Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player

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    Unfortunately PC didn't have a crystal ball to know he would have a shot at Seguin. If so, maybe savard would not have received such a long term contract. It makes me very nervous as well. I think there is no question Krejci is the better ALL-AROUND player. I said this a long time ago...I'm not sure I can envision savard ever hoisting the Cup? There was a reason he was left off Team Canada. He has many holes to his game and his 2 many men penalty a clear indictment of his leadership. In my opinion he will be left in the dust by Krejci, Bergeron, and Seguin (assuming we get him) in 2 years, maybe less. Can we afford 4 million on a pp specialist? PC has nade some great moves to be sure, but some of these contracts (Ference, TT, and lenght of savards) r total head scratchers. they need to hire a better accountant or something. They will be albatrossed by many of these.
    Posted by brandonboys1


    Savard was left off Team Canada more because of an overload at center than any other reason. Who would they have left off to add him?

    A clear indictment of his leadership? What are you talking about? The guy came back from a Grade 2 concussion to play in this series, when most people were saying "see you next year." He played the early part of the season even after breaking his foot in training camp, and only stopped because he aggravated it. Hockey players revere nothing more than teammates who will play in pain and not complain, and Savard was the embodiment of this year. He kept getting knocked down, and somehow kept getting back to his feet and fighting back. 

    I don't think you realize how good a player Savard really is. His gifts are subtle. He's not going to give you a ton of highlight reel plays, but he is one of the if not THE best set-up men in the league.

    And as for Seguin, I'm sorry, but this insistence that he must be a center is nonsense. He had more goals than assists this year; he is NOT primarily a set-up man (as Savard and Krejci are), and he'll be a very good wing. Cripes, this is the LAST thing anyone should be worrying about.
     
     
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    Of course Savard is out best offensive player.

    It isn't even close.
     
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    Of course Savard is out best offensive player. It isn't even close.
    Posted by OlsonicCreations


    Based on...

    Seriously, you don't even put any effort into your posts.
     
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    Krejci turned it on after the Olympics but prior to that he was very ordinary.To cut him slack for that because he was overcoming an injury and then not do it for Savard who was nowhere near healthy isn't fair.Savard's play in the playoffs and Krejci's prior to the Olympics is pretty comparable.We obviously lack depth on the wings.Wheeler ,Ryder,Sturm are not legit top 6 forwards.Savard and Krejci didn't have a lot to work with this year.
     
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    the injury to kreji totally deflated the team... People say injury is no excuse but come on, folks to see your best and most stable offesive player go down and out for the rest of the playoff will hurt your phsyci... that just tells you how much they rely on kreji one player to produce offense.  Remember they lost a game 4 to 0 so that proves to you...
     
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    In Response to Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : I have been under the opinion for a while now that Marc Savard is not on the same level with David Krejci. I felt that way before Savard's injury. I am simply not a fan of his allround game. As for the playoffs. Let me premise this by saying that I understand Savard's lack of offence in the playoff's as he was clearly not 100%. A serious concussion is a tough injury to return from physically & mentally. So I understand the lack of offence & I give him a pass for that. However, I will not give him a pass for his undiscipline & selfish play he brought to this series. He took lazy, careless & dumb penalties in this series. He has a history of this even before the concussion problems. He was also responsible for the too many men on the ice penalty that essentially was the final nail in the coffin. That takes me to the "veteran" leadership issue on this team. Selfish, undisciplined penalties are not a way to show good leadership. When a team has a 3 - 0 series lead & blow it I believe the leadership in the room & on the ice has to be questioned. Savard is now 32 yrs old & the Bruins signed him for the next 7 years which is a story in itself. I have no idea what goes on in the room but Savard as one of the veteran leaders failed miserably in that department. As for Savard vs Krejci. No comparison. Savard is becoming a PP specialist. When the games get tough & physical he has a lot of trouble. On the PP where he has more room he can be effective but is that really what you want from a guy who some people consider the # 1 center? Savard has trouble creating his own offence & was not able to bring out the best in the wingers he played with this season & certainly missed Kessel more then Kessel missed him. He can make some great passes but also makes some very low % plays that create bad turnovers. He is also not very good in the defensive zone & on the backcheck in comparison to Krejci & Bergy. I will admit Savard is a skilled offensive player with great vision but he has huge holes in his game like Kessel. He can also be selfish in the discipline department. IMO Krejci is this teams # 1 center going forward. Ridiculous puck possession skills & vision with an extremely high hockey IQ. He makes players around him better & has the ability to create his own offence. Kills penalties & his line this season seemed to be the only line that could create offence on a consistent basis at even strenght. Krejci is also a very good defensive player. He also really helps the transition game as he always appears to be in good position defensively to give our dmen a strong option in the transition game. The guy is a stud & his injury in the playoffs showed how important he is to this team. IMO he is one of the most underated players in the league in both areas of the ice. All this after coming off of major hip surgery last season. So I agree whole heartedly with the OP in that Krejci is much better then Savard right now. If the Bs get a top flight winger they should put him with Krejci as opposed to Savard. Also, lets not forget that David Krejci is 9 years younger then Marc Savard & makes less money. Hopefully Savard's contract won't hinder the Bs ability to resign Krejci in 2 yrs time. I don't think it will as Krejci is just to important. That 7 yr Savard deal is extremely scary for me though.
    Posted by Newfiebullet


    SAVARD will be back to his old self. But since watching him in Providence and as an NHL player, KRECJI is very special. He is very slick and subtle in his play all over the ice. His dynamic play, offensively and defensively is such that opposing teams can't totally match up against him. His loss not only hurt the BRUINS, but relieved all kinds of problems for the flyers.
     
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    Krejci turned it on after the Olympics but prior to that he was very ordinary.To cut him slack for that because he was overcoming an injury and then not do it for Savard who was nowhere near healthy isn't fair.Savard's play in the playoffs and Krejci's prior to the Olympics is pretty comparable.We obviously lack depth on the wings.Wheeler ,Ryder,Sturm are not legit top 6 forwards.Savard and Krejci didn't have a lot to work with this year.
    Posted by DallasSmith


    But the difference between the injuries is that while Savard was injured, the Bruins beat the Sabres in the 1st round.  But when Krejci went down, the entire offense collapsed and the Bruins had no chance to beat Philly.
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : Ineptness at the trade deadline? Whom should they have aquired? Everyone was screaming for Raffi Torres, who scored ZERO goals in the playoffs and ended up as a healthy scratch. (!) Ilya Kovalchuk? He sure did a hell of a job for the Devils, didn't he? Now they're out several solid young players and he's on his way out the door. Thank GOD Chiarelli didn't sell the future for him. Miro Satan scored more than Kovalchuk did, and he cost next to nothing. There are several factors that contributed to the series "collapse," chief among them, of course, the injury to Krejci. The loss of Sturm hurt too, as much as some fans dismiss it. But the real seeds were sown after the trade deadline but before the playoffs, when Savard (and Stuart, and Seidenberg) went down. Any team can overcome the loss of a player or two, even an important player. But how effective would the Red Wings' offense be without Datsuyk AND Franzen AND Holmstrom? (as a matter of fact, take a look at how the Red Wings fared this season when they lost several key players. Before getting healthy late in the year, they were battling for their playoff lives.)   At any rate, to get back to the trade deadline, Neely didn't offer absolute specifics, but he did note afterward in a radio interview that the only trade offers they fielded were "crap." Making a trade for the sake of doing SOMETHING may make some fans happy, but IMHO it's no way to run a franchise. And as for the previous post, regarding Krejci's effectiveness: The numbers certainly improved post-Olympics, but his performance on the ice did improve  even before that. Unfortunately his setups were more often than not going for naught.
    Posted by duinne


    Ok, so let me refrase it...his ineptness in general.  How do you trade away a player like PK (not saying that he didn't need to go) and then not replace him with something...
     
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    patrice is the best offensive player him and hopefully hall will be great to watch for years to come

     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : Ok, so let me refrase it...his ineptness in general.  How do you trade away a player like PK (not saying that he didn't need to go) and then not replace him with something...
    Posted by dbg1


    If anyone saw this scoring drought coming, I'd like to know about it.

    Did you know that Bruins had more 20-goal scorers last year than any club in the NHL? And that was without Sturm, a consistent 25+ goal scorer. Ryder was a guy who had twice scored 30+ goals. For whatever reason (and injuries had something to do with it; Savard broke his foot in training camp, and Krejci's ineffectiveness through the first half of the season undoubtedly hampered his linemates), the entire team (don't forget Chara and Wideman, whose production also dropped) went into a season-long slump.

    As for making a trade at the deadline, what do you do when every time you pick up the phone you undoubtedly hear two things: "Toronto's pick," or "Tuukka Rask"? Or maybe "David Krejci" or "Joe Colborne"? I can guarantee you nobody was saying "Michael Ryder."  Would you have dealt Krejci, Colborne, a first-round pick, and Mark Stuart, for example, for Ilya Kovlachuk? That's roughly comparable to the package New Jersey gave up, and look where it got them.

    Chiarelli isn't perfect, no GM is, but I don't really see where he had many options. IMHO Seidenberg was a tremendous pickup, and if Krejci had stayed healthy, I'd bet he and Satan would still be making sweet music in the offensive zone. But there are things that are beyond a GM's power to fix.

     
     
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    Duinne I must say its a pleasure reading your comments....you are informative and articulate and back your input up with fact....you are never too far from being bang on...I look forward to your participation on this forum along with a good number of other quality posters....thats what this is all about bantering on about our beloved Bruins!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Savard Not Bruins' Best Offensive Player : But the difference between the injuries is that while Savard was injured, the Bruins beat the Sabres in the 1st round.  But when Krejci went down, the entire offense collapsed and the Bruins had no chance to beat Philly.
    Posted by TimThomas-god

    How does that make Krejci the better player? Savard was only playing at half speed against Philly while Krejci was 100% healthy against Buffalo.Savard was basically thrown to the wolves this year,particularly in the regular season ,he was playing with mediocre linemates or linemates nowhere near his caliber.
     
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    No matter what Savard will need to prove he is over the concussion and his bonehead "too many men on the ice" penalty that helped destroy this team. Savard was not very good after coming back from his foot injury. It was a tough year for 91. Krejci did find his game and that game is very good. If Savard and Krejci deliver next year the team has a fighting chance.
     

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