek is updating its calculator for next season, so I will have to go by memory on this: when both Savard and Sturm come back, they have to shed about $2.5M to get under the cap, and that's with Caron in the AHL and Seguin back in Juniors.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 9:36 AM EDT

    Jordan Caron could be returned to Providence,but because Tyler Seguin is an 18yr old after 9 games he either goes back to junior or stays with the big club.After 10 games he cannot be returned to juniors.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 10:51 AM EDT

    I know that the cap is calculated on a prorated basis, so if both, Savard and Sturm, miss a quarter of the season, I would think that the Bruins save just over one million on Savard and about 800k on Sturm for a total saving of ~1.8 million. I think the Bruins were 3.5 million over the cap with everyone's salaruy included, so they'd have to shed $1.7 million with the injury savings.

    So our options are to dump (A) Ryder (4 million), (B)Hunwick and Paille/Caron/Marchand/McQuaid (~2.1 million), (C) Ference (2.2 million), (D) Seguin (3.5 million and very, very unlikely).

    If we get rid of Ryder, that would make us cap compliant and give us an additional $1.3 million in cap space after factoring in Savard and Sturm. This would allow us to pick up a second line forward/second pairing D-man at the deadline. If we packaged in a Ference or Hunwick, we could probably upgrade that to a first line/first pairing player.

     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 11:05 AM EDT

    "Pro-rate" only works for players not on the team at all.  LTIR functions differently (as far as I can tell from the CBA, at least).  They don't save any salary, they are just allowed to exceed the cap with replacement players.

    So right now, the Bruins are using the entire cap, plus $4.9M.  That is under the $7.5M they are allowed to go over because of Savard and Sturm, so right now is okay.  If both miss 1/4 of the season, then when they come back the Bruins essentially have to get their roster to the point where 3/4 of the yearly salaries for the players on the roster <= $44.55M.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 11:13 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Marco Sturm:Update:
    "Pro-rate" only works for players not on the team at all.  LTIR functions differently (as far as I can tell from the CBA, at least).  They don't save any salary, they are just allowed to exceed the cap with replacement players. So right now, the Bruins are using the entire cap, plus $4.9M.  That is under the $7.5M they are allowed to go over because of Savard and Sturm, so right now is okay.  If both miss 1/4 of the season, then when they come back the Bruins essentially have to get their roster to the point where 3/4 of the yearly salaries for the players on the roster <= $44.55M.
    Posted by DrCC


    Yeah, you are right. LTIR is not prorated but lets you exceed. Feel kind of stupid for the above post, but glad you pointed that out. I think I might actually read the CBA soon lol.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 11:16 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Marco Sturm:Update:
    In Response to Re: Marco Sturm:Update : Yeah, you are right. LTIR is not prorated but lets you exceed. Feel kind of stupid for the above post, but glad you pointed that out. I think I might actually read the CBA soon lol.
    Posted by dc-bruins-fan

    Make sure you have a strong drink handy.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 11:23 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: Marco Sturm:Update:
    CapGeek is updating its calculator for next season, so I will have to go by memory on this: when both Savard and Sturm come back, they have to shed about $2.5M to get under the cap, and that's with Caron in the AHL andSeguin back in Juniors.
    Posted by DrCC


    Yes but by the time Sturm gets back in the lineup won't it be to late for Seguin to be sent back to juniors ?  Of course seeing he's progressing and not regressing.
    Caron and/or Marchand can be and will be sent down if need be.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 11:27 AM EDT

    Based on game #2 only, Ryder, Seguin, and Caron will stay when Sturm and /or Savvy return. Right now Savvy looks to be out longer than Sturm who could return in mid-Nov. If play continues as  well, the lines should stay at Lucic/Kreji/Horton; Marchand/Campbell/ Thornton; then it becomes more fluid with options like Sturm/Seguin/ryder or Sturm/Bergeron/Caron. So, what happens to Wheeler and Paille?? what about Recchi?? does he go back with Bergeron. Also, do the Bruins really need Thornton if Campbell/Lucic take care of attitudes, and what if Hunwick is replaced by McQuaid who can join Campbell and Lucic ? Also, does Ference hurting open up for Bartkowski?  Then what do the Bruins do when Savard is ready to come back??
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 11:46 AM EDT

    Bogie6 - Fererence is hurt already? Haven't read that anywhere.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 12:16 PM EDT

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    Bogie6 - Fererence is hurt already? Haven't read that anywhere.
    Posted by Espo72


    KPD mentioned a possible injury to Ference that might keep him out of yesterday's game in the Bruins Blog.  However, Ference ended up playing anyway.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 12:22 PM EDT

    Isn't it only a matter of time before Ference's groin starts acting up?
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 12:55 PM EDT

    Ryder - $4 mill - is gone if Sturm and Savard come back healthy and there is no other injuries, there's no way around it.

    After that, you need to choose 2 of the following to be sent down - Marchand, Caron, Paille, or Thorton. I say Caron and Marchand but I couldn't argue with Paille and Caron (in that instance, a trade of Paille). I think you have to send Caron down when Savy and Sturm come back since I think he would benefit from more ice time in Providence vs. pulling 4th line duty.

    Keep McQuaid as a healthy scratch and if need be, put Hunwick on 4th line forward duty and put McQuaid there.

    If the B's want, they can defer Seguin, Recchi, Caron, or Marchand's bonuses to next year and exceed the cap that way, I just don't think it's wise as it will hamstring you next year.

    Don't see Caron sticking when Savard and Sturm get back unless someone else gets hurt.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 1:14 PM EDT

    Ference is seriously injury prone. The man could cut himself with an eraser :P
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 1:42 PM EDT

    Not for nothing, but who cares.  Sturm is a 3rd line grinder on this team.  There are guys in Providence with more speed and better finish.  B's should buy him out.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 2:01 PM EDT

    Third line grinders don't score the most goals or a club in a year or are shoe ins for 20+ goals when they play a whole season.  

    Not for nothing, but you should think or research before you write. Paille or Marchand are a 3rd line grinders. Sturm is a goal scorer on a team that needs it.  
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 2:23 PM EDT

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    Not for nothing, but who cares.  Sturm is a 3rd line grinder on this team.  There are guys in Providence with more speed and better finish.  B's should buy him out.
    Posted by bim09

    Who in Providence is faster than Sturm?
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 2:41 PM EDT

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    Third line grinders don't score the most goals or a club in a year or are shoe ins for 20+ goals when they play a whole season.   Not for nothing, but you should think or research before you write. Paille or Marchand are a 3rd line grinders. Sturm is a goal scorer on a team that needs it.  
    Posted by nrguy

    Sturm's got two bad knee's on a 32 y.o. body.  I'd bet real money Sauve and Seguin are faster.  And I'll wait till April so Sturm won't completely embarass himself.

    He's a 3rd line grinder on this team.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 2:57 PM EDT

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471346

    http://thrashers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470834

    Need anymore research?  He's had only 3 seasons where he scored more than 23 goals.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 3:19 PM EDT

    I say Marchand...nothing personal.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 3:40 PM EDT

    If Ryder continues to play, as he did in game 2, he will stay. If he reverts to game 1 slog, he's probably gone. Still beleive it will be a challenge for PC and CJ. This can be a devestating Bruins team, with 4 lines with capable scorers when Sturm returns. Could mean Paille gone; Thornton gone, Wheeler traded plus Hunwick and Ference traded. Caron will stay if he continues to learn and more than hold his own with the puck. CJ may be forced into playing this hard-nosed kid who has good hands unlike Paille and Wheeler.
     

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    Re: Marco Sturm:Update

    posted at 10/11/2010 4:14 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Marco Sturm:Update:
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8471346 http://thrashers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8470834 Need anymore research?  He's had only 3 seasons where he scored more than 23 goals.
    Posted by bim09

    Sturm had 4 seasons of 27 goals or more(03,06,07,08)and also had 4 other seasons above 20 goals.Certainly not just a grinder.