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    posted at 3/5/2011 9:45 PM EST

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/5/2011 10:19 PM EST

    All I play out on the pond is 4 on 4 hockey. 
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/5/2011 10:38 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4 : Go in for Seidenberg, will you?  Somebody call Claude.
    Posted by mattc355

    Seidenberg is a lot better than me. I'm more of a Carcillo, sadly. And with a lot less skill. I just like pissing off the rich kids at the private school where the pond is we play at. 
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/5/2011 10:38 PM EST

    Jeez, one bad pass- whatever.  The guy picked it up at center ice.  Weak shot between the pads, like the second goal.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/5/2011 10:39 PM EST

    PS its not just 4 on 4.  OT (SO) = loss.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/5/2011 10:47 PM EST

    Yea let's just ignore the fact that TT leads the league in GAA and save%
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 2:41 AM EST

    Seids should not play PP and on 4 on 4 situations because since there is more space on the ice coach will usually put their better skaters.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 7:52 AM EST

    When in overtime go with speed. I would like to see Marchand and Seguin play together in Overtime.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 8:47 AM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    When in overtime go with speed. I would like to see Marchand and Seguin play together in Overtime.
    Posted by BRRocker


    I'll second that. Been saying it all year. Seguin is PERFECT for 4 on 4 hockey. How Claude fails to see this is beyond me.

    Maybe if Kampfer had been healthy he woulda been out there instead of Seidenberg. Far better and faster skater.

    But offensively, guys like Peverly, Marchand, Seguin, and yes, even Ryder (b/c he has more time and space to take his shot) should be getting the bulk of 4 on 4 ice time. Keep the slow guys on the bench.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 10:06 AM EST

    Claude fails to see a lot. He had ryder out there all nite long and Slyder flubbed the puck all nite long.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 10:41 AM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4 : I'll second that. Been saying it all year. Seguin is PERFECT for 4 on 4 hockey. How Claude fails to see this is beyond me. Maybe if Kampfer had been healthy he woulda been out there instead of Seidenberg. Far better and faster skater. But offensively, guys like Peverly, Marchand, Seguin, and yes, even Ryder (b/c he has more time and space to take his shot) should be getting the bulk of 4 on 4 ice time. Keep the slow guys on the bench.
    Posted by TryToBearIt


    Speed is nice with more open ice, but defensive responsibility and NHL caliber decision making are also required.  Seguin falls very short in both.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 11:33 AM EST

    No 4-on-4 goals at any time this season.  Shooting 26% in shootouts (typically 3 goals over 4 shootouts).  I'm not saying Thomas is blame-free for his post-regulation record, but the performance of the skaters in front of him is at least as much to blame for his record as he is.

    I wonder if it is some sort of flaw in Julien's system, that it just can't be adapted to 4-on-4 play.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 11:36 AM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    No 4-on-4 goals at any time this season.  Shooting 26% in shootouts (typically 3 goals over 4 shootouts).  I'm not saying Thomas is blame-free for his post-regulation record, but the performance of the skaters in front of him is at least as much to blame for his record as he is. I wonder if it is some sort of flaw in Julien's system, that it just can't be adapted to 4-on-4 play.
    Posted by DrCC


    Considering their powerplay record (including zero goals in the last 12 chances), maybe they just can't play when the other team has only four skaters out.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 11:54 AM EST

    Julien rules keeps Bartkowski 9:13 TOI fresh younger legs on the bench whom should have had his Petr Klima moment could have been inserted with his energy. Instead Julien sends out 24:04 TOI tired Seides who made a lazy pass. Clode will continue to mismanage tightly contested games with panic. Bylsma, Laviolette and Maurice will out coach Julien in any close games easliy.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 12:06 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    Julien rules keeps Bartkowski 9:13 TOI fresh younger legs on the bench whom should have had his Petr Klima moment could have been inserted with his energy. Instead Julien sends out 24:04 TOI tired Seides who made a lazy pass. Clode will continue to mismanage tightly contested games with panic. Bylsma, Laviolette and Maurice will out coach Julien in any close games easliy.
    Posted by SanDogBrewin


    I'm not sure if you watched the game, but Bartkowski at times seemed about as defensively responsible as Kessel.  This is exactly what I've seen from him at the Providence games I've been to this year.  He has no place in OT right now.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 12:27 PM EST

    The unwillingness for Julien to trust when the time is right and use fresh legs when truly needed is what I saw and see. That is what you don't see with your coaching prowess.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 12:37 PM EST

    i wouldn't want bartkowski out there either. there's a reason he had less than 10 min toi. they don't trust him in the nhl right now. that's why they got hnidy.

     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 12:47 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    i wouldn't want bartkowski out there either. there's a reason he had less than 10 min toi. they don't trust him in the nhl right now. that's why they got hnidy.
    Posted by goodnewsbears


    I usually wouldn't want him either but-the B's are in pretty good shape for the playoffs and it was a good chance for C.J. give the kid a chance.  I wouldn't want him out there if the B's were in the playoffs or battling to make them but they do have some slack to play the kids a little(hint-play Seguin more now vs playoffs).
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 12:50 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    Claude fails to see a lot. He had ryder out there all nite long and Slyder flubbed the puck all nite long.
    Posted by bogie6


    Good call. If you watch Ryders effort when Seids turned the puck over, that should be good cause to sit him next game but Clod will have none of that since its his boy!!!!!!
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 1:05 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    The unwillingness for Julien to trust when the time is right and use fresh legs when truly needed is what I saw and see. That is what you don't see with your coaching prowess.
    Posted by SanDogBrewin


    What did you think of Bartkowski's overall play?  I found his play was an extension of his Providence play.  I thought he carried the puck too long, went too deep into the offensive zone and didn't break his xyz trying to get back into position.  Because of that, I wouldn't want him out there on 4 vs 4.

    What is your opinion of his play last night?
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 1:06 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    Claude fails to see a lot. He had ryder out there all nite long and Slyder flubbed the puck all nite long.
    Posted by bogie6


    My favorite part was when he had the Bruins goon on the ice with two minutes left and the team down by a goal.  Boy, that was some astute decision making there.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 1:07 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4 : I usually wouldn't want him either but-the B's are in pretty good shape for the playoffs and it was a good chance for C.J. give the kid a chance.  I wouldn't want him out there if the B's were in the playoffs or battling to make them but they do have some slack to play the kids a little(hint-play Seguin more now vs playoffs).
    Posted by stingerjp


    i don't want seguin to play more either. i'd rather have campbell move up from the 4th line than seguin. i want seguin here cuz he's better than anybody in providence, but i don't think he's one of our top 9 forwards.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 1:52 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4 : What did you think of Bartkowski's overall play?   What is your opinion of his play last night? Posted by Not-A-Shot


    Bartkowski is a better natural skater and passer than Seidenberg. Dennis looked tired all night (has with Frence's absence) as Matt only looked tentative. Fresh legs and a fresh mind no matter his play in Providence (which Mr. clean doesn't watch) would have told me to get the younger player who's a better skater on the ice during a 4 on 4 rather than keep using an obviously tired veteran who lacks offensive skills.

    Once again bad in game trust and decision making by you and Julien.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 2:26 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4 : My favorite part was when he had the Bruins goon on the ice with two minutes left and the team down by a goal.  Boy, that was some astute decision making there.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    i now know i'm spending too much time on here. i saw thornton on the ice and i was thinking about you. that's just not right.
     

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    Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4

    posted at 3/6/2011 2:44 PM EST

    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4:
    In Response to Re: We Can't Play 4-on-4 : Speed is nice with more open ice, but defensive responsibility and NHL caliber decision making are also required.  Seguin falls very short in both.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    Maybe, but I'd say the risk of Seguin's spotty D is worth the potential strike of a game-winning goal. You trade a little 2way-type of "responsibility" player like bergeron or Kelly for a guy who with open ice aiding his best asset (speed) that can put the game away. Plus, the defense you lose w/him can be buffered somewhat by putting responsible D guys out there like Chara or Boychuk.

    All I know is the Bruins have a horrible 4 on 4 goal scoring record this year and it would be nice to see CJ roll the dice a little in letting a speed guy like Segs get out there and show what he can do.
     
    It also occurs to me that if you;re worried about his defensive liabilities you could pair him with a Bergeron or Kelly to help offset that...altho' I'd still prefer to see extra speed out there, such as Peverly, or a guy who can really take advantage of the extra space to release his killer shot, i.e. Ryder, who normally gets bogged down in 5 on 5 traffic and can't let it fly.