Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/26/2011 8:33 PM EDT
- Not-A-Shot
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In Response to Re: 7th Player Award? : You asked- I answered. We'll have to agree to disagree on McQuaid, as well as, Marchand and Rask. I will agree on Campbell, as I think he has been one of the best Bruins over the past month, regardless of production.
Posted by Crowls2424
The dang jury is STILL out on Rask. I am dying for that guy to put up the numbers we hope he can. The team needs him to, because Thomas isn't getting any younger and if not him then whom?
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 11:48 AM EDT
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Above and beyond expectations is the meaning of the award. I pick Marchand followed by McQuaid and Campbell. They are the players who have exceeded my expectations. Marchand and McQuaid I didn't even think would make the team come October. Campbell has been the catalyst for an improved 4th line.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 11:59 AM EDT
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I'm going to stick with Marchand if he sticks to what he was going to get 19 goals.
If Marchand blows it with a rat tactics then I would see Campbell.
Important in faceoffs, kills penalties and sticks up for his teammates. Maybe his point totals don't matchup but isn't what he does why there is a 7th player award ?
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 12:08 PM EDT
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The more I think about this the more I think Campbell should get it. Both McQuaid and Marchand are rookies so expectations should be low as we have no gauge in which to compare what they are doing this season as opposed to any previous one. Campbell has been around a few years so this makes it simpler. He has truly played above and beyond my expectations of him.......
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 1:49 PM EDT
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I for one wasn't expecting Tim Thomas to play the way he has this year, heck they tried to get rid of him. While Marchand has decent numbers he really only had the one good month. TT has been stellar all year.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 1:56 PM EDT
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Above and beyond expectations is the meaning of the award. I pick Marchand followed by McQuaid and Campbell. They are the players who have exceeded my expectations. Marchand and McQuaid I didn't even think would make the team come October. Campbell has been the catalyst for an improved 4th line.
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Instead of wasting time here, and dedicating another sig line to me, why not address the important topic. You know, the attack threads that you started? Yeah, they're waiting for you.
http://www.boston.com/community/forums.html?plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3aSportsForum%3a0d190bb9-6882-4397-9ce1-e66db723d396Discussion%3ab95ec70d-a8fb-47e2-833b-7bf6b7a35997&plckCurrentPage=4
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 2:00 PM EDT
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putting aside NAS being a tool, McQuaid should be in the discussion. However, consider Thomas, I expected him to be the back up this year, not a vezina candidate
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 2:15 PM EDT
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This has to be the toughest year to make a decision as there are so many players deserving. Marchand - leading plus minus record of any rookie in the league; plays on the penalty kill, scores; second in short handed goals; a 4th liner energy guy promoted to regular 2nd and 3rd line duty. Campbell - only 2 goals last year to 12 goals this year; gives the B's a viable contributing 4th line that would be a 3rd line on many other teams; excellent on face offs and rarely gets tossed; does the dirty work and helps to protect team mates; excellent forechecker and especially in the crucial minute following a goal for or against. MacQuaid - great shot blocker; excellent at the rough stuff when needed; rarely out of position; a regular in his rookie season and has risen from the 7th "D" man to a # 5 or possibly a # 4. Heck you can even make a case for Lucic (above and beyond in the goal scoring scenario) Krejci (a number 3 center rising to be the number 1 guy) Thomas (all but washed up and # 2 behind Rask at the beginning of the year) and Boychuk (who may not be scoring as much as he can - but does do the timely hit or block shots and protects his goalie and team mates. Let's get a debate going
Posted by Devanjan
Ver good post. I would have to go with Marchand did any of you expect this from the rookie? He has strugled some of late but the overall body of work for the season I think he should win the award. He has been a key and valuable member of the team this year.
I also wouldn't have a problem with campbell or thorton winning it. Both have been there all season answering the bell for fights and sticking up for teamates. They have both added more goals than most would think from 4th line grinders.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 3:53 PM EDT
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I for one wasn't expecting Tim Thomas to play the way he has this year, heck they tried to get rid of him. While Marchand has decent numbers he really only had the one good month. TT has been stellar all year.
Posted by kelvana33
i agree kelvana but were i am jammed up is when thomas signed his last deal i was one of many that thought it was to long and too much money. now this year he has earned every dime of it with his play and i am wrong about the contract. so that is were i am confused i guess he has played up to his contract but does that make him a candidate for 7th player?
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 4:03 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7th Player Award? : i agree kelvana but were i am jammed up is when thomas signed his last deal i was one of many that thought it was to long and too much money. now this year he has earned every dime of it with his play and i am wrong about the contract. so that is were i am confused i guess he has played up to his contract but does that make him a candidate for 7th player?
Posted by LoyalBlackNGold
Good point, but sometimes this award doesnt go to the 7th player as it should, sometimes its a popularity contest. Maybe TT doesnt qualify but after last year I say he has exceeded expectations, along with Marchand and McQuaid. As far as TT's contract, when they signed him, it did seem a little too long but, I was real happy for him. A great guy who paid his dues and he earned it the hard way. i don't care who your favorite team is Tim Thomas is a hard guy not to root for, I love youtubing his vezina speech how he states for the longest time he was just trying to get his name on a roster..awesome
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 4:22 PM EDT
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+/- couldn't matter less. Kessel was +something high. Three goals and 11 assists is not decent. +/-, again, doesn't matter and leading the defense in PIM is no accolade. The other two are slightly skewed due to the revolving door of Ference, Stuart, Hunwick, and Kampfer all playing parts of the season. I suppose that lends some credibility to McQuaid as a valuable defenseman, but let's not pretend that he's played great, or even well. He's a slow moving, poor shooting, poor passing, sometimes hard hitting, tough defenseman. I doubt he'll ever be about the third pairing on any team. That doesn't get an award from me. I expect it to go to Marchand because he was bananas for two months and was the talk of the town. I would prefer it to go to Campbell. Campbell's points aren't up, but I had no idea he was this reliable and versitaile.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
I didn't expect Mcquaid to dress for more than 20-25 games so yeah,he's exceeded expectations.His proving he was a viable 3rd pairing option made it more comfortable for PC to move Stuart and his expiring contract.Add to that the fact he's now killing penalties and you've got a worthy 7th player candidate(your boy Marchand wins by a landslide).
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 5:26 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7th Player Award? : I didn't expect Mcquaid to dress for more than 20-25 games so yeah,he's exceeded expectations.His proving he was a viable 3rd pairing option made it more comfortable for PC to move Stuart and his expiring contract.Add to that the fact he's now killing penalties and you've got a worthy 7th player candidate(your boy Marchand wins by a landslide).
Posted by dezaruchi
I love the fact that so many players have exceeded different people's expectations. Most years, it's very obvious, but this year the field appears wide open. I guess that's one of the reasons they're in third in the conference!
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 5:44 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7th Player Award? : I love the fact that so many players have exceeded different people's expectations. Most years, it's very obvious, but this year the field appears wide open. I guess that's one of the reasons they're in third in the conference!
Posted by Not-A-Shot
Absolutely right my man!A winning formula includes multiple players exceeding expectations.It makes up for some of the disappointing numbers put up by other guys.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 6:41 PM EDT
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Can anyone tell me why McQuaid is even mentioned here? He's done nothing more than get in a few fights and be a distant #6 quality defenseman.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
Well,I must be watching a different guy .I think McQuaid has been one of the B's best D all year long.His plus /minus is outstanding.He skates well for a big guy and moves the puck.I would have given the 7th player award to Marchand say a month ago but his play has slipped lately.I would give it to McQuaid.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 6:58 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7th Player Award? : Well,I must be watching a different guy .I think McQuaid has been one of the B's best D all year long.His plus /minus is outstanding.He skates well for a big guy and moves the puck.I would have given the 7th player award to Marchand say a month ago but his play has slipped lately.I would give it to McQuaid.
Posted by DallasSmith
A great +/- and "skates well for a big guy" don't really hold much water for me. He does move the puck, but usually it ends up on the tape of an opponent.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 7:17 PM EDT
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Your Seventh Player Award Nominee just threw it out front of the net...to a Flyer...for a goal. I know a lot of people love McQuaid, but honestly, if you watch the games, you'll see how many of his passes end up on the opposition's stick.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 7:39 PM EDT
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Didn't see this post coming.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 7:55 PM EDT
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Didn't see this post coming.
Posted by Crowls2424
And I didn't see this one coming either! As I was typing it, I figured you'd give it to me. Good stuff.
Honestly, however, things like this do go unnoticed by some (or many, or most considering the posts here). He's a good third pairing defenseman, but outside of the minimal +/- and the fights, he really isn't much more. Of course, I'd much rather have him out there instead of Bartkowski!
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 8:03 PM EDT
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Not a strong 1st period for McQuaid, his pass at the end of the period got picked off and lead to the Bergeron penalty as well.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 8:33 PM EDT
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i think at this point, my vote has to go to thomas
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 8:57 PM EDT
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Same play by Chara! What's wrong with these guys?
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 9:38 PM EDT
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Same play by Chara! What's wrong with these guys?
Posted by Not-A-Shot
not to belabor the point nas but start of season what were your expectations for mcquaid that the only thing i was saying. push comes shove i would vote marchand 1st but your right its a good thing that there are a alot of options. which means some guys did better than alot of people thought.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 10:48 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: 7th Player Award? : A great +/- and "skates well for a big guy" don't really hold much water for me. He does move the puck, but usually it ends up on the tape of an opponent.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
He didn't have a good 1st period tonight,that's for sure ,but I still think the Bruins D is one of the better ones in the league.I think Montreal's backend will be their downfall in the playoffs.I don't think Gill,Mara,Subban ,Hamrlik ,etc .are solid in their own zone.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 10:50 PM EDT
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Your Seventh Player Award Nominee just threw it out front of the net...to a Flyer...for a goal. I know a lot of people love McQuaid, but honestly, if you watch the games, you'll see how many of his passes end up on the opposition's stick.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
It's funny after that play I felt like I had egg on my face.
Re: 7th Player Award?
posted at 3/27/2011 10:55 PM EDT
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Your Seventh Player Award Nominee just threw it out front of the net...to a Flyer...for a goal. I know a lot of people love McQuaid, but honestly, if you watch the games, you'll see how many of his passes end up on the opposition's stick.
Posted by Not-A-Shot
And here I thought he wouldn't turn the puck over again this year.
