Canucks GM blames first round loss on January game against the Bruins

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    Someone interviewing Gillis. Q What can you attribute the close game losses to? A "How can any team lose their top winger and still win playoff hockey? Come on tell me". Q The Bruins lost their top winger in Horton and still managed to defeat your more talented team.  A ahhhhhhh........
    Posted by perrysound


    Fcuk that was lame. I promise to do better. Good idea, just didn't get it going.


     
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    http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/canucks-gm-mike-gillis-blames-emotional-regular-season-win-against-bruins-for-teams-struggles.html The "best team in hockey" can't win a first round playoff series because they "wasted too much energy" on one regular season game 4 months ago. Sad. Lame excuse, really. I think the Hodgson-Kassian trade really hurt them. Completely ripped them selves off. Even with Hodgson they still probably lose to the Kings, but it would have been more of a series. How bout then Nucks, eh Null?
    Posted by Bisson1


    Are you f*****g kidding me?
     
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    Let's face it, the nucks just aren't built for playoff hockey, and they act like the rest of the league is in denial about how you should play the game. Yup, they are better than the rest of the league and one day they will all figure it out. 

    HAHA


     
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    just imagine the outrage we would feel if P.C. said anything RESEMBLING these comments. What a total disgrace this is.
     
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    Like it said on that video from another thread 'Because you play Minnesotta and Edmonton....'. 12 games per year against bottom feeders. Maybe they're just not as good as they think they are.
     
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    It's funny, but you'll hear something from most GMs and coaches who have to respond to year-end questions.  I mean, most of the questions are versions of "why didn't you win the Cup?"  To which the only real answer is: we weren't good enough.  "Why weren't you good enough?"  "If I knew the answer to that one, I'd have f---ing done something about it, wouldn't I?"

    Harry used to take the exact opposite approach.  The reason they didn't win was the players didn't execute.  Crazy to think back to how bitter he could be.

     
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    http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/canucks-gm-mike-gillis-blames-emotional-regular-season-win-against-bruins-for-teams-struggles.html The "best team in hockey" can't win a first round playoff series because they "wasted too much energy" on one regular season game 4 months ago. Sad. Lame excuse, really. I think the Hodgson-Kassian trade really hurt them. Completely ripped them selves off. Even with Hodgson they still probably lose to the Kings, but it would have been more of a series. How bout then Nucks, eh Null?
    Posted by Bisson1

    What are you talking about? Hodgson was the 3rd line center, who was replaced by defensive specialist Sammy Pahlson. He was a 12 minute per game player stuck behind Sedin and Kesler!
    The reason they lost was that one of the Sedins missed the first 3 games of the series with a concussion, as well as the final 9 regular season games.

    Losing a former MVP & getting him back when he's not in game shape has far more of an impact than missing a 3rd line center, especially when you replace that center with a better defensive player!
    Jonathan Quick also had a lot to do with Vancouver losing!


     
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    I think most here are taking that interview a bit out of context.  I hate the Canucks as much as anyone, but the point Gillis was attempting to make, is that the team peaked too early, and that the playoff intensity, which is physically and emotionally impossible to maintain over the course of a season...was wasted in January.
     Feeble excuse?  Sure, but right or wrong, that's always been the knock against Europeans.  They come from a culture that places greater emphasis on "the season", and that follows them to the NHL.  Europeans are the foundation of that team, and their best always comes during the regular season.
    To me, Gillis is failing to speak of the obvious when he comes up with this drivel...but in all fairness, the message goes a little deeper than "blaming Boston"
     
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    I have always thought that the only good thing about Gillis is that he cant stand Brian Burke...
     
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    two words.... MENTAL MIDGETS
     
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    Playoff intensity was ... wasted?

    I thought real athletes went the other way -- like, you beat your toughest opponent to, uh, prove that you coulda won the Cup, and you get so psyched up that you kick a** the rest of the season and right into the playoffs.

    I thought winning big games was a good thing for the psyche.

    That team goes nowhere until they blow up management.


     
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    It does explain one thing: if my GM made statements like these, I'd want to burn things, too.
     
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    I think most here are taking that interview a bit out of context.  I hate the Canucks as much as anyone, but the point Gillis was attempting to make, is that the team peaked too early, and that the playoff intensity, which is physically and emotionally impossible to maintain over the course of a season...was wasted in January.  Feeble excuse?  Sure, but right or wrong, that's always been the knock against Europeans.  They come from a culture that places greater emphasis on "the season", and that follows them to the NHL.  Europeans are the foundation of that team, and their best always comes during the regular season. To me, Gillis is failing to speak of the obvious when he comes up with this drivel...but in all fairness, the message goes a little deeper than "blaming Boston"
    Posted by stevegm


    I think you are essentially right about this. However, it is how the media portrayed the interview as well that is adding to this. I watched the full interview and he gave a myriad of reasons which seemes essentially correct. The excerpts used by media outlets summarized and dumbed down what Gillis said which is why the mini controversy came to be. They live for a good controversy. Most people only have the time to read these blurbs and take them at face value.
     
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    i blame van massengill for that january game. 

     
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    In Response to Canucks GM blames first round loss on January game against the Bruins : What are you talking about? Hodgson was the 3rd line center, who was replaced by defensive specialist Sammy Pahlson. He was a 12 minute per game player stuck behind Sedin and Kesler! The reason they lost was that one of the Sedins missed the first 3 games of the series with a concussion, as well as the final 9 regular season games. Losing a former MVP & getting him back when he's not in game shape has far more of an impact than missing a 3rd line center, especially when you replace that center with a better defensive player! Jonathan Quick also had a lot to do with Vancouver losing!
    Posted by Tomahawkchopper


    Not in game shape? He seemed fine in his game back. The Canucks lost because they weren't good enough. There are no excuses in hockey. Oh, and how did the Canucks do for those 9 games with one of the Sedins? Oh that's right, they won almost every game so that they could clinch the President's Trophy again. If Gillis wants to blame anything for not moving on in the playoffs then maybe he should have paced his team in the last 2 weeks so that they would have been rested and ready for the playoffs. Notice how the Bruins did that? It's called good managing. They sat their star players to give them time off to rest and prepare for the playoffs.

    As for Hodgson for Pahlson, Hodgson is on the Sabres. The Sabres had Kassian. Hodgson went to the Sabres for Kassian. Pahlson came from a separate trade. I think that this was a poor decision by the Canucks as I think that Hodgson will be a better player than Kassian.
     
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    Canucks have no answer for Vezina-quality goaltending. Wasn't a team out there last year that was going to beat Tim Thomas in 7. Not a team out there that will beat Quick if he continues to play like he has been. Kings would have been a top seed had they traded for Richards sooner and they started scoring goals. Do you know how many 1-0 games they lost ths year?
     
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    In Response to Canucks GM blames first round loss on January game against the Bruins : What are you talking about? Hodgson was the 3rd line center, who was replaced by defensive specialist Sammy Pahlson. He was a 12 minute per game player stuck behind Sedin and Kesler! The reason they lost was that one of the Sedins missed the first 3 games of the series with a concussion, as well as the final 9 regular season games. Losing a former MVP & getting him back when he's not in game shape has far more of an impact than missing a 3rd line center, especially when you replace that center with a better defensive player! Jonathan Quick also had a lot to do with Vancouver losing!
    Posted by Tomahawkchopper

    Boston played the entire playoffs without their 1st line center (Savard) and most of the finals without their 1st line RW (Horton). That weak excuse won't fly around here.
     
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    I think most here are taking that interview a bit out of context.  I hate the Canucks as much as anyone, but the point Gillis was attempting to make, is that the team peaked too early, and that the playoff intensity, which is physically and emotionally impossible to maintain over the course of a season...was wasted in January.  Feeble excuse?  Sure, but right or wrong, that's always been the knock against Europeans.  They come from a culture that places greater emphasis on "the season", and that follows them to the NHL.  Europeans are the foundation of that team, and their best always comes during the regular season. To me, Gillis is failing to speak of the obvious when he comes up with this drivel...but in all fairness, the message goes a little deeper than "blaming Boston"
    Posted by stevegm


    ....NHL players don't get paid for their participation in the playoffs, true?

    Maybe the effort for some of the Canucks are a little less while competing for the Stanley Cup (essentially a North American trophy) since their pay is done for the season.

    The Canucks loss sure didn't look like lack of effort as much as it was competitive play by the Kings. 'Peaking too early' is really lame though.

    The NHL now has what they have strived for for a long time - parity - between more teams. It is harder to get into the playoffs and it is harder to stay in the playoffs.
     
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    Canucks have no answer for Vezina-quality goaltending. Wasn't a team out there last year that was going to beat Tim Thomas in 7. Not a team out there that will beat Quick if he continues to play like he has been. Kings would have been a top seed had they traded for Richards sooner and they started scoring goals. Do you know how many 1-0 games they lost ths year?
    Posted by davecarr

    Dave, Richards played the whole season in LA.
     
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    Dez, I think he meant Carter.
     
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    Meant Jeff Carter, thank you! Kings lost 6 games 1-0. If they managed a single goal those nights, they would have had 6 more loser points, putting them over aphoenix for 3rd seed. Plus maybe a win or two but who knows. They lost a total of 15 games where they lost 2-1 or 1-0. If they hadnt been anemic with thier goal scoring, they would have been right up there in the conversation for top seeds in the West. THEN THEY WENT OUT AND GOT THE SCORING, Kings were/are a dangerous team with superb goaltending. The only reason they were seeded so low was because of lack of scoring most of the season. It wouldn't surprise me to see them take out St Louis, too
     
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    Re: Canucks GM blames first round loss on January game against the Bruins

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    http://www.nesn.com/2012/04/canucks-gm-mike-gillis-blames-emotional-regular-season-win-against-bruins-for-teams-struggles.html The "best team in hockey" can't win a first round playoff series because they "wasted too much energy" on one regular season game 4 months ago. Sad. Lame excuse, really. I think the Hodgson-Kassian trade really hurt them. Completely ripped them selves off. Even with Hodgson they still probably lose to the Kings, but it would have been more of a series. How bout then Nucks, eh Null?
    Posted by Bisson1

    Just moe loser mentality!
     
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    Meant Jeff Carter, thank you! Kings lost 6 games 1-0. If they managed a single goal those nights, they would have had 6 more loser points, putting them over aphoenix for 3rd seed. Plus maybe a win or two but who knows. They lost a total of 15 games where they lost 2-1 or 1-0. If they hadnt been anemic with thier goal scoring, they would have been right up there in the conversation for top seeds in the West. THEN THEY WENT OUT AND GOT THE SCORING, Kings were/are a dangerous team with superb goaltending. The only reason they were seeded so low was because of lack of scoring most of the season. It wouldn't surprise me to see them take out St Louis, too
    Posted by davecarr

    No prob Dave. I was just trying to get things clearer. Cheers! GO BRUINS!
     
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    Re: Canucks GM blames first round loss on January game against the Bruins

    I like the Kings. I have and will keep saying if there is any way that the B's can get Quick into the spoked B they should do it.

    Imagine adding:

    Parise, Suter, and Quick. While dropping Kelly, Corvo, TT and TR. I love our goalies, but Quick with Khudobin would be intersting. We'd also have to drop some other people and factor in Horton and Savard. But with some tweaking it can be done, not easily, but it can be.

     
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    Re: Canucks GM blames first round loss on January game against the Bruins

    I think Quick is one of the best goalies, but if there is a King that I would love to see in a Bruins jersey, it would be Brown.

     
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