Does "no major changes" = no major name signing?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : So, to be clear, you are suggesting Krecji be traded for more depth on the wings or bottom 6? Is this correct? Would you be adverse to the top three centers being Seguin (1), Bergeron (2), and Peverley (3) or are you one of those that think Kelly or some other "defensive specialist" needs to anchor the third line?
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    No. You would trade him for a top 6 RW, in order to replace Seguin, who assumes the #1 Center spot.
    We can make all the guesses we want, but it only matters what Bruins' management, is thinking.
    If they are happy with Seguin at RW, then he will stay at RW, and Krejci stays as one of the top 2 Centers.
    If they want Seguin to move to his natural Center position, they will have to trade Krejci or Bergeron, to make room at Center, and bring in a top RW.
    There is no way Bergeron gets traded, so that leaves Krejci, as odd man, out. 
    And, since anything management tells the media, only has to do with being 'politically correct', we have no idea what their gameplan, really is.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : No. You would trade him for a top 6 RW, in order to replace Seguin, who assumes the #1 Center spot. We can make all the guesses we want, but it only matters what Bruins' management, is thinking. If they are happy with Seguin at RW, then he will stay at RW, and Krejci stays as one of the top 2 Centers. If they want Seguin to move to his natural Center position, they will have to trade Krejci or Bergeron, to make room at Center, and bring in a top RW. There is no way Bergeron gets traded, so that leaves Krejci, as odd man, out.  And, since anything management tells the media, only has to do with being 'politically correct', we have no idea what their gameplan, really is.
    Posted by biggskye[/QUOTE]

    Biggskye, I have been an advocate of Seguin being moved to center for a while now and obviously have no problem with the move. My question is why Krecji has to be jettisoned in order to make this happen. Depth down the middle is a rare and useful thing to have. Why does it have to be either Seguin or Krecji? Are we just assuming that the third line center has to be a defensive specialist who can chip in a goal on occasion? In reality, Bergeron is the defensive specialist on the team already and plays most of the important minutes on the defensive side of the game as a second line center. This will not change. Why can't the B's have three lines that can be accomplished on both sides of the puck?

    Yes, the team needs a top six goalscorer but trading Krecji to get one is not the only option available.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Biggskye, I have been an advocate of Seguin being moved to center for a while now and obviously have no problem with the move. My question is why Krecji has to be jettisoned in order to make this happen. Depth down the middle is a rare and useful thing to have. Why does it have to be either Seguin or Krecji? Are we just assuming that the third line center has to be a defensive specialist who can chip in a goal on occasion? In reality, Bergeron is the defensive specialist on the team already and plays most of the important minutes on the defensive side of the game as a second line center. This will not change. Why can't the B's have three lines that can be accomplished on both sides of the puck? Yes, the team needs a top six goalscorer but trading Krecji to get one is not the only option available.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    Seguin is going to be making $5-6M.  Bergeron makes $5M.  Krejci makes $5M.  Because of the salary cap, you can't pay a third line center $5M or more. 

    Chris Kelly is a fine third line center and his cap hit was $2.1M. 

    And when has depth down the middle ever been rare?  It seems to me that there are always centers available.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Seguin is going to be making $5-6M.  Bergeron makes $5M.  Krejci makes $5M.  Because of the salary cap, you can't pay a third line center $5M or more.  Chris Kelly is a fine third line center and his cap hit was $2.1M.  And when has depth down the middle ever been rare?  It seems to me that there are always centers available.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    For Boston, yes they have been deep at center for a couple of years now. Not so for many other teams. You would be hardpressed to find a team with three quality centers who can play both sides of the puck. Pittsburg comes to mind. That's about it. Yes there are centers available as with any position but there are few worth picking up.

    As for the salary cap issue, it is yet to be determined if three center's like Seguin, Krejci, and Bergeron each making $5 million is feasible but that scenario is still a season away anyway.

    I am no apologist for Krejci that is sure but suggesting to get rid of him simply because Seguin is ready (and I do believe he is) is not a good enough argument for me unless the return fills a much needed hole in the B's lineup. The need is currently a top six goal scorer and to get one does not necessarily mean trading Krejci. This does not have to be an all or nothing situation.
     
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    Not making major changes is their present line. That is based on Horton returning at 100%. If he doesn't, that's a major change whether they like it or not. They can't have 3 5M centers and they may need a goal scoring wing. I don't care if Perry was last year's MVP or not-he's a proven goal scoring forward who has averaged 35 goals a year for the last 5 years. Anaheim didn't qualify for the playoffs, so they will probably be making major changes. A swap of a wing for a center of equal value might appeal to them. There are no real UFA wings of great scoring ability out there this year. A trade is the only way the Bs will get one and the number of "elite" assets to trade by the Bs is limited. Everyone is expecting Horton back -I'm not. Krejci represents an asset to be traded for the goal scoring wing the Bs may need.
    I didn't have Horton in my lineup. That's a possibility I would plan for.
     
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    [QUOTE]Not making major changes is their present line. That is based on Horton returning at 100%. If he doesn't, that's a major change whether they like it or not. They can't have 3 5M centers and they may need a goal scoring wing. I don't care if Perry was last year's MVP or not-he's a proven goal scoring forward who has averaged 35 goals a year for the last 5 years. Anaheim didn't qualify for the playoffs, so they will probably be making major changes. A swap of a wing for a center of equal value might appeal to them. There are no real UFA wings of great scoring ability out there this year. A trade is the only way the Bs will get one and the number of "elite" assets to trade by the Bs is limited. Everyone is expecting Horton back -I'm not. Krejci represents an asset to be traded for the goal scoring wing the Bs may need. I didn't have Horton in my lineup. That's a possibility I would plan for.
    Posted by PINEwarmer[/QUOTE]

    It is a possibility. Here are the options:

    1. trade Krecji
    2. trade TT or Rask
    3. trade a combination of any of the three above
    4. trade a draft pick, and/or some prospects only
    5. Sign a ufa (especially if Horton is gone for any length of time which would free up even more cap space)

    Plenty of things to consider.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : For Boston, yes they have been deep at center for a couple of years now. Not so for many other teams. You would be hardpressed to find a team with three quality centers who can play both sides of the puck. Pittsburg comes to mind. That's about it. Yes there are centers available as with any position but there are few worth picking up. As for the salary cap issue, it is yet to be determined if three center's like Seguin, Krejci, and Bergeron each making $5 million is feasible but that scenario is still a season away anyway. I am no apologist for Krejci that is sure but suggesting to get rid of him simply because Seguin is ready (and I do believe he is) is not a good enough argument for me unless the return fills a much needed hole in the B's lineup. The need is currently a top six goal scorer and to get one does not necessarily mean trading Krejci. This does not have to be an all or nothing situation.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    Kelly is a fine third line center.  If the B's could keep him at $3M, where would Krejci fit?

    Let's turn the table:  Considering the current roster stays unchanged, how can you justify keeping Krejci?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Kelly is a fine third line center.  If the B's could keep him at $3M, where would Krejci fit? Let's turn the table:  Considering the current roster stays unchanged, how can you justify keeping Krejci?
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    Here is how I personally would do it. I posted this on the thread My Bruins Lineup 2012-13:

    Here it is. My fantasy team. No Parise or Nash or Iginla. Thank you Capgeek.

    L.Wing                 Center                   R.Wing
    Lucic ($4.084mil)   Krejci ($5.25mil)    Horton ($4mil)
    Purcell ($2.363mil) Seguin ($3.55mil)  Peverley ($3.25mil)
    Caron ($1.1 mil)     Bergeron ($5mil)   Marchand ($2.5mil)
    Moss ($1.5mil)       Gaustad ($2.5mil) Thornton ($1.1mil)

    Defence

    Chara ($6.917mil)-Boychuk ($3.36mil)
    Seidenberg ($3.25mil)-Hamilton/Krug ($1.705mil)
    Ference ($2.25mil)-McQuaid ($1.567mil)

    Goaltending

    Rask ($3.750mil)
    Khudobin ($875k)

    Total cap space left (if using 2012 cap) is $4.16 million.

    So, here is what I did. As suggested by OatesCam on another thread I traded TT to TB for Purcell and a pick. Yes, risky but plausible. Then I signed both Gaustad and David Moss for a 10% raise on their 2012 salary. Again, this is a plausible scenario.

    I am expecting one of Krug/Hamilton to make the team so I used capgeeks Krug EL salary as a baseline for one of them. Now, all that is missing is a veteran depth Dman and millions would still be available for in-season adjustments.

    This is, of course, one option of which there are many. I love that the team could have three true lines that can score on a regular basis.

    By the way, before anyone goes into the "why is Bergeron on the third line" thing just let me say that the positioning of the lines is not concrete, the Bergeron line can be considered the second line and he can still be the shutdown guy he has been the past couple of years. The only line that would see a reduced amount of icetime relative to the last few years is the 4rth. I am fine with this, Thornton does not need 10  minutes of icetime a night in my opinion.

     Again, this is just one of many options. Yes there are some presumptions.
     
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    Oh, I'm sorry.  I was talking about reality, not xBox hockey.

    I'll leave you to this discussion.
     
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    [QUOTE]Oh, I'm sorry.  I was talking about reality, not xBox hockey. I'll leave you to this discussion.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    And trading Krecji for Nash is realistic? I am sure CBJ will just jump at that one.

    Everything is speculation at this point and there are many options out there. You asked for a scenario where Krecji can be justified to remain on the team and I provided you one.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : And trading Krecji for Nash is realistic? I am sure CBJ will just jump at that one. Everything is speculation at this point and there are many options out there. You asked for a scenario where Krecji can be justified to remain on the team and I provided you one.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    Any trades for Nash have been ignored by me.

    I stated:

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Kelly is a fine third line center.  If the B's could keep him at $3M, where would Krejci fit? Let's turn the table:  Considering the current roster stays unchanged, how can you justify keeping Krejci?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Any trades for Nash have been ignored by me. I stated: In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? :
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    Well first, in the Realistic Move  thread you stated explicitly:

    Trade Krejci for Nash.

    Even up.

    Win the Cup.

    Yes!

    I consider that to be no more or less realistic than anything I proposed, including trading TT to TB for Purcell and a pick

    But on to your more specific question of where and how Krecji fits  in the present roster.  The question is presuming the complementary pieces do not change; i.e. Pouliot, Kelly, Campbell, Rolston, and Paille. The "current" roster does not actually include them and I do personally not see the necessity of keeping any of them obviously. There are many alternatives as I presented.

    I presume Kelly will not be re-signed because there are already 4 top three centers under contract (Seguin, Krejci, Bergeron, and Peverely). Seguin can be the #1 center, fine. Bergeron is the obvious #2 and he will be, as always, the shutdown guy who can contribute consistent offense, perfect. That leaves Krejci and Peverley. I have no problems with Krecji anchoring a third line and, should Seguin struggle, either Peverely or Krecji can fill in. Minutes distributed among the top three lines can average 17 minutes per game per line (with some such as Bergeron getting more and some like Seguin receiving less depending on the circumstance) while the 4rth line can continue at average 9 minutes or less, I care not.

    As for cap hits, yes Krejci's is a little steep for a potential 3rd liner but, for the moment, it is sustainable. Remember it is not until 2014 which is when Seguin is due his big raise. That leaves one year to retain all of the big three.  Who knows what may transpire in that time.

    In my mind, the biggest issue is getting a top six goalscorer and for the moment that does not have to include getting rid of Krecji. If he is traded then fine, I have no problem with that but there are other options.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Well first, in the Realistic Move   thread you stated explicitly: Trade Krejci for Nash. Even up. Win the Cup. Yes! I consider that to be no more or less realistic than anything I proposed, including trading TT to tB for Purcell and a pick But on to your more specific question of where and how Krecji fits and how in the present roster, that is is presuming the complementary pieces do not change; i.e. Puoliot, Kelly, Campbell, and Paille. I do not see the necessity of keeping any of them obviously. There are many alternatives as I presented. I presume Kelly will not be re-signed because there are already 4 top three centers under contract (Seguin, Krejci, Bergeron, and Peverely). Seguin can be the #1 center, fine. Bergeron is the obvious #2 and he will be, as always the shutdown guy who can contribute consistent offense, perfect. That leaves Krejci and Peverley. I have no problems with Krecji anchoring a third line and, should Seguin struggle, either Peverely or Krecji can fill in. Minutes distributed among the top three lines can average 17 minutes per game per line (with some such as Bergeron getting more and some like Seguin receiving less depending on the circumstance) while the 4rth line can continue at average 9 minutes or less, I care not. As for cap hits, yes Krejci's is a little steep for a potential 3rd liner but, for the moment, it is sustainable. Remember it is not until 2014 when Seguin is due his big raise. That leaves one year to retain all of the big three.  Who knows what may transpire in that time. In my mind, the biggest issue is getting a top six goalscorer and for the moment that does not have to include getting rid of Krecji. If he is traded then fine, I have no problem with that but there are other options.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    I'm guessing he was being sarcastic there.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : I'm guessing he was being sarcastic there.
    Posted by kelvana33[/QUOTE]

    Heh, maybe, tough to tell on blogs for sure.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Any trades for Nash have been ignored by me. I stated: In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? :
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    NAS, are you telling me you wouldnt at least kick the tires on Nash?

    I'm sorry, that was awful.

    I couldnt resist.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : It is a possibility. Here are the options: 1. trade Krecji 2. trade TT or Rask 3. trade a combination of any of the three above 4. trade a draft pick, and/or some prospects only 5. Sign a ufa (especially if Horton is gone for any length of time which would free up even more cap space) Plenty of things to consider.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]Liked your lineup thoughts on other thread. 
    Good options worth a thought. 
    Trading TT or Rask would seem to violate the major change option, but TT for Purcell has been floated. Purcell doesn't yet approach the stats of Perry but he fits a 2nd or 3rd line wing slot. Don't think of him as a #1 wing. The goal for me is to get a top 30 winger for the 1st line. The available pool is small (tiny) and it's a challenge to do it-availablity, assets, and cap space options. Krejci and a goalie represents a major change IMO and wouldn't fit the move.
    Trading a pick and prospects would involve incoming juniors-a major change. Nothing in Providence represents a coveted asset by others-no matter what potential people see. No one is calling PC daily to get anyone off the PBs roster. Hamilton, Spooner, Koko, and Knight would seem to be untouchable, so that option doesn't seem promising.
    As I said, the UFA pool for wingers (especially right wingers) is not special. Top two names on the list of scorers are Doan and Selanne. That is why I don't see PC going the UFA route (except Parise). The high scoring winger to replace Horton just isn't there. Don't have an Xbox, so I can't figure these trades as easily as the young folks.  

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Liked your lineup thoughts on other thread.  Good options worth a thought.  Trading TT or Rask would seem to violate the major change option, but TT for Purcell has been floated. Purcell doesn't yet approach the stats of Perry but he fits a 2nd or 3rd line wing slot. Don't think of him as a #1 wing. The goal for me is to get a top 30 winger for the 1st line. The available pool is small (tiny) and it's a challenge to do it-availablity, assets, and cap space options. Krejci and a goalie represents a major change IMO and wouldn't fit the move. Trading a pick and prospects would involve incoming juniors-a major change. Nothing in Providence represents a coveted asset by others-no matter what potential people see. No one is calling PC daily to get anyone off the PBs roster. Hamilton, Spooner, Koko, and Knight would seem to be untouchable, so that option doesn't seem promising. As I said, the UFA pool for wingers (especially right wingers) is not special. Top two names on the list of scorers are Doan and Selanne. That is why I don't see PC going the UFA route (except Parise). The high scoring winger to replace Horton just isn't there. Don't have an Xbox, so I can't figure these trades as easily as the young folks.  
    Posted by PINEwarmer[/QUOTE]

    I personally am of the mind that PC doesn't do anything at all but sign a couple of 4rth line plugs and qualify Rask and Pouliot in the hopes that the current team can somehow out perform itself. He is not the "big move" kind of guy.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : Well first, in the Realistic Move   thread you stated explicitly: Trade Krejci for Nash. Even up. Win the Cup. Yes!
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]

    As if an overpriced second line center will return a super stud winger.

    Get with it Jim.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does : As if an overpriced second line center will return a super stud winger. Get with it Jim.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]

    heh....in what world? I know.

    I think we all know PC is unlikely to do anything with a even moderate element of risk attached to it anyway. I am not expecting much to be honest.

    The most interesting things that will likely happen is if Hamilton or Krug will stay for the duration of 2012-13, if Caron can find consistency, or if Seguin has a breakthrough season. Perhaps that is all we can expect. PC is not Sather which has both its advantages and drawbacks.
     
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    Seguin is not a #1 center yet. He has very little experience at center thus far in his career. You can't make him the #1 center. He isn't ready for that. Not to mention that he isn't good at faceoffs. I don't see how trading Krejci for depth helps this team. This team doesn't need major changes. I like Parise & would love to have on the Bruins, but he is more of a winger than a center. He isn't a like-for-like move. The most important thing for this team is to get Horton back healthy. He makes Krejci better. He makes Lucic better. I keep hearing people complain about Krejci's struggles and that he should be traded because of it. Well, what about Lucic? He was horrible in the playoffs this year and he didn't do much in the 1st round last year. He hasn't been a great playoff player. If the Bruins wanted to create cap space to sign Parise, they'd be better off trading Lucic. The return would be better and it would create a top line spot for Parise.
     
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    [QUOTE]Seguin is not a #1 center yet. He has very little experience at center thus far in his career. You can't make him the #1 center. He isn't ready for that. Not to mention that he isn't good at faceoffs. I don't see how trading Krejci for depth helps this team. This team doesn't need major changes. I like Parise & would love to have on the Bruins, but he is more of a winger than a center. He isn't a like-for-like move. The most important thing for this team is to get Horton back healthy. He makes Krejci better. He makes Lucic better. I keep hearing people complain about Krejci's struggles and that he should be traded because of it. Well, what about Lucic? He was horrible in the playoffs this year and he didn't do much in the 1st round last year. He hasn't been a great playoff player. If the Bruins wanted to create cap space to sign Parise, they'd be better off trading Lucic. The return would be better and it would create a top line spot for Parise.
    Posted by lordy4[/QUOTE]

    Lucic's goal scoring comes from the play of the center on his line.  He did plenty away from the puck vs. Washington. 

    No one is suggesting trading Krejci for a bottom six player, so "I don't see how trading Krejci for depth helps this team" makes no sense.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does : heh....in what world? I know. I think we all know PC is unlikely to do anything with a even moderate element of risk attached to it anyway. I am not expecting much to be honest. The most interesting things that will likely happen is if Hamilton or Krug will stay for the duration of 2012-13, if Caron can find consistency, or if Seguin has a breakthrough season. Perhaps that is all we can expect. PC is not Sather which has both its advantages and drawbacks.
    Posted by jmwalters[/QUOTE]
    Again, just a thought if PC makes NO changes. This assumes Horton returns at 100%, Seguin does not move to center, and PC promotes from within using Baby Bs and upcoming juniors. Goaltending remains the same. No UFAs return to Boston 

    Lucic-Krejci-Horton
    Marchand-Bergeron-Seguin
    Caron-Peverley-Spooner/Knight/Sauve
    McDermid-Camper-Thornton

    Chara-Boychuk
    Seidenberg-Hamilton/Krug
    Ference-McQuaid
    Cross-Bodnarchuk-Bartkowski

    Thomas
    Rask 
    Khudobin

    Rask is the only RFA to sign with about 8.5M cap space cleared out with the UFA group. Does this lineup look like a SC contender with no changes? Setting aside the question of Horton's recovery, "no changes" doesn't seem like a successful strategy either. Speculating about it is the summer games of forum boards. What's your thought? And Ward staying or leaving would be a major change either way in my mind.

     
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    Caron-Peverley-Spooner/Knight/Sauve
    McDermid-Camper-Thornton

    That's ugly.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does : Again, just a thought if PC makes NO changes. This assumes Horton returns at 100%, Seguin does not move to center, and PC promotes from within using Baby Bs and upcoming juniors. Goaltending remains the same. No UFAs return to Boston  Lucic-Krejci-Horton Marchand-Bergeron-Seguin Caron-Peverley-Spooner/Knight/Sauve McDermid-Camper-Thornton Chara-Boychuk Seidenberg-Hamilton/Krug Ference-McQuaid Cross-Bodnarchuk-Bartkowski Thomas Rask  Khudobin Rask is the only RFA to sign with about 8.5M cap space cleared out with the UFA group. Does this lineup look like a SC contender with no changes? Setting aside the question of Horton's recovery, "no changes" doesn't seem like a successful strategy either. Speculating about it is the summer games of forum boards. What's your thought? And Ward staying or leaving would be a major change either way in my mind.
    Posted by PINEwarmer[/QUOTE]

    Pouliot is an RFA too but unless PC is just looking for warm bodies to fill roster spots or he really can't find an upgrade, I think he is gone.

    Got to agree with NAS on that bottom 6. I just do not think it plausible CJ will want that many rookies playing at the same time. Think about the kid gloves he used for Seguin and Caron the last two years.

    Worst case scenario is signing a couple of low cost, low risk plugs to fill out the fourth line (could be Paille and Campbell or any number of cheaper guys), re-signing Pouliot, and hoping Caron can be a consistent top 9 guy. This is status quo for sure. PC and Cam did say that they are comforable with the existing core but suggested some of the complementary pieces could be upgraded. I am sure we will soon find out what that really means.

    Rask will be re-signed one way or another. He is still their future #1 and an RFA so he will still be around.

    As for Ward? Well, I am sure he is a nice guy but perhaps it is time for a new PP strategist. Not to many would disagree with this. 
     
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    Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Does "no major changes" = no major name signing? : B's management comes out and directly says that they're not making any major changes, and you want the team to trade the #1 center, a defenseman and a draft pick for last year's MVP and a defeseman. Why would Anaheim want a $5M center when they have Getzlaf at #1?  Why would they want to trade a young former first round draft pick for McQuaid?  Why would Anaheim want to trade last year's MVP? None of this makes any sense.
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    Media speculation says Koivu may not return. Selanne most likely will retire since Anaheim will be rebuilding or restructuring next season. Blake is over the hill. They will be in the market for wings and centers. They do not have any major talent after the #1 line and Cogliano is the only other  forward worth trade talk on the roster.  Ryan or Perry would look good in a Bs uniform-both have averaged over 32 goals a season for the last 4 years. DK for either with a  pick either way could be beneficial for both teams. 
    Sbisa was to acquire a Dman with offensive upside that might be developed into a PMD. Sorry. As I said, developing a PMD might be easier than trading for one or chasing an FA player. Neither option has worked over the last 2 years (Crovo, Kaberle). On another thread you said DK for a goal scoring forward was OK with you, so I thought you might approve of this deal.Smile


     

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