Re: 2011 2012 Bruins Fighting Major Total
posted at 7/26/2011 6:04 PM EDT
In Response to Re: 2011 2012 Bruins Fighting Major Total
"We non-fightists need to speak out for our side of the argument." Thats fine and dandy, but dont try telling hockey fans that. Fighting is part of the game, and for the sake of the game, they should NEVER remove it. It would be too dangerous for star players if fighting were eliminated. The league knows this without saying it, its why its allowed. In no other sport is fighting allowed (unless its a combat sport). Dont get all bent out of shape when hockey purists who understand and enjoy the fights get bent out of shape by guys saying stuff like you said. Maybe there are some fans who dont enjoy the fights, but the fights get the fans worked up as much as, and possibly more than a goal. When there is a fight, EVERYONE is standing, cheering, screaming and generally going crazy and it can and does change momentum. Its a great part of the game and for those of us who understand it and appreciate it, we get a little sick of people attacking it. If you dont like it, dont watch. Its pretty simple. I dont like womens golf but you know what, if they fought it out in a cage Id enjoy it. Or maybe if they had to wear bikinis Id watch. Am I going to voice my displeasure with the lack of fighting & bikinis? NO! You know why? Because I dont try to push my views down other peoples throats like a special interest group. You dont like something, move along. Pretty simple concept. Im not sure who said it previously now, but I think teams will be coming at the Bruins hard this year. They are the reigning champs and teams will be coming at them to prove something. Happens every year. Look at all the tougher guys the Blackhaws signed. Its obvious that a team who can play physical and arent intimidated by other teams can win the Cup. Its almost not even arguable that the Bruins were by far the nastiest, toughest overall team this year. Not with goons putting on staged fights for nothing every night, those fights almost never matter. However, when you look at all the genuinely tough guys on the Bruins, no other team can match that. And thats a big reason that the Bruins beat teams that they werent supposed to. Those teams couldnt steam-roll them because they wouldnt allow it. Teams that were supposedly faster, deeper, better. When you can match not only speed, scoring, defense, heart and toughness, there arent many teams that can beat you. I think a number of teams will be coming after the Bruins this year, and there will be some nights where it gets out of control, like that Habs game. I totally agree that I dont want to see Lucic and Horton fighting if they dont have to, but I think those guys have too much hear to not fight. Neely was an amazingly well rounded scorer/tough guy, and Lucic & Horton are the same. They have a TON of heart and character, and they wont allow crap to slide. I dont mind that at all. I dont want anyone to be a pushover and back down. And when guys like Ference will go after anyone because he doenst like what someone did to his teammate, that makes guys like Krejci feel a little more at ease out there.
Posted by bigvig
bigvig, For sure hockey fans don't like non-fans calling the sport "vicious and brutal" or as you write, "pushing their views down other people's throats like a special interest group". But that's not what I'm talking about. I only expressed my dislike for the fighting, and as a longtime hockey fan and Bruins fan, I think I have that right to dislike that aspect of it. Without being told to "move along" to some other sport.
I haven't been to an NHL game in a long time, but we have ECHL here and it's the same thing with the fans going nuts when a fight starts. To me, the fighting is stupid and boring.
I understand your argument that when the line is crossed there has to be retribution in order to protect the stars, who often are non-fighters or lesser-fighters like Krejci. But this could be accomplished as well or better by more stringent officiating. Boarding, elbowing, cross checking, head shots, blindside hits, and the like are being cracked down on and let's hope the trend continues.
The most objectionable are the staged or expected fights, like goon #1 vs goon #2. Everyone knows it's coming and pretty much how it will go. Yawn, take a snack break.
Reading these forums, I notice that most all the comments are pro-fighting, and a lot of energy is put out to advocate pulverizing, maiming, pounding into the ice, smearing their bloody brains, and otherwise dominating all foes. OK, I get it that most hockey fans are that way. So, as a perhaps tiny minority, I am just trying to say that there are some of us who are avid hockey fans but dislike the fighting.
Hopefully I have the right to express that without being told to "shut the f. up" etc.