Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player

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    I'm not just saying this because of the "too many men" penalty, which was pretty much his fault.  Actually, this thought has been in my mind for a while now, I just haven't gotten around to posting it.  KREJCI is the Bruins best offensive player, not Savard. 

    I don't understand why people weren't worried when Krejci got injured.  Sure, the Bruins were up 2-0 in the series, but Krejci had been centering the Bruins' most productive line.  Now, there was some panic, but it was nothing compared to that of the Matt Cooke incident.  When Savard went down, everybody counted the Bruins out; they said the Bruins couldn't even make the playoffs.  But when Krejci went down, everything was fine.

    But this post isn't to talk about how "bad" Savard is, because he is not a bad player.  Rather, it's to talk about how amazing Krejci is.  He does everything that Savard can do, and more.  Krejci is more physical, makes smarter passes, has a better shot, and can singlehandedly outmuscle opposing players while skating with the puck.  Savard, as great as he is, can be way too spazzy.  If someone could maybe give the guy some ritalin, he would be much better off. 

     
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    You can't really compare the loss of Savard to the loss of Krejci as easily as that.  Krejci was still playing at a high level when Savard went down.  Savard hurried back well before he was 100%.  Krejci going down and Savard playing in a diminished capacity is what killed the team.  If Savard was anywhere near 100% the Bruins wouldn't have looked so bad over their last four games. 
     
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    Yes, it was only Savard's 7th game back, but it's not a coincidence that the Bruins lost their next 4 games after Krejci went down.  And even during the regular season, Krejci was consistently playing better than Savard.
     
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    they never really found the right line combos with savard this season.  i think that (and the injuries) is the reason that savvy had a sub-par season.
     
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    they never really found the right line combos with savard this season.  i think that (and the injuries) is the reason that savvy had a sub-par season.
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    You definitely could make that argument, but regardless, I think Krejci is the better player.  Savard should definitely improve next year, but I expect Krejci to do the same.
     
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       Talking about the most offensive bruin this year, is like talking about who will finish first in a turtle race.
     
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    2 important things to remember about Savvy this season:

    1-  All year long- he was battling to come back from one injury or another.

    2- The team couldn't acquire a superior forward to play with him.  Between injuries, he was paired with people like Bitz, Wheeler, and Ryder...None of these guys are good complements to one of the best passers in the game.
     
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    I'm just making the point that Krejci didn't have an "elite" forward to pass to, but still managed to put up great numbers.
     
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    Savard has gotten too arrogant.  He's not as good as he maybe once was.
     
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    Savard has gotten too arrogant.  He's not as good as he maybe once was.
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    I don't know if arrogant is the right word.  It's more like "way too self-confident".  But you're right.  I don't know how many times I've seen I'm attempt 360 no-look passes.  Which is the exact reason why I like Krejci better.  He is 9 years younger than Savard, but plays like a veteran: creative, but always smart with the puck.
     
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    I don't think we have to say that Savvy is bad in order to compliment Krejci.  Savvy had an off years and for plenty of reasons.  Krejci is a very good forward who had a better year than Savvy.  Doesn't mean one is good and one is bad. 

    I look forward to seeing what they can both do next year when they are healthy the entire season.
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : I don't know if arrogant is the right word.  It's more like "way too self-confident".  But you're right.  I don't know how many times I've seen I'm attempt 360 no-look passes.  Which is the exact reason why I like Krejci better.  He is 9 years younger than Savard, but plays like a veteran: creative, but always smart with the puck.
    Posted by TimThomas-god


    Krejci also plays physical which Savard will never do.  That said, let Savard be the #1 center and let Krejci, as the #2, sneak in and give the B's two solid lines of attack.

    WE NEED FAST AND ASSERTIVE WINGS!
     
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    I don't think we have to say that Savvy is bad in order to compliment Krejci.  Savvy had an off years and for plenty of reasons.  Krejci is a very good forward who had a better year than Savvy.  Doesn't mean one is good and one is bad.  I look forward to seeing what they can both do next year when they are healthy the entire season.
    Posted by stingerjp

    Well put. 

    I hope that Savard's head clears completely over the summer.  It was apparent upon his return that neither his mental quickness nor his vision were close to what they were before his concussion.  Remember how long it took Bergeron to clear up.  Bergy's second concussion was from him having a brainfart and skating straight into Seidenberg face-first.
     
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    I hope Savard gets completely healthy again and gets the want to be the best back again. Krejci IMHO has what it takes to be one of the best centers in the NHL. He possesses what it takes to back opposing players off and the speed he has is underrated. His puck control and stick control seperates him from every other current Bruin. I say current for if the B's wind up with Hall he should play on Krejci's wing.
     
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    How quickly we forget.

    I like Krejci, we all do, but remember that he didn't have a good year.  Krejci only played well after being energized by his fine play during the Olympics.  Krejci should be B's #1 center for many years to come, but if we wind up with Seguin, that could change.

    Savard's the only 100-point player on the B's.  If he ever gets a decent winger and a return to good health (his knee remains a concern), he could be again.  And please don't say Kessel was that winger, not at $5.5 million per year for 5 years without playing 2-ways, participating on off-season workouts, inconsistent effort and being a problem in the room.  I didn't hear a single Bruin say they were sorry to hear Kessel was traded, did you?  'Nuff said.
     
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    I'm not just saying this because of the "too many men" penalty, which was pretty much his fault.  Actually, this thought has been in my mind for a while now, I just haven't gotten around to posting it.  KREJCI is the Bruins best offensive player, not Savard.  I don't understand why people weren't worried when Krejci got injured.  Sure, the Bruins were up 2-0 in the series, but Krejci had been centering the Bruins' most productive line.  Now, there was some panic, but it was nothing compared to that of the Matt Cooke incident.  When Savard went down, everybody counted the Bruins out; they said the Bruins couldn't even make the playoffs.  But when Krejci went down, everything was fine. But this post isn't to talk about how "bad" Savard is, because he is not a bad player.  Rather, it's to talk about how amazing Krejci is.  He does everything that Savard can do, and more.  Krejci is more physical, makes smarter passes, has a better shot, and can singlehandedly outmuscle opposing players while skating with the puck.  Savard, as great as he is, can be way too spazzy.  If someone could maybe give the guy some ritalin, he would be much better off. 
    Posted by TimThomas-god


    I have been under the opinion for a while now that Marc Savard is not on the same level with David Krejci. I felt that way before Savard's injury. I am simply not a fan of his allround game.

    As for the playoffs. Let me premise this by saying that I understand Savard's lack of offence in the playoff's as he was clearly not 100%. A serious concussion is a tough injury to return from physically & mentally. So I understand the lack of offence & I give him a pass for that.

    However, I will not give him a pass for his undiscipline & selfish play he brought to this series. He took lazy, careless & dumb penalties in this series. He has a history of this even before the concussion problems. He was also responsible for the too many men on the ice penalty that essentially was the final nail in the coffin.

    That takes me to the "veteran" leadership issue on this team. Selfish, undisciplined penalties are not a way to show good leadership. When a team has a 3 - 0 series lead & blow it I believe the leadership in the room & on the ice has to be questioned. Savard is now 32 yrs old & the Bruins signed him for the next 7 years which is a story in itself. I have no idea what goes on in the room but Savard as one of the veteran leaders failed miserably in that department.

    As for Savard vs Krejci. No comparison. Savard is becoming a PP specialist. When the games get tough & physical he has a lot of trouble. On the PP where he has more room he can be effective but is that really what you want from a guy who some people consider the # 1 center? Savard has trouble creating his own offence & was not able to bring out the best in the wingers he played with this season & certainly missed Kessel more then Kessel missed him. He can make some great passes but also makes some very low % plays that create bad turnovers. He is also not very good in the defensive zone & on the backcheck in comparison to Krejci & Bergy. I will admit Savard is a skilled offensive player with great vision but he has huge holes in his game like Kessel. He can also be selfish in the discipline department.

    IMO Krejci is this teams # 1 center going forward. Ridiculous puck possession skills & vision with an extremely high hockey IQ. He makes players around him better & has the ability to create his own offence. Kills penalties & his line this season seemed to be the only line that could create offence on a consistent basis at even strenght. Krejci is also a very good defensive player. He also really helps the transition game as he always appears to be in good position defensively to give our dmen a strong option in the transition game.

    The guy is a stud & his injury in the playoffs showed how important he is to this team. IMO he is one of the most underated players in the league in both areas of the ice. All this after coming off of major hip surgery last season. So I agree whole heartedly with the OP in that Krejci is much better then Savard right now. If the Bs get a top flight winger they should put him with Krejci as opposed to Savard.

    Also, lets not forget that David Krejci is 9 years younger then Marc Savard & makes less money. Hopefully Savard's contract won't hinder the Bs ability to resign Krejci in 2 yrs time. I don't think it will as Krejci is just to important. That 7 yr Savard deal is extremely scary for me though.
     
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    How quickly we forget. I like Krejci, we all do, but remember that he didn't have a good year .  Krejci only played well after being energized by his fine play during the Olympics.  Posted by BruinsCountry


    When Krejci had his surgery in June, the doctors told him it would be four to six months before he could return to the ice. He was back in the lineup four months to the day of his surgery. Admirable and impressive, but obviously too soon. I watched him closely during a game I attended in November and he was nowhere near 100%. He wasn't energized by the Olympics; he was energized by a return to full health, which happened around Christmas.

    That said, there is no reason to disparage Krejci and praise Savard, nor vice versa. They are both superb offensive players, and the Bruins are incredibly fortunate to have such strength (combined with Bergeron, and Sobotka, who will be a fine checking center) down the middle. You build a team around guys like that.

    Anyone who complains about Savard isn't taking into account that he spent almost the entire season injured, from a broken foot in training camp (that he tried his best to play through), to an injured knee, to the concussion.

    To get back to the OP, in relation to the playoffs, IF Savard had been at full health, the Bruins probably could have beaten the Flyers. But with the loss of Krejci and the fact that Savard was at half strength (at best), they were in big trouble. The loss didn't happen because of lack of heart or character, it happened because they lost the guy who was running on all cylinders (both offensively and defensively), and the guy they hoped could replace him couldn't get his body/brain to cooperate. I for one was certain when the Bruins lost Krejci they were in HUGE trouble; I hoped they could sneak out a win and get past the Flyers, but I figured they would never make it through the next round without him.

    One last thing, regarding the post above: Savard's contract was a very cap-friendly signing, designed specifically so the Bruins would be able to re-sign key components, such as Krejci. He actually lowered his cap hit from his current contract. For his ability/status, it's a very good deal for the Bruins, and evidence that Savard wants not only to stay here, but to be part of a winning team.
     
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : When Krejci had his surgery in June, the doctors told him it would be four to six months before he could return to the ice. He was back in the lineup four months to the day of his surgery. Admirable and impressive, but obviously too soon. I watched him closely during a game I attended in November and he was nowhere near 100%. He wasn't energized by the Olympics; he was energized by a return to full health, which happened around Christmas. That said, there is no reason to disparage Krejci and praise Savard, nor vice versa. They are both superb offensive players, and the Bruins are incredibly fortunate to have such strength (combined with Bergeron, and Sobotka, who will be a fine checking center) down the middle. You build a team around guys like that. Anyone who complains about Savard isn't taking into account that he spent almost the entire season injured, from a broken foot in training camp (that he tried his best to play through), to an injured knee, to the concussion. To get back to the OP, in relation to the playoffs, IF Savard had been at full health, the Bruins probably could have beaten the Flyers. But with the loss of Krejci and the fact that Savard was at half strength (at best), they were in big trouble. The loss didn't happen because of lack of heart or character, it happened because they lost the guy who was running on all cylinders (both offensively and defensively), and the guy they hoped could replace him couldn't get his body/brain to cooperate. I for one was certain when the Bruins lost Krejci they were in HUGE trouble; I hoped they could sneak out a win and get past the Flyers, but I figured they would never make it through the next round without him. One last thing, regarding the post above: Savard's contract was a very cap-friendly signing, designed specifically so the Bruins would be able to re-sign key components, such as Krejci. He actually lowered his cap hit from his current contract. For his ability/status, it's a very good deal for the Bruins, and evidence that Savard wants not only to stay here, but to be part of a winning team.  
    Posted by duinne


    I agree it is a very cap friendly hit to help the Bruins sign key components going fwd. I also realize that his caphit next season actually goes down. My problem with it is it is for to many years. 7 yrs is a longtime for a 32 yr old who has holes in his game. I just felt that the Bs got the peak years from Savard in his contract that just expired. I felt they could have utilized that 4 million elsewhere.

    Lets not forget that we are likely to draft Seguin. For him to have room to develop properly the Bs will likely have to move a center. With Krejci, Bergy & Savard all centerman it would be unfair to expect Seguin to move to the wing when he is a natuaral centerman. Krejci is our best center & Bergy our best faceman & shutdown center. Maybe Savard could move to leftwing to get better value & allow Seguin to develop in the middle. However, I wouldn't know if Savard can make the adjustment.
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : I agree it is a very cap friendly hit to help the Bruins sign key components going fwd. I also realize that his caphit next season actually goes down. My problem with it is it is for to many years. 7 yrs is a longtime for a 32 yr old who has holes in his game. I just felt that the Bs got the peak years from Savard in his contract that just expired. I felt they could have utilized that 4 million elsewhere. Lets not forget that we are likely to draft Seguin. For him to have room to develop properly the Bs will likely have to move a center. With Krejci, Bergy & Savard all centerman it would be unfair to expect Seguin to move to the wing when he is a natuaral centerman. Krejci is our best center & Bergy our best faceman & shutdown center. Maybe Savard could move to leftwing to get better value & allow Seguin to develop in the middle. However, I wouldn't know if Savard can make the adjustment.
    Posted by Newfiebullet


    Seguin can, and has, played all three forward positions (as has Hall, BTW), and has had no trouble playing wing. Chiarelli has made a point of saying that, more than once (as has Sequin). Kessel was a "natural" center. Joe Colborne, another "natural" center, played wing the entire year this seson at Denver. It's not unfair to move Seguin to wing; going by what Chiarelli has said for public consumption, I'm quite certain that if the Bruins do draft him, that's exactly what they'll do.

    As for Savard, I don't see any holes in his game when he's healthy. He was something of a defensive liability in his early years, but he worked on his shortcomings under Julien and now even plays on the PK. Yes, he's 32, but his game relies on smarts, guile and pinpoint passing, not speed or strength. The latter two gifts often decline with age, the art of setting up your teammates does not.

    At any rate, the contract was set up so that if he does decide to hang them up with a year or two remaining, the hit is minimal (less than $1 million, I believe). Again, it was deliberately drawn up that way, as are comparative contracts for other older players around the league. It's something of a loophole that the NHL is looking to close, but unless they win that fight in the CBA talks, it will remain for GMs - and willing players - to exploit. 
     
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : When Krejci had his surgery in June, the doctors told him it would be four to six months before he could return to the ice. He was back in the lineup four months to the day of his surgery. Admirable and impressive, but obviously too soon. I watched him closely during a game I attended in November and he was nowhere near 100%. He wasn't energized by the Olympics; he was energized by a return to full health, which happened around Christmas. That said, there is no reason to disparage Krejci and praise Savard, nor vice versa. They are both superb offensive players, and the Bruins are incredibly fortunate to have such strength (combined with Bergeron, and Sobotka, who will be a fine checking center) down the middle. You build a team around guys like that. Anyone who complains about Savard isn't taking into account that he spent almost the entire season injured, from a broken foot in training camp (that he tried his best to play through), to an injured knee, to the concussion. To get back to the OP, in relation to the playoffs, IF Savard had been at full health, the Bruins probably could have beaten the Flyers. But with the loss of Krejci and the fact that Savard was at half strength (at best), they were in big trouble. The loss didn't happen because of lack of heart or character, it happened because they lost the guy who was running on all cylinders (both offensively and defensively), and the guy they hoped could replace him couldn't get his body/brain to cooperate. I for one was certain when the Bruins lost Krejci they were in HUGE trouble; I hoped they could sneak out a win and get past the Flyers, but I figured they would never make it through the next round without him. One last thing, regarding the post above: Savard's contract was a very cap-friendly signing, designed specifically so the Bruins would be able to re-sign key components, such as Krejci. He actually lowered his cap hit from his current contract. For his ability/status, it's a very good deal for the Bruins, and evidence that Savard wants not only to stay here, but to be part of a winning team.  
    Posted by duinne


    Duinne, I appreciate that Krejci returned early to play for the B's, and that his was a 4-6 month recovery period.  But the numbers clearly show that Krejci didn't return to form until after the Olympics.  He had just 12 points in 20 games in Jan-Feb, similar to his scoring rate from Oct-Dec.  After the Olympics, he had 21 points in 22 games in March-April, then 8 points in 9 playoff games.
     
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    I think everyone is missing the point that offensively, our team has 3 maybe 4 offensive weapons.  Lose one or two and then opposing teams only have to concentrate on the remaining offensive dangers.  Just the fact that all of the weapons are on the ice, makes the rest even more dangerous.  Think about why Savard was so much more dangerous when PK was here.  When a defense concentrates on one dangerous player, the other players become more dangerous.

    However, if you think that if we had just one more offensive weapon going into the post season, then the loss of Krejci and Strum would not have mattered much, and you would have seen more out of Savard.  This is something that PC will have to think about all off season.  This series collapse rest clearly on his ineptness at the trade deadline.
     
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    I think everyone is missing the point that offensively, our team has 3 maybe 4 offensive weapons.  Lose one or two and then opposing teams only have to concentrate on the remaining offensive dangers.  Just the fact that all of the weapons are on the ice, makes the rest even more dangerous.  Think about why Savard was so much more dangerous when PK was here.  When a defense concentrates on one dangerous player, the other players become more dangerous. However, if you think that if we had just one more offensive weapon going into the post season, then the loss of Krejci and Strum would not have mattered much, and you would have seen more out of Savard.  This is something that PC will have to think about all off season.  This series collapse rest clearly on his ineptness at the trade deadline.
    Posted by dbg1


    Ineptness at the trade deadline? Whom should they have aquired? Everyone was screaming for Raffi Torres, who scored ZERO goals in the playoffs and ended up as a healthy scratch. (!) Ilya Kovalchuk? He sure did a hell of a job for the Devils, didn't he? Now they're out several solid young players and he's on his way out the door. Thank GOD Chiarelli didn't sell the future for him. Miro Satan scored more than Kovalchuk did, and he cost next to nothing.

    There are several factors that contributed to the series "collapse," chief among them, of course, the injury to Krejci. The loss of Sturm hurt too, as much as some fans dismiss it. But the real seeds were sown after the trade deadline but before the playoffs, when Savard (and Stuart, and Seidenberg) went down. Any team can overcome the loss of a player or two, even an important player. But how effective would the Red Wings' offense be without Datsuyk AND Franzen AND Holmstrom? (as a matter of fact, take a look at how the Red Wings fared this season when they lost several key players. Before getting healthy late in the year, they were battling for their playoff lives.)  

    At any rate, to get back to the trade deadline, Neely didn't offer absolute specifics, but he did note afterward in a radio interview that the only trade offers they fielded were "crap." Making a trade for the sake of doing SOMETHING may make some fans happy, but IMHO it's no way to run a franchise.

    And as for the previous post, regarding Krejci's effectiveness: The numbers certainly improved post-Olympics, but his performance on the ice did improve  even before that. Unfortunately his setups were more often than not going for naught.
     
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    I think everyone is missing the point that offensively, our team has 3 maybe 4 offensive weapons.  Lose one or two and then opposing teams only have to concentrate on the remaining offensive dangers.  Just the fact that all of the weapons are on the ice, makes the rest even more dangerous.  Think about why Savard was so much more dangerous when PK was here.  When a defense concentrates on one dangerous player, the other players become more dangerous. However, if you think that if we had just one more offensive weapon going into the post season, then the loss of Krejci and Strum would not have mattered much, and you would have seen more out of Savard.  This is something that PC will have to think about all off season.  This series collapse rest clearly on his ineptness at the trade deadline.
    Posted by dbg1


    I disagree.  During their 10-game winless streak in January, what had the Bruins shown PC?  That they were a playoff team?  That they were a team worthy of trading high picks in order to gear up for a playoff run?  The biggest name, Kovalchuk, didn't pan out too well for NJ.  He's probably going to leave there as a UFA this summer, despite the fact he was surrounded by offensive talent in NJ.  Would he have done better for the B's?  I doubt it.  Who else was traded at the deadline who's made a big impact during the playoffs so far?  I can't think of anyone, can you?   

    In several ways, this was a lost season...some of it within the Bruins control and some of it not.  I've always said it's better to use those two #1 picks and their #2 pick vs. trading them.
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : Seguin can, and has, played all three forward positions (as has Hall, BTW), and has had no trouble playing wing. Chiarelli has made a point of saying that, more than once (as has Sequin). Kessel was a "natural" center. Joe Colborne, another "natural" center, played wing the entire year this seson at Denver. It's not unfair to move Seguin to wing; going by what Chiarelli has said for public consumption, I'm quite certain that if the Bruins do draft him, that's exactly what they'll do. As for Savard, I don't see any holes in his game when he's healthy. He was something of a defensive liability in his early years, but he worked on his shortcomings under Julien and now even plays on the PK. Yes, he's 32, but his game relies on smarts, guile and pinpoint passing, not speed or strength. The latter two gifts often decline with age, the art of setting up your teammates does not. At any rate, the contract was set up so that if he does decide to hang them up with a year or two remaining, the hit is minimal (less than $1 million, I believe). Again, it was deliberately drawn up that way, as are comparative contracts for other older players around the league. It's something of a loophole that the NHL is looking to close, but unless they win that fight in the CBA talks, it will remain for GMs - and willing players - to exploit.   
    Posted by duinne


    No doubt players like Kessel have been moved to the wing. But to you have to look at each player seperately. It was really evident early that Kessel's game (speed & goal scoring ability) was much better suited for the wing at the NHL level. Kessel lack's strenght, hockey sense & defensive responsibility while playing the middle. He also plays a very individualized game which would make it extremely hard to play that position at the NHL level. Kessel has trouble making players around him better with his style of play.

    Everything I hear regarding Seguin is that he has excellent hockey sense. So as an organization you have to put him in a position that gives him the best opportunity to succeed & develop as he is a major building block for the future. To me a special kid like that to the wing to appease Marc Savard is the wrong move IMO. Look at Krejci. If the Bs moved him to the wing they would taking away his greatest asset which is his puck possession & his hockey sense & creativity. You have to put players in a position to succeed & that is why I would keep a hockey sense player like Seguin at center rather then taking a chance to hinder his development by moving him to the wing.
     
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    Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player

    Unfortunately PC didn't have a crystal ball to know he would have a shot at Seguin. If so, maybe savard would not have received such a long term contract. It makes me very nervous as well. I think there is no question Krejci is the better ALL-AROUND player. I said this a long time ago...I'm not sure I can envision savard ever hoisting the Cup? There was a reason he was left off Team Canada. He has many holes to his game and his 2 many men penalty a clear indictment of his leadership. In my opinion he will be left in the dust by Krejci, Bergeron, and Seguin (assuming we get him) in 2 years, maybe less. Can we afford 4 million on a pp specialist? PC has nade some great moves to be sure, but some of these contracts (Ference, TT, and lenght of savards) r total head scratchers. they need to hire a better accountant or something. They will be albatrossed by many of these.

     

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