Re: SEGUIN VS KESSEL
posted at 7/31/2010 11:52 AM EDT
In Response to Re: SEGUIN VS KESSEL
oh dear lord, this is starting already?
Posted by pbergeron37
Actually overdue. There's a lot we know already. Although it is comparing apples to... smaller apples, there is a comparison they can be made.
I'm not going to predict how Seguin's NHL career will go, of course I don't know that. I'm going to try and compare what we have "out of the box".
Physical fitness and dedication.
Seguin is dedicated to working out, adding 7 lbs of muscle from memorial cup to combine is quite an accomplishment.
We know Kessel laughed at CJ when he suggested he hit the weight room.
Creativity on the ice.
I've only seen Kessel do something creative once, a clever pass when he had the shot for a goal with the Leafs. One of the most predictable players in the NHL. Also true that it doesn't matter because he is so fast there's not much you can do about it, but Kessel would be much more effective if he were more creative. Seguin is quite creative on the ice.
Yes, it matters. At the elite levels of the NHL, the best of the best are smarter. Doesn't mean that they went to college or not, it means they make better decisions and can evaluate situations better. You can see this in an interview, can they think on their feet quickly enough to have a come back? Seguin interviews much better and has had some good come backs. Kessel interviews horribly and seems really slow upstairs.
No, I haven't been there in person, but there is a ton of ancillary evidence that Kessel - at best - follow the direction of coaching. Wilson called him out 'publicly' by making sure he was overheard when the press was at practice, see the interaction in the games and it is evident to me there's a problem there. All the word about Seguin is that he is ultimately coachable. Finally the famous quote of Kessel not backchecking, 'so what, I'll score a goal and make up for it.'
Seguin is already more mature. Not once anywhere, NEVER
have I heard anyone say 'yah, that was a stupid thing, but come on, give him a break, he's only 18.' And meanwhile I've heard about kessel, 'come on he's still a young kid at 22, give him a break' - heard that a billion times.
I believe players who are more likeable tend to over achieve. O'Reilly is a perfect example. This could be a chicken and egg kind of thing, but it sure seems that way to me. Of course its not 100% true, there have been great players who are universally known as jerks, but its generally true. Seguin, very likeable.
Playing pattern and stepping it up.
Since college Kessel has not changed his style of play. Seguin has changed considerably, he was asked to shoot more and his goal production went up.
Kessel plays his best when you light a fire beneath his posterior. In that losing series against the Habs, sitting him was what got him going. He never would have produced like that if he didn't get benched. Seguin sets goals and achieves them, like the combine.
Talk of Seguin being a future captain, never have I heard of that about Kessel.
Love to hear Seguin say, 'hey, I've got to make the team first' when asked about his future in the NHL. Shows me that he has his priorities straight, achieve the first goal before moving to the second, shows me focus. Never heard of Seguin being disliked in the locker room, always heard that about Kessel dating back to college.
Character - do I even have to bother with the details?
Physically Kessel hit the NHL already mature, Seguin is not physically mature yet, it will be interesting to see how much more he grows.