Re: A Riddle
posted at 4/30/2014 3:16 PM EDT
"Book, i highly respect your opinion..."
"...but feel that with the arrival of Z-man and the regime of PC & CJ, Jumbo Joe too would've contributed to a cup winner.... like NAS, i also think Joe wasn 't given a fair shake....
and still isn't...."
days-of-Orr, getting me started on JT Superstar is never a good idea....
You might be right about him contributing to the Bruins Cup Win, but honestly, I think PC would have dealt him. I don't think PC would have paid him what the Sharks have paid him, and I don't think Thornton would have give then Bruins the numbers he gave the Sharks assuming most other things were equal. Most importantly, that deal was a wake up call for him. The most raw emotion I've ever seen him show are his response to the trade - his infamous, NBA PrimaDonnaesque, bellyaching about "the Bruins don't spend money to bring in good players but I'm the problem?" rant. They spent money to bring you in arseface. They spent money to bring in Guerin, Gonchar, Nylander.... Such a cop out. Such a spoiled, entitled player by the end in Boston. I badly wanted him to be the Modano/Lindros love child he was supposed to have been, but he was more like the accidental pregnancy after hate-sex on southern comfort and a bad futon. Moody, mouthy, difficult to coach, centre of a clique-y dressing room.
I'll say it again and again: winning the trade is a media thing. Good GMs really don't give a crap. They make moves to execute a plan. Now, do I believe Mike O'Connell had said plan? No. But do I think Chiarelli looked around the Cap world and said - this money that would have gone to Thornton? Spend it on Chara and Savard. Yes. I don't think there's any scenario for the money to work with both Chara and Thornton unless they didn't sign Bergeron when they did.
Last thing about winning the trade though - sometimes you don't want equivalent current value. If no one wanted to give up 5 firsts for JT Superstar, you don't want a package where you get, say, Marleau in return because you neither bottom out, as they did, nor do you address your needs. Better to get a well-used set of Buffy the Vampire Slayer VHS cassettes for Thornton than just enough talent for you to win just enough games to draft tenth instead of 5th.
Are you not entertained?!?!