why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

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    why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 9:20 AM EDT

    I don't think they would . Until we get rid of claude and his awful system .unless there a problem child like horton and ryder  he fights with offensive players as he always has his starting goalies.  His system totallly fails comes playoff time. He can not adjust to situations. He is the reason good players will not come unless there way overpaid.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 9:26 AM EDT

    Defensive systems haven't stopped players from signing on other defensive teams, and Boston is one of the best cities on Earth.

    Any player would be thrilled to be a Bruin.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:12 AM EDT

    With rise of young players already in the Bruin's system:

    prospects seguin colborne caron marchand mcquaid etc

    already establish young players playing NHL:
    Bergeron krejci  horton stuart boychuk lucic wheels rask and our future PK specialist paille 

    Next draft two first rds. the future is strong 

    (A) I am not a fan of CJ style after this season it should a major face lift to the Bruins team put it simple out(some but not all)with old in with new

    (B) If CJ fails this season then it is time for new coaching and new players

    (C) Rechii will be done and hopefully an office job with Bruins, I believe PC, Neely and Rechhi learning the ropes up stairs will be a good future mngt.

    (D) With UFA's Bergeron Chara Sturm Ryder Stuart Hunwick after this season the only three remaining will be Bergeron (sign him 4 yrs.) and if Chara wants too much money then sign him two years and give Stuart a reasonable 4 year contract

    (E) For Savard if we can get good picks in return come deadline then I say do it even though I am a fan of Savy and for Thomas(i am a fan of) i will keep for the season to give Rask some time to developed who i think is not fully matured in some cases. Of all the goalies on the FA list at the moment I would keep Thomas he is a Bruin why fix something that can still work.

    (F) The Bruins miss out on d men last draft but their are propsects out there and scouting will need to put in overtime this year to find a puck moving d man and potential forward with sniper ability.

    If we take a look at 2 seasons from now team 2011-2012

    Lucic Krejci Seguin
    Caron Bergy(if signed)Horton
    Wheels/Paille (if signed) Campbell  Knight
    Marchand Colborne Thornton

    Chara (if signed) Boychuk
    Siedenberg Stuart
    McQuaid Ference( lot of fans don't like but if healthy he is average)

    #7 a prospect/prov.

    Rask and Thomas

     But overall this may be CJ last hooray as Bruins coach i don't know about the other bruins fan but i want to see offenive style coach soon and a asst. coach with strong defensive thoughts.

    I don't know what coach is available in two years but this is the mngt. job not me the fan all this writing I wrote is just a fans projection not a want to be GM.

     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:25 AM EDT

    Well I would have to agree getting high profile scorers here is a tough sell with the current coach.The fact Gagne refused to waive his ntc to come to Boston says tons.The Bruins management made a huge mistake not firing the coach after the disaster in round two.I believe Julien could not coach a shuffle board game as he would continually just try to block the other side from scoring.Another year of watching boring,dont get a penalty hockey awaits us this year.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:33 AM EDT

    Boston allready has some good offensive players, plus a tight defensive system that could make them a contender. Being a contender is what would bring other offensive players. I agree that CJ needs to be more flexible, but, that may not be in the cards based on his past performances. I'm sure that Ramsey was a good coach and willing to express his thoughts, not so sure about the others which could be detrimental to the performance of this team. How long is Cj's contract extension??
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:35 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    Well I would have to agree getting high profile scorers here is a tough sell with the current coach.The fact Gagne refused to waive his ntc to come to Boston says tons.The Bruins management made a huge mistake not firing the coach after the disaster in round two.I believe Julien could not coach a shuffle board game as he would continually just try to block the other side from scoring.Another year of watching boring,dont get a penalty hockey awaits us this year.
    Posted by BRUINSINSIDER


    I read nothing of Gagne refusing to waive his NTC to come to Boston.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 11:30 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    Well I would have to agree getting high profile scorers here is a tough sell with the current coach.The fact Gagne refused to waive his ntc to come to Boston says tons.The Bruins management made a huge mistake not firing the coach after the disaster in round two.I believe Julien could not coach a shuffle board game as he would continually just try to block the other side from scoring.Another year of watching boring,dont get a penalty hockey awaits us this year.
    Posted by BRUINSINSIDER


    Do you have any link to this Gagne comment or are you his agent ? Pure fiction IMO. A sound defensive system didn't stop Kovalchuk from signing with the Devils.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 12:01 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    Well I would have to agree getting high profile scorers here is a tough sell with the current coach.The fact Gagne refused to waive his ntc to come to Boston says tons.The Bruins management made a huge mistake not firing the coach after the disaster in round two.I believe Julien could not coach a shuffle board game as he would continually just try to block the other side from scoring.Another year of watching boring,dont get a penalty hockey awaits us this year.
    Posted by BRUINSINSIDER


    The Bruins had no interest in Gagne. Why would they, at that huge cap hit? He was asked if he'd waive his NTC for Tampa and said yes. End of story.

    And if you actually believe Julien continually just tries to block the other team from scoring, you don't know much about hockey. If that's true, how do you explain the fact that two years ago the Bruins were second in the NHL in scoring?
    The reason for their dropoff this year was simple: injuries and slumps. Krejci took months to recover from off-season surgery, Savard missed most of the season with three separate injuries (which absolutey derailed the PP); Lucic missed time/was ineffective with a broken finger, broken nose and high ankle sprain; Chara played all year with a mangled finger; other players were in and out of the lineup constantly. Wideman, Ryder and Wheeler struggled to put the pucks in open nets; the coach can't do it for them. Hell, there were those who thought Julien did a better job coaching the wreckage of this team this year, rather than the previous year, when he won the Jack Adams.

    If you think the Bruins are "boring," then here's a great idea: Don't watch them. Or even better, educate yourself about the game. Personally, I'd rather see a well-executed, crisp 2-1 victory than a sloppy, run-and-gun 8-6 win.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 2:33 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin : The Bruins had no interest in Gagne. Why would they, at that huge cap hit? He was asked if he'd waive his NTC for Tampa and said yes. End of story. And if you actually believe Julien continually just tries to block the other team from scoring, you don't know much about hockey. If that's true, how do you explain the fact that two years ago the Bruins were second in the NHL in scoring? The reason for their dropoff this year was simple: injuries and slumps. Krejci took months to recover from off-season surgery, Savard missed most of the season with three separate injuries (which absolutey derailed the PP); Lucic missed time/was ineffective with a broken finger, broken nose and high ankle sprain; Chara played all year with a mangled finger; other players were in and out of the lineup constantly. Wideman, Ryder and Wheeler struggled to put the pucks in open nets; the coach can't do it for them. Hell, there were those who thought Julien did a better job coaching the wreckage of this team this year, rather than the previous year, when he won the Jack Adams. If you think the Bruins are "boring," then here's a great idea: Don't watch them. Or even better, educate yourself about the game. Personally, I'd rather see a well-executed, crisp 2-1 victory than a sloppy, run-and-gun 8-6 win.
    Posted by duinne
    When you learn to read.Go back and see the blocking was in reference to shuffleboard not coach Juliens worn out defensive schemes.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 3:17 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin : When you learn to read.Go back and see the blocking was in reference to shuffleboard not coach Juliens worn out defensive schemes.
    Posted by BRUINSINSIDER


    "When you learn to read"?

    Apparently not when you learned to write.

    You're a troll. Please go back under your bridge.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 3:42 PM EDT

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    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin : you probably love soccer right Posted by bruinsking


    You just responded to yourself to ask yourself "you probably love soccer right" So what's the answer ?

    When PC is finally out from under a few contracts snipers will line up with all the centers are in Boston to feed them. The culture has changed from it's horrid past.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 4:01 PM EDT

    Hello pj bergeron i am not saying these will be lines but what we really have play with and project the future. i am not saying Colborne will be a 4th liner or paille being 3 rd liner etc.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 4:12 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    Hello pj bergeron i am not saying these will be lines but what we really have play with and project the future. i am not saying Colborne will be a 4th liner or paille being 3 rd liner etc.
    Posted by Canbostondoit


    The rest of us understood your thought process.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 4:22 PM EDT

    Thanx NAS
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 5:05 PM EDT

    In Response to why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    I don't think they would . Until we get rid of claude and his awful system .unless there a problem child like horton and ryder  he fights with offensive players as he always has his starting goalies.  His system totallly fails comes playoff time. He can not adjust to situations. He is the reason good players will not come unless there way overpaid.
    Posted by bruinsking


    I DON'T agree that it would stop players from signing in Boston, but I DO agree with everything else that you stated. This isn't Julien's first coaching stint, his style was flawed before he got here, and remains unchanged. So why would anyone expect different results now ??? But as far as Boston goes - it's got too much passion and original six history to stop anyone from wanting to play there.
    Winning here would be about as good as it gets -
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 6:51 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    ah, okay, so you were just projecting which prospects and such will have made the jump...gotcha. NAS, did I do something to anger you? It seems I can't post, right or wrong, without you jumping down my throat, I don't know where this anomosity came from, but I'm ready to bury the hatchet on this end.
    Posted by pbergeron37
    I agree. For some reason he is all over your opinions, he even takes it so far that his comments come with many more question marks than yours (or others for that matter).

    It's not about hockey when he comes after you (it's all about him).

     He seems to have a fair bit of hockey knowledge, but these childish attacks are getting old.

    Everybody's comment on here is up for debate, just some do it with class and others.....well.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 7:39 PM EDT

    With all the young talent that the B's have in their pipeline, combined with having a potential franchise player in Seguin. Add Krejci, Horton, Bergeron, and Lucic to the mix .... who wouldn't want to come to Boston. Plus Boston is a great sports city and place to live.

     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 7:54 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    With all the young talent that the B's have in their pipeline, combined with having a potential franchise player in Seguin. Add Krejci, Horton, Bergeron, and Lucic to the mix .... who wouldn't want to come to Boston. Plus Boston is a great sports city and place to live.
    Posted by NumbaFouwer


    Very true. Wouldn't a scoring wing love to play with Savard, Krejci or Bergeron? Wouldn't a defenseman kill to play alongside Chara?

    The lure of an Original Six team is also very real for a lot of players. I had never thought so, but over the last couple of years I've heard it enough to believe it. That old spoked B has a lot of allure.

    Also factor in the lesser travel burden (Vancouver is a nice city, but traveling from there through the Western Division must be really difficult), including the closer proximity to Europe for guys like Sturm and Rask.

    Not to mention that the Bruins spend to the cap and have made the playoffs for several years straight. There's a lot to like about this franchise.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 7:57 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin : I read nothing of Gagne refusing to waive his NTC to come to Boston.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    and I can confirm. Made up.  The trolls are awakening.
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 8:03 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    ah, okay, so you were just projecting which prospects and such will have made the jump...gotcha. NAS, did I do something to anger you? It seems I can't post, right or wrong, without you jumping down my throat, I don't know where this anomosity came from, but I'm ready to bury the hatchet on this end.
    Posted by pbergeron37


    LOL... this is just funny. 
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:05 PM EDT

    The system is not the problem, two years ago they scored in bunches and it seemed everyone was at least a 20 goal scorer.  Every pass seemed to hit and stick and they skated.  Last year they couldn't get the puck out of their own end, couldn't hit anyone in stride and the dump and chase was more a product of those issues then what this system typically wants to do.  Chaulk it up to injuries, both keeping players off the ice and time they spent on while not 100%. 
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:20 PM EDT

    every team in the league knows Boston's break out plan and the pass the puck behind there own net over and over. not to mention the lack of forecheck when the other teams d gets control of the puck. or the 3 guys standing at the blue line while 2 try to forecheck down low.


    this team is flawed, from the lack of top 4 d-men to the lack of 1st line wingers, a 5 mil back up goalie and a 5mil 3rd line center, and no cap space inspite of these short comings.

    it is realistic to believe clode and his neutral zone trap will be gone by mid season.

    they tried to make savard the scape goat for the playoffs and thats back fired. generally the coach is next.

    for anyone who's follwed this team the last 30 years you should know the drill by now!
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:22 PM EDT

    Why...4 reasons

    Savard Berg Krej and Seg

    Can't think of any better reasons
     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/26/2010 10:30 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin:
    every team in the league knows Boston's break out plan and the pass the puck behind there own net over and over. not to mention the lack of forecheck when the other teams d gets control of the puck. or the 3 guys standing at the blue line while 2 try to forecheck down low. this team is flawed, from the lack of top 4 d-men to the lack of 1st line wingers, a 5 mil back up goalie and a 5mil 3rd line center, and no cap space inspite of these short comings. it is realistic to believe clode and his neutral zone trap will be gone by mid season. they tried to make savard the scape goat for the playoffs and thats back fired. generally the coach is next. for anyone who's follwed this team the last 30 years you should know the drill by now!
    Posted by chitownBruinfan


    Is this a joke? I can't even get past the "lack of top 4 d-men" comment. LOL. 

    One thing: Please show me where "they tried to make savard the scape goat for the playoffs."


     

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    Re: why would a good offensive player want to be a Boston Bruin

    posted at 7/27/2010 9:03 AM EDT

    An good offensive player would want to be in Boston because Boston needs a good offensive player. Would a good offensive player rather go to a team that doesn't need an offensive player?

    Anyway, on CJ the Bruin's problem last year was not his coaching style or system. His system resulted in a 32 shot per game average and a 2.33 goals against average. That looks like a pretty good system to me but the players couldn't finish. Sorry but CJ is not allowed on the ice to see if he could score as well. The bottom line last year is that despite a good coaching system they couldn't score (players responsibility not coach's) which again is why a good offensive player would want to be a Boston Bruin.