Bring up Caron and bench Seguin

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    Does anyone dispute his ability to get his one timers off dead on and quick couple of his goals were top shelf lasers only chance for the goalies to react was to look back in the net.
     
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    [QUOTE]Does anyone dispute his ability to get his one timers off dead on and quick couple of his goals were top shelf lasers only chance for the goalies to react was to look back in the net.
    Posted by alwaysabruin[/QUOTE]
    Only 6 of them and you've already surpassed Yaz in your number of  quality posts(you probably could've managed it with 1).Don't bother with the intelligent posting on this thread as it's essentially lost on some of these jokers/experts.
     
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    the thing i dont understand is.. didnt the scouts and gm know this about his game? was he this timid in juniors.. or was this years situation all about marketability for the kid.. its painful to watch him on the ice lately.. he stick checks with one hand while leaning his body away from contact.. millbury ripped him apart in post game interviews and its pretty obvious that his physical game is not there.. that being said, i dont think six minutes a game is going to help him get better.. claude has to come up with a better plan to get him going in games becuase all he's going to do is burn up all his other players energy when they have to make up lost time for seguin sitting on the bench
     
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    [QUOTE]He just turned 19 days ago and has half an NHL season behind him and he should be benched for lack of progress?? Why not just bench fans with unrealistic expectations?
    Posted by niftybear[/QUOTE]

    Where do you see progress ? Seguin doesnt get enuf minutes to progress, he is not a good fit for this team right now, management is killing this kid bringing him up too early.
     
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    playing 6 minutes a game is not going to help his confidence or his development.  clearly he is overmatched physically right now and needs to learn a higher compete level. playing "scared" to make mistakes never works.

    he is a high talent player that should have an impact for many years.  it may be better for him in the longer term to go to Providence and play meaningful minutes.


     
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    These are the same people who cried and cried and cried that Thornton's progress was being slowed by B's management and that his confidence would be destroyed making him an AHLer at best.

    None of you know the first thing about what it takes to turn a prospect into a star.  Every time you post that he "seemed" or "seems" or "looks" anything, you are stating that you can read minds and determine thought process from watching someone skate.  Get real.
     
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    what i think is sad in a way is that i wish the B's would move Kampfer to forward and play Stuart, or go with 7 defensemen...Stuart has been healthy scratched in four straight and really he gives the B's more in the way of helping out than Seguin does. It at the very least gives the B's the ability to rest Chara at times (if they ever get in a lopsided game) and rest a Seidenberg, who also plays too much at times. I love Kampfer as a d-guy, don't get me wrong. But Seguin has been transparent and frankly unplayable. The kid will be back, he's just way, way too young.
     
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    I would argue that Seguin really hasn't had the stability you would want a prospect of his stature to have.  He gets moved to a different line every week a different position every other week, and has no idea what kind of ice time he'll get.  Tough to experiment and learn when your always having to focus on your new linemates or whether your in position.  

    We learn the most when we get to try things out...Hall looked horrible early but despite that bad play he got the opportunity to play and to see what he could and couldn't get away with offensively in the NHL (if you watched the Doughty hit you can see he is still learning).  Seguin just isn't getting those chances.  He thinks dump the puck before its even on his stick.  At some point he needs to get those chances in game time situations.  Knowing your going to sit the 3rd period no matter what has got to be a confidence killer as well.

    Has CJ ever done well progressing a young player??  Lucic is having a good season but everyone else has regressed...Wheeler, Krejci, Stuart, Boychuck, Hunwick (when here)


     
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    All I know from watching is the last 2 games have been Seguin's worst 2 as a pro.  It appears he is playing with a lack of confidence but it could also be an injury or the flu. 
     
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    Im sticking by the kid but I have to admit its getting harder.

    I would love someone to hit Seguin like someone hit Hall. Of course that would require Seguin to be flying up the ice with the puck like that in the first place but thats another story.

    He seems just horrified of getting hit but he really isnt that small, he's bigger than marchand, but nothing scares marchand. I would hope that if he got popped (cleanly of course) and was fine it might make him realize that he isnt going to die from contact out there. Maybe it would knock his marbles around and he would pick it up.
     
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    [QUOTE]Im sticking by the kid but I have to admit its getting harder. I would love someone to hit Seguin like someone hit Hall. Of course that would require Seguin to be flying up the ice with the puck like that in the first place but thats another story. He seems just horrified of getting hit but he really isnt that small, he's bigger than marchand, but nothing scares marchand. I would hope that if he got popped (cleanly of course) and was fine it might make him realize that he isnt going to die from contact out there. Maybe it would knock his marbles around and he would pick it up.
    Posted by I-Like-Hockey[/QUOTE]
    People want results from Seguin although,last night,he was on a line with the games 2 worst forwards(even Paille was better last night).Say what you want about Seguin but when he was benched in the 3rd,Campbell turned the puck over countless times as his replacement.What's his excuse for turning the puck over more often in 3 shifts than Seguin did in the rest of the game?I'm anxious to hear from the experts on this one.
     
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    Stay the course, let him earn the minutes....im taking this yr as a learning curve, if next yr he plays like this then we have to worry

    besides....if he sits, that usually means Thornton and Paille also sit....and trust me, thats a good thing...play the 9 best players on that night
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Bring up Caron and bench Seguin : People want results from Seguin although,last night,he was on a line with the games 2 worst forwards(even Paille was better last night).Say what you want about Seguin but when he was benched in the 3rd,Campbell turned the puck over countless times as his replacement.What's his excuse for turning the puck over more often in 3 shifts than Seguin did in the rest of the game?I'm anxious to hear from the experts on this one.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    Im with ya. Im hoping that the B's plan is to secure a playoff birth and then let the training wheels of Tyler and let him loose the last few games to get going for the playoffs. Also that they give Recchi a nite or 2 off and give Caron/Suave/Hamil a shot for a call up game or two.
     
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    Seguin was horrible last night.  He looked bewildered and confused.  He should have been placed on the bench.  BTW Ryder's time was reduced as well.  So who knows what went into the decision to reduce Seguin's minutes:  physical ailment, learning curve adjustment, or just the oppositon was tough triggering CJ to play certain players.   Seguin's hockey epoch more than likely will come from one of those games where all the lessons learned are instinctive.  Will it be a week, 6 months, a year, two years, who knows?   Lastly, moves will be made soon.  Call ups more than likely. if Seguin does not pick up his game, he will sit the bench.  Seguin is the prime mover in determining what the Bs do next.  If he is not ready to turn the corner then 10 minutes a game will become his reality.  Sitting during the playoffs will be also.  
     
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      Alot can be said about the fact that he's only 19 now but the fact is, he's not even the best rookie on the Bruins. Grant it Brad Marchand has had 3 years of Pro hockey under his belt, but he does not have the natural skill Seguin brings to the table. The reason Marchand is ahead of Seguin at this time is he has the 1 intangiable that you can't teach HEART. 

     If Seguin is going to reach the level that we all think he can reach ne needs to stop thinking so much and just act. The reason I am saying this is because it is in human nature that if you think about the bad things that can happen you will hesitate and in hockey that half second is the difference between making a play and not.






     
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    [QUOTE]These are the same people who cried and cried and cried that Thornton's progress was being slowed by B's management and that his confidence would be destroyed making him an AHLer at best. None of you know the first thing about what it takes to turn a prospect into a star.  Every time you post that he "seemed" or "seems" or "looks" anything, you are stating that you can read minds and determine thought process from watching someone skate.  Get real.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]
    Amen!

    I know Bruin fans want this guy to go off the charts becuase he's a 2nd pick overall and he may still do that, but at 18 it's pretty tough to make an impact right away without some experience and seasoning.  Only generational players can do that.

    Still think, IMHO, that going back for 1 more year of junior where he could be embarking on a Memorial Cup run, World Junior Championship tournament etc....would have been more beneficial then the limited ice time he got this year plus the fact it burns one year of his RFA eligibility.

    This had to be more a PC decision then a CJ decision, but then again........that would be conjecture on my part.  I like what he can bring, but fans have to be patient.  I don't think he's Stamkos-like yet, Stamkos posted 23 goals in his year along with 23 assists (I think) then took off...

    Personally don't see alot of benefit in having an 18 year old sitting on the bench.
     
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    seguin shy's away from all physical contact-he just pokes his stick around hoping it falls on his blade. maybe he needs to get stronger and gain some confidence- at this point he's a break away specialist- he can only be effective when no one pressures him on the puck...i never understood understood the long term departure of caron, he and seguin should have been competing for playing time all season- will make both of them better
     
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    [QUOTE]Its time. Seguin is not cutting it out there. Turnover after turnover after turnover. As the hurracaines raised their intensity, Seguin became Joe Thornton part 2.  He is suppose to play wing tonight but he keeps wanting to play around the middle area. He seems scared to be close to the boards. Seguin was benched in the last 5 min of the 1st period and the Bruins suddenly started to dominate the hurracaines.  Its time to bring up Caron who can play nhl hockey  Seguin can be that extra forward playing in practice, doing heavy weightlifting, watching tapes, and getting hungry to want to play.  I'm not stating to bench him for the rest of the season but have him earn his minutes on the ice. He looks like a pilon out there right now and i hate his passive attitude. (please don't throw this , he is only 18 rookie crap. Watch Skinner)
    Posted by yaz16[/QUOTE]
     
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    [QUOTE]  Alot can be said about the fact that he's only 19 now but the fact is, he's not even the best rookie on the Bruins. Grant it Brad Marchand has had 3 years of Pro hockey under his belt, but he does not have the natural skill Seguin brings to the table. The reason Marchand is ahead of Seguin at this time is he has the 1 intangiable that you can't teach HEART.   If Seguin is going to reach the level that we all think he can reach ne needs to stop thinking so much and just act. The reason I am saying this is because it is in human nature that if you think about the bad things that can happen you will hesitate and in hockey that half second is the difference between making a play and not.
    Posted by BuckNakie[/QUOTE]

    I agree. Completely over thinking out there. There is also a difference to preventing his pretty boy face to get smashed vs taking an everyday nhl hockey body check to make a play. He is trying to avoid getting hit all together and not holding the puck long enough when necessary

    So my solution once again is bring up Caron, bench Seguin. After a few games of non game play starvation i'm sure he will play more aggressively.

    CJ also has to get his crap together and make it challenging/effective at practice for this kid to get better. Have him play a game "hold the puck against to boards as long as possible" vs Chara and Lucic and forget about making him go through other parts of practice for now. If he is a real hockey player i'm sure he will get sick and tired of being manhandled out of the puck and instead get a little edgier to win battles. 

     
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    Re: Bring up Caron and bench Seguin

    The dreaded Wheeleritis seems to be contagious.
     
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