Milbury's question to Savard - pre game

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    Cygnus - Best Post of the Thread!!

    No more to be said! Great back to back wins!
    Sean Avery -  please meet Mr. McGratton on Saturday!
     
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    Fletcher, I think the question was stupid, totally.  Made no sense.  When someone has a serious injury like a concusion (Ive had a couple too) you dont know how long it takes to recover, if ever.  My last one was over 13 years ago and I still get regular migraines and ALWAYS have medication with me incase one is triggered.  I also have dizzy spells.  Playing trains with my son on the floor this morning, stand up to get him a drink and the room starts spinning.  Svcks. 

    My point, and where I take issue, is when people are saying Savard is suffering from depression, the question was inapporpriate and insensitive, etc.  If thats the case, then he shouldnt be doing ANY interviews at all.  I dont think Milbury was out of line at all, I just thought it was a question that had no answer.  And the reason I get steamed about it is it seems like any famous person now can do what they want and nobody calls them out, unless they are "right-winged" and the libs call them out like crazy.  Look at Lindsy Lohan:  All the recent crap with her, her mother was interviewed by Matt Lauer and asked some "tough" questions, and then Lauer is being treated like the vilian.  Then Ellen on her show goes on to say we have an epidemic of bullying because 4 gay teens commit suicide?  Todays media is a joke and Im sick of all the politcal correctness BS, dont ask someone a tough question, etc.  It REALLY gets on my nerves and probably set me off a little.  Still, I wouldnt EVER tell someone to kill themselves for ANY reason, let alone a differing of opinion on a hockey forum.  Its totally inappropriate in every way, shape, form and THAT person has issues.
     
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    As I clearly stated: "telling you to kill yourself is just a device to show my disapproval, I don't actually want you to do so..... didn't think I would have to explain that--"


    But if it suits your red-herring counter, then by all means, ignore what I said.
     
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    Fletcher, I think the question was stupid, totally.  Made no sense.  When someone has a serious injury like a concusion (Ive had a couple too) you dont know how long it takes to recover, if ever.  My last one was over 13 years ago and I still get regular migraines and ALWAYS have medication with me incase one is triggered.  I also have dizzy spells.  Playing trains with my son on the floor this morning, stand up to get him a drink and the room starts spinning.  Svcks.  My point, and where I take issue, is when people are saying Savard is suffering from depression, the question was inapporpriate and insensitive, etc.  If thats the case, then he shouldnt be doing ANY interviews at all.  I dont think Milbury was out of line at all, I just thought it was a question that had no answer.  And the reason I get steamed about it is it seems like any famous person now can do what they want and nobody calls them out, unless they are "right-winged" and the libs call them out like crazy.  Look at Lindsy Lohan:  All the recent crap with her, her mother was interviewed by Matt Lauer and asked some "tough" questions, and then Lauer is being treated like the vilian.  Then Ellen on her show goes on to say we have an epidemic of bullying because 4 gay teens commit suicide?  Todays media is a joke and Im sick of all the politcal correctness BS, dont ask someone a tough question, etc.  It REALLY gets on my nerves and probably set me off a little.  Still, I wouldnt EVER tell someone to kill themselves for ANY reason, let alone a differing of opinion on a hockey forum.  Its totally inappropriate in every way, shape, form and THAT person has issues.
    Posted by bigvig


    Well I am sorry to hear about your concussions and I appreciated the thoughtful response.  Apologies for the strong words earlier in the thread.  Bringing politics into these discussions has always been a pet-peeve of mine and that's what got my dander up.  I don't see this as an issue of political correctness, so much as just having the judgement to ask a reasonable question to someone who is obviously in a tough spot.  I might agree with you that Savard should just avoid the media completely  -- it is kind of painful to watch anyhow because his anguish seems so close to the surface.  Milbury appeared to have no recognition of that.
     
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     It just reminds me that that dirtbag Cooke ought to be banned from hockey!
     
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    In Response to Re: Milbury's question to Savard - pre game : Saying that Savard is a grown man who can control his feelings shows that you probably have not had any direct experience with the crippling effects of depression (that's a good thing, by the way).  That is just the point, the depression controls YOU and there is no timetable on when it will subside.  Sure, doctors and meds will help, but the timetable of when patients improve varies greatly from person to person. I still think it was a lousy question by Milbury because he sould have known that there really is no certain date that Savvy could have given for his return.  It's not like it's a broken wrist that will heal in 6-8 weeks.
    Posted by hangnail


    The instant the words were out of Milbury's mouth I thought "now why did you ask that?" because even before Savard reacted I knew he'd be upset. Seriously, that was a particularly stupid question, though I don't think Milbury was asking it to be mean - he just did what he often does: Engaged his mouth before his brain.

    I'm sure the entire evening was one big emotional roller coaster for Savard, and holding himself together for the TV cameras was obviously difficult. I'm just glad the team is back from their endless road trip and can give him some of the emotional support he undoubtedly needs.
     
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    It's all Milbury has left now be disagreeable to be disagreeable. He's what Walton was when analyzing the NBA or Theisman and Salisbury in the NFL the too much pepper when thier doesn't need to be. Sometimes Mike wants to be Bill Parcells when addressing players injuries "Oh she's doing fine" it's a bad impersonation of old school toughness.

    Milbury knows what people think of his disaster of an attempt at GM duties on the island. Lebrun laughed at Milbury last week on HNIC Hot Stove when Mike criticized long term contracts while the Islanders still have Yashin's contract on their books hmmm

    Overall I don't think the questions were too harsh but Mibury will never know what it's like to go through what Savard is going through doctors are having trouble trying to pinpoint time tables and cures for PCS.
     
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    As over-the-top bombastic as Millbury usually is, the question seemed as delicately presented as he is capable of.  He is nothing if not overconfident, and he doesn't seem to relate well to people who are not like him.  That he was insensitive to a player who is having depression issues is no surprise. 

    That said, he was asking a question to which many fans would like an answer.  While I didn't like seeing Savard struggle with it, his response made me realize just how hard of a time he is having right now.  It's too bad that depression has such a social stigma that Savard himself couldn't come right out and say the word during the interview.  "Emotional" is as close as he could get. 

    In hindsight, Savard has been in Boston long enough to know what Millbury is about, and might have been wise to avoid Mad Mike while he is depressed.  Like his return to the playoffs last spring, he probably thought that he was well enough to get through it.  Hopefully the team and its' fans are patient with Savard, as his brain chemistry has obviously been altered.
     
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    OlsonicCreations What the flip dude, I love it when you liberal/socialists go off. The argument is over before it begins... NAUSEA/VOMIT
    WAAAAAAAAA if you don't agree with me go "hang your self"???? And further more...Dogma?? who do you think invented science. God, ya I said it.
     
    "I love your "bleeding heart liberal" comment, too. Liberals--who subscribe to a political affiliation that is ripe with scientific knowledge and secular values-- are far more likely to respect the judgement of doctors/psychiatrists/scientists and therefore much more likely to be cautious around someone like Marc Savard who is clearly still suffering from depression. Why is that a good thing? Because we understand context and appreciate the seriousness of his condition, but more importantly, we just don't want to cause him any additional harm."

    Values??? don't you fools support a woman's right to kill their unborn children...

    Sorry I just can't take another second of the insanity. I apologist to the board and will now excuse myself.
     
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    Whether he is upset, or depressed, or sad or pefectly fine and just faking (not the case of course), Savard should have expected to be asked the question.  What the heck else would the subject be?

    "So, Marc, yeah.  Brain injury, huh?  Wow, yeah.  So, what do you think about Tom Brady's hair?"


     
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    Whether he is upset, or depressed, or sad or pefectly fine and just faking (not the case of course), Savard should have expected to be asked the question.  What the heck else would the subject be? "So, Marc, yeah.  Brain injury, huh?  Wow, yeah.  So, what do you think about Tom Brady's hair?"
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    The subject of the question (concussions) is fine.  But asking a question that any intelligent person knows cannot possibly be answered is a little stupid.
     
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    In Response to Re: Milbury's question to Savard - pre game : So let me get this straight you do not think teenagers committing suicide is worthy of discussion.  I assume your one of these neoconsevratives who long for a better time when it was ok for a white man to shoot a black man or a man to beat his wife.  Please don't talk politics hear or I will tell you to go back to your cave.
    Posted by Orrthebest


    This is the worst post I've ever read...you're implying that conservatives shoot black men and beat their wives ????? It's a shame to have to see Bobby Orr's name associated with such a piece of garbage  -

    "Begin every day with peace and love in your heart."
      you can't be serious??? You mean that for everyone else but you- right??? Just go away -

    YOU NEED TO BE BANNED FROM THIS FORUM
     
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    Yeah, and then I'm afraid carloaz has then gone crazy on the other side.  What this post needed was your opinion on abortion spelled out for us.  Idiot.  Kill the thread and go elsewhere to grandstand on politics -- this is a hockey board.
     
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    I'd bet you know what color we all vote...my favorite color is clear...you JACKA$$, check your med's. So you think you're the only one to have a concussion? So, now you're the expert? holy cow, the world does NOT spin on the end of your nose. I'd hate to be your kid...THERAPY

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    No kidding, what an idiot.  Way to make it into a political rant you freakin bleeding-heart moron.  Guess we know what color you vote.  Talk about a kool-aid drinker.  Guys like you are the problem with this country, not me.  You dont know ANYTHING about me, dont pretend to.  If he is "suffering" with depression (I went through depression when my college career was ended due to an injury, and I lost my FULL scholarship I was on thanks to hockey) I was on medication that CORRECTED it.  If Savard is clinically depressed, there are doctors and meds that will help him.  If he is so depressed he cannot answer questions, he shouldnt be doing ANY interviews.  Get a clue.
    Posted by bigvig

     
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    I still can't understand why people are all up in arms here about this.  This topic has spiraled 100% out of control.

    Big deal.  Milbury asked him if he had doubts about being able to come back.  So what.  Move on.

    It's threads that begin like this that turn into the stupidity above that keep many knowledgable posters away from this group.
     
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    And another thing.  You, and people like you, are the biggest hypocrites there are.  You say have compassion for someone suffering from PCS, but then you tell others who dont agree with it to kill themselves!?  NICE!  Typical lefty:  If you dont agree with someone you attack them.  Gotta love it.  Your posts have been reported and Ive put you on my ignore list.  Youre a waste of my time.
    Posted by bigvig



    reading your post shows me that what type of person you are wich is good because from now no one will take you seriously any more cause your a moron
     
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    It's threads that begin like this that turn into the stupidity above that keep many knowledgable posters away from this group.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot



    **yawn**

    Google is more "knowledgeable" than all of us combined. All that is posted here is typical fan-boy opinion pieces, people who read the box-score, look at the standings, know how to quickly find the latest information, and genuinely love the game and care about the Bruins. There is nothing wrong with that at all, I'm a fan-boy too.

    We're just normal bruins fans, not here to have pissing contests over who sounds the best when talking about hockey. Once people start talking about strategy, systems, advanced statistics like they do on legit hockey boards--then we can start acting like we could go coach somewhere.





     
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    Milbury s_cks.  Completely lost respect for him after he whined about how the crowd was booing Wideman, because it would hurt is feelings.  The guy is a douch_e.
     
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    No kidding, what an idiot.  Way to make it into a political rant you freakin bleeding-heart moron.  Guess we know what color you vote.  Talk about a kool-aid drinker.  Guys like you are the problem with this country, not me.  You dont know ANYTHING about me, dont pretend to.  If he is "suffering" with depression (I went through depression when my college career was ended due to an injury, and I lost my FULL scholarship I was on thanks to hockey) I was on medication that CORRECTED it.  If Savard is clinically depressed, there are doctors and meds that will help him.  If he is so depressed he cannot answer questions, he shouldnt be doing ANY interviews.  Get a clue.
    Posted by bigvig


    BigVig:  it was YOU who brought politics into this discussion, not Olsonic. 

    BigVig wrote earlier in this thread:  "Its like every reporter has turned into some spineless, yellow-bellied, bleeding-heart liberal who...".  Yet he then has the gall to try to blame Olsonic ("...Way to make it into a political rant you freakin bleeding-heart moron....") for turning this into a political debate?

    Unfortunately no one here's as stupid as BigVig would like to think.  It is YOU, BigVig, who should "get a clue".    
     
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