Sayanora "Savvy"

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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : Savard is better on the PP than Krejci You say, krejci, "creates offense" yet Savard has more assists and more goals each season... hmmm.... the only offense that matters is offense that results in goals. 
    Posted by OlsonicCreations


    O.C., you make some good points, and there are a lot of Bruins fans who agree with you.  The anti-Savard crowd is certainly in the minority.

    I'm not sure if being a good powerplay guy is all that, well, good.  "Hey, you do really well when the other team is missing a player."  Powerplay points are a bonus, but not exactly something to put up in lights.

    There are so many factors involved, it's impossible to compare stats.  Time on ice, linemates, opponent's lines, situations. 

    I do remember when Savard went down a couple of years ago that Krejci was summoned from Providence and did a pretty dang good job filling in on the top line with very little previous experience.

    I think Krejci could replace Savard as the team's #1 next season.  I'm happy that the team might have that problem.  Certainly is better than having to call up Trent Frickin' Whitfield.
     
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    Sounds like someone is trying to take thier mind off the fact that thier cheapshot artist captain to too many penalties and killed their shot at the cup!

    Seriously, we wonder why the team is filled to the brim with dirty scumbags, just look at the dumbazz captain!

    By the way, Pronger, Spongebob called, he wants his teeth back!
     
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    I'm not sure if being a good powerplay guy is all that, well, good.  "Hey, you do really well when the other team is missing a player."  Powerplay points are a bonus, but not exactly something to put up in lights. There are so many factors involved, it's impossible to compare stats.  Time on ice, linemates, opponent's lines, situations.  I do remember when Savard went down a couple of years ago that Krejci was summoned from Providence and did a pretty dang good job filling in on the top line with very little previous experience. I think Krejci could replace Savard as the team's #1 next season.  I'm happy that the team might have that problem.  Certainly is better than having to call up Trent Frickin' Whitfield.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    true that about Trent Whitfield. Hes not an NHL caliber player

    I'm just looking at Savards Stats now

    06-07
    PPG:10
    PPA:39
    PPP: 49
    % of total points that season: 51%

    07-08
    PPG:4
    PPA:27
    PPP:31
    % of total points that season: 40%

    08-09
    PPG: 9
    PPA:21
    PPP: 30
    % of total points that season: 34%


    I mean, when you're scoring ~50 points on the Power Play, you can't just dismiss it 

    I mean, Stamkos scored 24 goals on the PP this season
     
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    Def. trade Savard... it would send such a good message to every player in the league that Boston is the place for you!! People kill me... Savard doesn't know the "tough to play against" team? Wasn't he the first to jump in when Lucic was hit by Avery in the Dallas game? He's always had his teammates back.. and he's a little guy. FYI - tough to play teams need high skilled players too! Bashing Savvy is moronic.. what has he won? Well before Boston he spent years in Atlanta.. nobody wins there, and he was in Calgary before that. Savvy is a #1 center, one of the most offensively gifted forwards in the league and at 33... it is possible to improve.. look at his overall game before his injuries this season.. he has improved as a complete player while still putting up big numbers. Find something else to cry about.. Cry about the Ference or Thomas contract if you want to complain about a signing... his buyout number towards the end of the contract is nothing, if he doesn't retire first.
    Posted by BradyBruin


    Agree with you on the Ference signing - that was downright bizarre. He likely could have been had for nickels on the dollar mid-summer. Plus he's only played more than 60 games something like twice in his career.

    The Thomas contract was a bit trickier. He was coming off a Vezina. Yes, they had a promising prospect in Rask, but it would have been tough to let him walk and put all their eggs in an unproven young goalie. I'm still not entirely sold on Rask, so having Thomas around is good [albeit, expensive] insurance.

    Out of those three contracts, I still say "Savvy's" is the worst due to his age, the length, and the amount of money it ties up. I don't like him as a player - never have - and wouldn't have wanted him back in any case, but if it were a three-year extension it would have been more palatable. Ference's deal is almost as bad, but fortunately half as long.

     
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    Out of those three contracts, I still say "Savvy's" is the worst due to his age, the length, and the amount of money it ties up. I don't like him as a player - never have - and wouldn't have wanted him back in any case, but if it were a three-year extension it would have been more palatable. Ference's deal is almost as bad, but fortunately half as long.
    Posted by TheRat13



    wait.... Marc Savard's contract was so ridiculously cap friendly,the NHL investigated PC for violating the "spirit" of the CBA


    It is a front loaded contract, his cap hit is 4.2 a season.

    Length of the deal you're mad at? In the last two years of his deal, we pay him 1.5 million and $560,000 respectively.. this created speculation that Savard will retire before hand, and thats def a possibility.
     
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    In my eyes, Savard signed a four year deal for $6.35M per year.  The final three years are BS throwaway add-ons used to lower the cap hit.

    Also in my eyes, a 33 year old player signing a four year deal worth that amount of money has to bring more to the table than Savard.  Bad contract.
     
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    If Savvy wasn't coming off of a serious injury and carrying a long term contract, he would be the natural trade bait for a top line winger.  The B's have proven they can be successful without him...the same can't be said about Krejci.

    A lineup with a top 3 centers of Krejci, Bergeron and Seguin isn't too shabby.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : true that about Trent Whitfield. Hes not an NHL caliber player I'm just looking at Savards Stats now 06-07 PPG:10 PPA:39 PPP: 49 % of total points that season: 51% 07-08 PPG:4 PPA:27 PPP:31 % of total points that season: 40% 08-09 PPG: 9 PPA:21 PPP: 30 % of total points that season: 34% I mean, when you're scoring ~50 points on the Power Play, you can't just dismiss it  I mean, Stamkos scored 24 goals on the PP this season
    Posted by OlsonicCreations


    I see that stat as a negative.  The majority of the game is played five on five, but half of the player's points come when the other team is at a disadvantage.  I don't just apply this to Savard or the Bruins.

    If the other team limits it's time in the box, they are severly limiting the production of the players that are "power play specialists" (which is what I would call someone who scores more than half of their points on the PP).
     
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    In my eyes, Savard signed a four year deal for $6.35M per year.  The final three years are BS throwaway add-ons used to lower the cap hit. Also in my eyes, a 33 year old player signing a four year deal worth that amount of money has to bring more to the table than Savard.  Bad contract.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    who cares how much boston actually has to pay him, his cap hit is 4 million a year, you retardss are talking like this is like a lecalvier contract at 8million a year or something. 

    chris kelly plays on ottawas 4th line and makes 3.5, maybe we could trade savvy for him! RETARDD!!!!
     
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    I realize it's a pipedream, but I'm holding out hope that Chiarelli can somehow find a way to unload "Savvy." I won't be able to take seven more years of this clown's act. Think Ray Shero would entertain a straight-up deal for Matt Cooke?
    Posted by TheRat13


    I'm sure Shero would since Cooke is a UFA.  What an idiotic thought.
     
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    In Response to Sayanora "Savvy" : I'm sure Shero would since Cooke is a UFA.  What an idiotic thought.
    Posted by Raskman


    Like I was serious, you toolbeater.


     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : wait.... Marc Savard's contract was so ridiculously cap friendly,the NHL investigated PC for violating the "spirit" of the CBA http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/report-nhl-investigating-marc-savards-contract-for-violating-spirit-of-cba.html It is a front loaded contract, his cap hit is 4.2 a season. Length of the deal you're mad at? In the last two years of his deal, we pay him 1.5 million and $560,000 respectively.. this created speculation that Savard will retire before hand, and thats def a possibility.
    Posted by OlsonicCreations


    He will still be a 4 million dollar caphit as a 39 yr old. Do you think Marc Savard will be worth 4 million as a 39 yr old? I go my doubts he will be worth 4 million as a 36 yr old. Terrible deal by Chia for a player who has never been know as a fitness guy. This contract will get ugly IMO sooner rather then later.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : He will still be a 4 million dollar caphit as a 39 yr old. Do you think Marc Savard will be worth 4 million as a 39 yr old? I go my doubts he will be worth 4 million as a 36 yr old. Terrible deal by Chia for a player who has never been know as a fitness guy. This contract will get ugly IMO sooner rather then later.
    Posted by Newfiebullet



    Savard will be getting paid 1.5 mill and $500,000 in his last two-years.. I doubt he'll play out his contract in the minors. More likely, he'll retire if his skills are diminished 
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : ......Savard is one of the Best PP QB's in the entire NHL. Krejci is a 2nd line center MAX. Waiting for Krejci to take over Savard's spot is like waiting for Jesus to come back to earth; it ain't happening, and to think so is foolish. To compare a guy who has averaged more than a point per game in every season he's been with the Bruins (except last season due to injury), to David Krejci is pitiful.
    Posted by OlsonicCreations

    Moron
     
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    Okay so I want to know who is available at 4mil a year that can bring to the table the same or better what Savvy does. You all want, want, want, but are you reading what you write????? You sound like there is a NHL forward store where you can buy perfect robotic players that will do exactly what you sign them for with no errors. These are people that change year to year, their stats change due to line mates and injuries, it's amazing people think these guys will be totally consistant and work out perfectly year to year. THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE NHL!!!! WHY DO YOU THINK THE LOWLY HABS AND PHLIARS MADE IT SO FAR!! 
     
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    Savard has a no-trade clause. If you're a diehard Bruins fan, you know why. 

    He's also, if not the best play-making center in the NHL, at the very least in the top five. As his teammates say, when you're on the ice with him, be ready at all times, because he's going to put the puck on your tape.

    He had a horrible year - broken foot, torn MCL, concussion. He tried to play with the bad foot, and came back as soon as he possibly could from the concussion (probably too soon). Anyone who questions this guy's heart is insane.

    He's come a long, long way from his early years, when he had a reputation as a selfish player. Some people (and players) grow and change, some don't. He did, and IMHO, deserves credit for it. He could easily have cruised along as an all-offense player, but under Julien's system, he's a guy who now takes key faceoffs, is responsible in the defensive zone, and is a regular on the PK. You never would have seen that 10 years ago. Funny how he learned and adapted at a relatively older age, whereas Phil Kessel couldn't.

    You build a great hockey team with great centers. With Savard, Krejci and Bergeron (and hopefully Sobotka coming back for the fourth line), the Bruins match up against any team in the NHL. I don't get the "Krejci will replace Savard" talk. I mean, why? They're both playmaking centers (with cap-friendly deals) that drive defenses crazy. Why handicap yourself by getting rid of one or the other?

    Meh, the OP is obviously a troll, but I can't fathom any Bruins fan who would want to get rid of a great player who so obviously wants to be here, and wants to win a championship here. Savard may have been a mercenary early in his career, but he's a Bruin now, and will hopefully be one for the rest of his life.

     
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    It will be interesting to see if Savard can replicate his amazing skills this season without the help of a pure goal scorer or the handicap of injuries.  If he can, I'll be on board with the people who think he's great.

    If they put 20-goal guys with him, and they all struggle, I think the legend of Marc Savard will be put to rest.
     
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    I realize it's a pipedream, but I'm holding out hope that Chiarelli can somehow find a way to unload "Savvy." I won't be able to take seven more years of this clown's act. Think Ray Shero would entertain a straight-up deal for Matt Cooke?
    Posted by TheRat13


    I hope you slip and fall on a dirty spoon and get AIDS.
     
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              Note to Tyler Sequin----------the fans will love you here. But if you get a concussion half of them will want to throw you under a bus because if you are not the same player after they can say i told you so!!!!!!
     
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    Hey Rat, I'm confused. Are you a Flyers fan? If so, whay do you care about whether Savvy is here or not? If you're just bored and stirring up shite, I'm okay with that. Just wondering is all.
     
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              Note to Tyler Sequin----------the fans will love you here. But if you get a concussion half of them will want to throw you under a bus because if you are not the same player after they can say i told you so!!!!!!
    Posted by east-westBsfan


    I can't speak for any other posters here but I have been a longtime Bruins fan & have never liked Savard's game. He plays soft & tends to disapear when games get physical, takes selfish penalties, whines & dives. That has nothing to do with the concussion. In fact I give him a pass for his lack of offense after he returned from the concussion. What I can't give him a pass for was his selfish penalties in the Flyer series & his unwillingness to be accountable for the too many men on the ice penalty in game 7.

    However, he was well worth his contract that just expired. The Bruins got him for his peak years the last 4 years & he produced on a team that until a couple of years ago had very little talent. He lost Kessel & his game suffered while Kessel continued to produce with the immortal Matt Stajan & Tyler Bozak as his center. Looks like Kessel was more important to Savard then Savard was to Kessel & I am no fan of Phil Kessel or his soft game & lack of hockey IQ.

    The Bruins should have traded Savard this season or let him walk as a UFA & turn the reigns over to more complete players like Krejci & Bergeron with a young Seguin or Hall. They could have used Savard's money to allocate in other weaker areas. Savard may give the Bs a couple of more good seasons but to have this guy taking up 4 million in capspace when he is 39 yrs old is caphell. The same caphell they find there self in now by signing an overrated Tim Thomas to a ridiculous longterm contract after having one great season in a very goalie friendly Claude Julien system.
     
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    Everyone telling the Rat he is a Philly fan because they dont recognize the guy on the card hasnt been a Bruins fan long enough.
    Not saying I agree with him though.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : I can't speak for any other posters here but I have been a longtime Bruins fan & have never liked Savard's game. He plays soft & tends to disapear when games get physical, takes selfish penalties, whines & dives. That has nothing to do with the concussion. In fact I give him a pass for his lack of offense after he returned from the concussion. What I can't give him a pass for was his selfish penalties in the Flyer series & his unwillingness to be accountable for the too many men on the ice penalty in game 7. However, he was well worth his contract that just expired. The Bruins got him for his peak years the last 4 years & he produced on a team that until a couple of years ago had very little talent. He lost Kessel & his game suffered while Kessel continued to produce with the immortal Matt Stajan & Tyler Bozak as his center. Looks like Kessel was more important to Savard then Savard was to Kessel & I am no fan of Phil Kessel or his soft game & lack of hockey IQ. The Bruins should have traded Savard this season or let him walk as a UFA & turn the reigns over to more complete players like Krejci & Bergeron with a young Seguin or Hall. They could have used Savard's money to allocate in other weaker areas. Savard may give the Bs a couple of more good seasons but to have this guy taking up 4 million in capspace when he is 39 yrs old is caphell. The same caphell they find there self in now by signing an overrated Tim Thomas to a ridiculous longterm contract after having one great season in a very goalie friendly Claude Julien system.
    Posted by Newfiebullet


    What part of "broken foot" and "torn MCL" do you not understand?

    As for the rest of your post, if you don't see the value of a guy like Savard, I'm not even going to try. People will believe what they want to believe.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : What part of "broken foot" and "torn MCL" do you not understand? As for the rest of your post, if you don't see the value of a guy like Savard, I'm not even going to try. People will believe what they want to believe.
    Posted by duinne


    What do a "broken foot" & "torn ACL" have to do with selfish penalties & constant diving, whining & the inability to be accountable when you cost your team in another selfish play (Too many men on ice)? 

    How do you think Savard was taken in that room after he denied signalling for a change in game 7? For a team in need of accountability not a good start from one of your supposed veterans. I bet he wasn't to popular in that room after the season. 
     
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    selfish penalties & constant diving, whining & the inability to be accountable when you cost your team in another selfish play
    Posted by Newfiebullet


    this is such an exaggeration. You are inventing a problem that Savard has with these things... He totally doesn't make a habit of this. Occasionally, some emotional players make mistakes, like Savard has done. But you can't just make huge generalizations about someones career over a couple incidents that you happen to notice.

    This is a fictitious problem that Savard has

     

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