In response to bostonfan191646's comment:
In response to marco0863's comment:
In response to Bookboy007's comment:
There's a wide open shot there re: the number of marco's friends if anyone's interested.
I'll pass on it and just try, try one last thing.
marco, nothing I've posted is trying to discredit Gorton. But it is a known thing that Chiarelli was hired before the draft and briefed the Bruins staff on what he wanted to happen and how he wanted the FA period to go. That's a fact. We do not know the substance of those meetings and we never will. We won't know if Chiarelli said, listen, Jeff: "I want you all in to sign Chara and Savard. I want you to get be Backstrom in the draft and if he's gone, get me Kessel." But we know the meetings happened. We know they were to allow Chiarelli to set the strategy for the most important weeks of the year. Those are facts. That Gorton was still the point man is also a fact, and I give him more credit for getting Lucic and Marchand than Kessel because I can't really see Chiarelli having the foresight to say "at pick 50, get this guy" because who knows if he's still there or not? Gorton gave Chiarelli some good pieces to work with. He executed the game plan exceptionally. I'm surprised he hasn't been a GM since. I liked his work when he was out from O'Connell's shadow.
But you keep defining this as "discredit Gorton" vs. "Gorton is solely responsible for the core" which sounds exactly like the kind of argument you used to make about how great the guy whose gone is vs. the guy who stayed when it was all about Kessel. This thread dies the second you admit that even drafting three good peices is only the tip of the iceberg for a GM to build a cup contender and manage the cap over a five year period. That's all Chiarelli.
Are you not entertained?!?!
all right at least some respectful sense. Not sure what u mean about kessel but that argument will never go anyhwere lets face it u hate kessel- i did say he would become a top 10 point getter and he did many here said he would do nothing in tor.
This was the start of Marco vs the bdc posters feud. U know there are not many players i would take in front of kessel today.( here comes anither feud)
back to gorton he is not soley responsible in building the core but did contribute a big part.
As you mentioned , you were surprised he did not get a gm postion but did land ann assistant gm. In my opinion he would have to have more experience as an assistant gm and his short term as an interim gm may not have been enough to grant him a gm spot.
i need to reiterate - Pc has done a great job with the cap something tallon may have failed at and he has made some great trades and he has been lucky as well - all essential in being a winner.. he is certainly one of the best in the game but am i going to agree with everything he does- hell no!(ex- seguin trade) actually even this trade i wonder how much was cap related.
if you want to know why the tallon situation bears no resemblence to this one with PC...SCROLL UP.
i don't like the seguin trade either.
more interested in knowing why you do not like the seguin trade