Re: Cue the Bugle Corps: The end of Fighting is Near
posted at 10/4/2013 6:18 PM EDT
In response to gord11's comment:
"If you think fighting will be pushed out of the game by those who don't like it you are simply dead wrong." - 'WalkThe Line'
Those who don't like it are exactly the ones who will push it out of the game. It's that simple. That cruel.
But who are the ones who do like it? And why? People here seem to work both sides of the street on this one. Some would speak of fighting here, as this valiant courageous service performed for the betterment of the game by heroic crusaders delivering redemption to the morally corrupt, to the lost souls of the game (to "the Ulf Samuelssons, the Matt Cookes, the Brad Marchands"...).
Others are less philosophical about it, they would cast it and defend it as some kind of god-given "right to entertainment'. They just like to watch it and resent having to feel guilty about it.
Which is it? Is fighting truly providing a useful, indispensible service to the game or is it simply for the entertainment of those it entertains ? I think those who defend their lust for violence with the language of the former - that fighting is a service to the game somehow - are being disingenuous.
I'd almost prefer it if they would just say, "I want fighting kept in the game because I really like to watch two young men fighting."
Its not meant to be for you or i. Its not there to get me in the seats or to keep you away. It is a nec evil bc it is a physical sport where the players are permitted to drop the gloves to let off steam. Ive played in both types of leagues, ive played in goon heavy junior leagues and slash happy non fighting leagues. CIS hockey is a great brand of hockey but the high sticking and slashing dirty stuff is high. Pj stock pointed that out on saturday. He played in that league and the nhl.
Gord, your argument does have some believers, but you are in the minority. Know how i know, bc montreal will sell out every game this year and tickets agaibst the leafs, bruins and sens will be even harder to get. Even if the get rid of fighting was a 50-50 split the players want it. Its going no where. I dont go to a hockey game hoping for a fight. But when Iggy stands up for himself and the building is going nuts i think your stance is nul/void. would you rather iggy take his number and elbow him when the refs arent looking. Pretty sure the hitter knew it was coming and answered the bell. Its hockey, been here long before you and i. Players still want it. Its not going anywhere. So if you stop going to games im sure your 140 seat will be filled. Nothing cruel about it at all. You are a minority. Not that its wrong. Its fact.
Ive been very strong in my opinion to get rid of clowns. I think getting rid of the one dimensional players like scott is possible. But it sure seems like fighting and these non hockey players are finding work. mcgratton continues to find employment. Orr and ST make decent money. Teams want them.