Sayanora "Savvy"

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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : this is such an exaggeration. You are inventing a problem that Savard has with these things... He totally doesn't make a habit of this. Occasionally, some emotional players make mistakes, like Savard has done. But you can't just make huge generalizations about someones career over a couple incidents that you happen to notice. This is a fictitious problem that Savard has
    Posted by OlsonicCreations


    I don't think he's a diver, no one on this B's team is.

    He is, however, the biggest whiner I've ever seen wear a B's jersey.  More often than not, whenever something happens, you can count on Savard looking for the ref with him palm to the roof.

    The rest of it describes most hockey players at some point in their careers, except Bergeron, Neely and Luc Robitaille.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : I don't think he's a diver, no one on this B's team is. He is, however, the biggest whiner I've ever seen wear a B's jersey.  More often than not, whenever something happens, you can count on Savard looking for the ref with him palm to the roof. The rest of it describes most hockey players at some point in their careers, except Bergeron, Neely and Luc Robitaille.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    Sidney Crosby is the biggest whiner in the NHL.. It's not even a question. ESPN the mag polled NHL players and over 50% said sidney b*ches and moans more than anyone else

    IMAGINE, yet people revere him.. you know why? Cause his game speaks louder... I wish Savard would get similar treatment


     
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    Hey Rat, I voted for "Spaceman" as the best nickname in Boston history.  Worse than Savvy in that he was very good player but his antics were boorish.  BTW is that Scott Mellanby's rat on ya shoulda?
     
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    Well since Julie Ann dont have the nads to say anything to a referee I guess someone has to. As far as Savard being anything but a NHL superstar is idiotic. Its not like Krejci is not injury prone, As has been proved the last two playoffs!!!!!!
     
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    Well since Julie Ann dont have the nads to say anything to a referee I guess someone has to. As far as Savard being anything but a NHL superstar is idiotic. Its not like Krejci is not injury prone, As has been proved the last two playoffs!!!!!!
    Posted by notacryingwino



    where have you been wino? I haven't seen you forever what's up
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : Sidney Crosby is the biggest whiner in the NHL.. It's not even a question. ESPN the mag polled NHL players and over 50% said sidney b*ches and moans more than anyone else IMAGINE, yet people revere him.. you know why? Cause his game speaks louder... I wish Savard would get similar treatment
    Posted by OlsonicCreations


    A lot of people complain about Crosby's whining, Crysby and all.  He certainly has some growing up to do, but he is only 22.  Now, before you jump down my throat, I'm not suggesting that it's okay, or that it doesn't happen.  I do hope as he matures as a person, this element will disappear.

    The talent level between Savard and Crosby do not come close to being similar, so it's unlikely that this element of Savard's game will be overlooked due to the other things he does on the ice.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : where have you been wino? I haven't seen you forever what's up
    Posted by OlsonicCreations
    Just finished my second tour of duty. I have posted as often as possible but its great to be back and see these boards never change. Hope all is well with you!!!!!
     
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    WT_F IS IT WITH SOME OF YOU, A FAN HAS AN OPINION, STATES IT THEN YOU LL GO BERZERK ON HIM
    You call them trolls and whatever else your inmature minds can think of. Savvy is tradeable,wanted elsewhere and will give something back to the Bs needs if it did happen. Grow up ppl, this is a business where anything can happen, except here where inmaturity seems to get the best of you at times.
     
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    Regardless of what you guys think of him, I'm glad he's signed long term.  I'm glad they signed him to a 7 year deal so it can be cap friendly for the next 4 years.  Chances are in 4 -7 years the complete landscape of salaries and the cap will be completely different so why worry about what happens 5 years from now with his contract.  Right now let's worry about winning a GAWD DAMN STANLEY CUP.  The best way to do that is to have really good players that work together to make a good team.  Look at the league salaries of the guys with a $4 million cap hit (other than entry level deals) and tell me who is better than Savard.  I don't really care if he's our 1st, 2nd, or 3rd line centerman; with his contract size, any of those spots is just fine with me.  How many 2nd or 3rd line centers make $4 million (cap hit)? TONS.  How many 2nd or 3rd line centers with a $4 million cap hit average over a point per game on a consistent basis? Why complain about him actually making 6.5 over the next 4 years? Is anyone in this arguement paying his salary?

    Savard is a Bruin for a long time...He doesn't have to be the leader...He doesn't have to be the tough guy...He doesn't have to be the defensive specialist...

    He has to be and is a big piece to the puzzle of us winning the Cup in the next 3 years!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : A lot of people complain about Crosby's whining, Crysby and all.  He certainly has some growing up to do, but he is only 22.  Now, before you jump down my throat, I'm not suggesting that it's okay, or that it doesn't happen.  I do hope as he matures as a person, this element will disappear. The talent level between Savard and Crosby do not come close to being similar, so it's unlikely that this element of Savard's game will be overlooked due to the other things he does on the ice.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot

    Yeah, I'm not comparing their skills. I just think it's important to note that a most marketable loved player in the game happens to also be the biggest crybaby.

    Crosby is head-above-heels the biggest baby in the league, it isn't even close.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : Since I'm gainfully employed and don't spend every waking minute on Internet message boards, I'm not sure what a troll is. But I do know this: a hapless jocksniffer such as yourself would be lucky to become the assistant GM of his local Dairy Queen franchise. As for the rest of you fanboys, if I were a Flyers fan, don't you think I'd have chosen "TheRat14" as a screen name to reflect the number he wore there? Duh. Ken Linseman is everything Marc Savard will never be. Thanks to Newfie for seeing No. 91 for what he is - a soft, overrated whiner with a hollow hockey resume. 
    Posted by TheRat13


    If you call setting up and taking down the "Tilta Whirl" once a week at fall fairs, gainfully employed then way to go Rat. You lost all credibility by arguing that Linesman was a better hockey player then Savard. Kenny couldn't tie Marc's skates. I met Linesman when he was a Bruin and he was the biggest prik I've ever met. Same off the ice as he was on the ice.
     
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    WT_F IS IT WITH SOME OF YOU, A FAN HAS AN OPINION, STATES IT THEN YOU LL GO BERZERK ON HIM You call them trolls and whatever else your inmature minds can think of. Savvy is tradeable,wanted elsewhere and will give something back to the Bs needs if it did happen. Grow up ppl, this is a business where anything can happen, except here where inmaturity seems to get the best of you at times.
    Posted by wallydouglas


    No. Trade. Clause.

    He signed a seven-year deal with the express purpose of retiring a Bruin. Unless he asks out, he's not going anywhere.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : No. Trade. Clause. He signed a seven-year deal with the express purpose of retiring a Bruin. Unless he asks out, he's not going anywhere.
    Posted by duinne


    That's one way to look at it.  Another way is this:

    He signed a four year deal and added three more to keep his cap number down.  A bonus effect is that it fooled the people of Boston into thinking he gave a hometown discount.  His contract does have a "no trade" clause.  It does not, however, have a "never can be traded" clause.  He signed that so he could have complete control over his address as he plays out his career.  I think that part is brilliant, but shame on Chiarelli for handing these things out like candy.
     
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    I sure was not or am not fooled into thinking he took a 'hometown discount'.  He's getting paid big money for 4 years and we have all known that since the day he signed it.

    I like to think of these long contracts as 'hometown contract' instead.  I know you don't think he would have gotten 4 years/ $24 or $25 million on July 1st but I think there would be plenty of teams that would.  July 1st is when the crazy's come out to play.
     
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    My feeling is that Savard tends to make as many pass attempts as Ovie does shots. Yes, some will find their mark beautifully and be highlight material, but some are going to fall flat. Also, I honestly thought I was the only one that complained about his whining. The only thing about Crosby's whining that didn't drive me nuts was the fact that it made the whining of Savard compare favorably. But the Bruins don't have enough skill to think of trading Savard without having a plan to fill his shoes (or Krejci's shoes if we were to step up as the replacement).
     
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    Uh...yeah..."we". Please understand that I didn't think Bruins management was going to ink all of us morons on this board to contracts - though we do have a shot at putting more pucks in the net than Ryder.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : That's one way to look at it.  Another way is this: He signed a four year deal and added three more to keep his cap number down.  A bonus effect is that it fooled the people of Boston into thinking he gave a hometown discount.  His contract does have a "no trade" clause.  It does not, however, have a "never can be traded" clause.  He signed that so he could have complete control over his address as he plays out his career.  I think that part is brilliant, but shame on Chiarelli for handing these things out like candy.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    It's something of an urban myth that Chiarelli hands NTCs out "like candy." Actually, the Bruins about average when it comes to NTCs: they have four. The Red Wings and Devils have six, Ottawa and San Jose five. Calgary, Montreal, St. Louis, Nashville, Colorado have four; several other teams have three. Chiarelli is hardly the only GM who awards NTCs.

    http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/notrades.html

    As for Savard's contract, it's not a "discount" per se, but it does allow him to stay in Boston for a modest cap hit (and let's not kid ourselves, he could have made a lot more if he wanted to hit the UFA market).
     
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : It's something of an urban myth that Chiarelli hands NTCs out "like candy." Actually, the Bruins about average when it comes to NTCs: they have four. The Red Wings and Devils have six, Ottawa and San Jose five. Calgary, Montreal, St. Louis, Nashville, Colorado have four; several other teams have three. Chiarelli is hardly the only GM who awards NTCs. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/notrades.html As for Savard's contract, it's not a "discount" per se, but it does allow him to stay in Boston for a modest cap hit (and let's not kid ourselves, he could have made a lot more if he wanted to hit the UFA market).  
    Posted by duinne


    Before we declare that Savard could have made a lot more than 4y/$25.5M, let's see how the market plays out this summer.

    Has Chiarelli re-signed any veteran player of note and not given him a NMC/NTC?


     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : Before we declare that Savard could have made a lot more than 4y/$25.5M, let's see how the market plays out this summer. Has Chiarelli re-signed any veteran player of note and not given him a NMC/NTC?
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    Fair enough...you can wait until then to tell me how right I am. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : Before we declare that Savard could have made a lot more than 4y/$25.5M, let's see how the market plays out this summer. Has Chiarelli re-signed any veteran player of note and not given him a NMC/NTC?
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    For the record, Savard had a NTC in his original contract.

    I don't know what you mean by "of note." There are four NTCs on this team: Savard, Chara, Thomas and Sturm. Players who have re-signed in the past couple of years include Seidenberg, Rask, Lucic, Krejci, Hunwick and Ference, off the top of my head. None of them have NTCs.

     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : It's something of an urban myth that Chiarelli hands NTCs out "like candy." Actually, the Bruins about average when it comes to NTCs: they have four. The Red Wings and Devils have six, Ottawa and San Jose five. Calgary, Montreal, St. Louis, Nashville, Colorado have four; several other teams have three. Chiarelli is hardly the only GM who awards NTCs. http://www.thefourthperiod.com/trade_deadline/notrades.html As for Savard's contract, it's not a "discount" per se, but it does allow him to stay in Boston for a modest cap hit (and let's not kid ourselves, he could have made a lot more if he wanted to hit the UFA market).  
    Posted by duinne


    I disagree with the bolded. There is no way he would have made anymore then the Bruins gave him. The most I could of seen a 33 yr old Savard get is a 4 yr 6 million per yr deal from a desperate team like Toronto. He is not worth anymore then that in this market because he is not an elite player. IMO no team would commit anymore then 4 yrs because of his age. So in fact I believe the Bs may have overpaid for an aging player who is quickly becoming a PP specialist who dissapears when games get physical.

    The Marc Savard contract is not a hometown discount. Far from it. For whatever reason a lot of Bs fans see it that way but as a poster mentioned not all Bs fans fall for that.
     
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    Hey Rat, I'm confused. Are you a Flyers fan? If so, whay do you care about whether Savvy is here or not? If you're just bored and stirring up shite, I'm okay with that. Just wondering is all.
    Posted by WalkTheLine


    None of the above, Walk. I'm a lifelong, die-hard Bruins fan. I chose my screen name to honor one of my favorite Bruins ever, Ken Linseman [I just liked the Flyers photo with the rat on his shoulder].

    I find it amusing that there's so many Bruins sycophants on here who think just because one doesn't like Player A or Player B, it means you're not a fan. Folks that believe that sound like 8-year-olds. Grow up.

    Have no fear, I'll be pulling for "Savvy" and the rest of the team next year. But I don't particularly care for him as a player - never have- and I would have preferred that he not be extended - especially not for 7 more years.

    I will admit that the Matt Cooke thing was a gratuitous shot. I figured most would see it for what it was - a joke. How wrong I was.
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : If you call setting up and taking down the "Tilta Whirl" once a week at fall fairs, gainfully employed then way to go Rat. You lost all credibility by arguing that Linesman was a better hockey player then Savard. Kenny couldn't tie Marc's skates. I met Linesman when he was a Bruin and he was the biggest prik I've ever met. Same off the ice as he was on the ice.
    Posted by Reilly24


    I don't know how old you are Reilly, but if you're north of 35, then you must have done some heavy drugs when you were younger - or didn't start following hockey until the 1990s. 

    Here are the career numbers of the two

    Linseman
    860 GP
    256 G
    551 A
    807 Points
    1727 PIM
    +224

    Savard
    782 GP
    205 G
    491 A
    696 Points
    708 PIM
    -47

    Their numbers are actually pretty close. Savard has better vision than Linseman, but that's about the only area in which he's superior. Linseman was an agitator with top-shelf skills who played with heart and at both ends of the rink. yes, he took a ton of penalties - but not chintzy hooking and tripping calls like "Savvy."

    Linseman would lay the lumber on a guy's ankle or spear him in the nuts - and eight times out of 10 would draw a retaliatory penalty, putting his team on the power play. One of the most skilled sandpaper guys of all-time. Way more of a complete player than No. 91.

    [Even if I take your word for it, I'm not sure what him being a dyck off the ice has to do with anything. Bobby Hull used to knock his wife around. That doesn't make him not a hall of famer. Just an a**hole].
     
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    In Response to Re: Sayanora "Savvy" : I don't know how old you are Reilly, but if you're north of 35, then you must have done some heavy drugs when you were younger - or didn't start following hockey until the 1990s.  Here are the career numbers of the two Linseman 860 GP 256 G 551 A 807 Points 1727 PIM +224 Savard 782 GP 205 G 491 A 696 Points 708 PIM -47 Their numbers are actually pretty close. Savard has better vision than Linseman, but that's about the only area in which he's superior. Linseman was an agitator with top-shelf skills who played with heart and at both ends of the rink. yes, he took a ton of penalties - but not chintzy hooking and tripping calls like "Savvy." Linseman would lay the lumber on a guy's ankle or spear him in the nuts - and eight times out of 10 would draw a retaliatory penalty, putting his team on the power play. One of the most skilled sandpaper guys of all-time. Way more of a complete player than No. 91. [Even if I take your word for it, I'm not sure what him being a dyck off the ice has to do with anything. Bobby Hull used to knock his wife around. That doesn't make him not a hall of famer. Just an a**hole].
    Posted by TheRat13

    Hey Rat, are you driving by to throw one more remark late into the thread. By the tenor of your remarks your age must be south of 25.  Which means you watched Linesman on GameBoy or EA Sports in the 80s and 90s.  Linesman was what he was but not "One of the most skilled sandpaper guys of all-time."  So define sandpaper!  He was a fine player in his time, period, nothing else.  By the way if he was so good why did the Bs trade him?  Savard's career is not over with and I hope his concussion is not serious enough to limit his effectiveness.   

     

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