Re: Absurdity 101
posted at 7/29/2012 1:59 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Absurdity 101
In Response to Re: Absurdity 101 : Guys like Parise, Nash and Kovalchuk score more goals than say Bergeron and Lucic because they are better during 5 on 5, 1 on 1 battles and can get off precise shots in close with defensman draped over them. You need to explain to me "Never is a player's success or failure based soley on his own actions". The players I mentioned don't rely on having a great center to create their own offense. What variables help separate a great passer to an average passing center ?
Posted by SanDogBrewin
A few of the variables:
Who is the left winger?
Who is the right winger?
Who is left defenseman?
Who is the right defenseman?
Who is the left winger on the opposing team?
Who is the center on the opposing team?
Who is the right winger on the opposing team?
Who is the left defenseman on the opposing team?
Who is the right defenseman on the opposing team?
Who is the goaltender on the opposing team?
Can the left winger score well on one timers?
Can the right winger score well on one timers?
Can the left defenseman score well on one timers?
Can the right defenseman score well on one timers?
Can the left winger pass well? (second assists)
Can the right winger ''
Can the left defenseman ''
Can the right defenseman ''
Can the left winger break free from coverage to get open?
Can the right ''
Does the left defenseman have a booming shot that gets through?
Does the right ''
What offensive zone scheme does the coach run?
Do the opposing players block a lot of shots?
What defensive zone scheme is the opposing coach running?
Is the goaltender easy to beat between the legs?
Is the goaltender easy to beat up high?
Is the goaltender easy to beat down low?
Does the left winger generally shoot high?
Does the left winger generally shoot low?
Does the left winger pick the five-hole?
Right wing ''
Left D ''
Right D ''
There are so many variables, it's insane.
None of these variables show up on any stat sheet, but all are factors.
In baseball, which is a stop action sport, you can say that Player A hits .xxx when the score is x-x with x runners on base facing a x handed pitcher. No matter what happens in baseball, a counted at bat is never more than a pitcher and a ball vs. a hitter and a bat.
In hockey, you can't say that Player A gets x assists in x period when the score is x-x.
Sabermetrics works for baseball. It does not work in hockey.