Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

  1. You have chosen to ignore posts from red75. Show red75's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    I'd give it to Reimer - he came into the league late in the season, but has played fantastically since.
     
  2. This post has been removed.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bookboy007. Show Bookboy007's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    Fowler's also a true rookie playing second pairing minutes in Anaheim and putting up pretty impressive scoring numbers - same as Carlson even though he's 23 months younger.

    If you don't see Couture as close you weren't paying attention when he was keeping the Sharks from going belly up while the big line floundered.  At 23, Grabner's hardly the seasoned Makarov, and in the end, the criteria for the award don't recognize a difference between true rookies (i.e. no pro experience or even 1st season post-draft) and first year players.  It explicitly focuses on guys who haven't played a season - I can't remember the official cut off but it's high.  So, while I've already said I agree that you have to give Skinner props for his performance as a teenaged pro, in his case it's icing on the cake - like the coin flip at the end of the tie-breaker list.  He's in the discussion on performance regardless of how you frame it.

    Incidentally, Adam McQuaid is +27 and has 13 points despite being thought of as a prototypical stay at home D.  And he'd get the award for best fighter among eligible rookies (no pure goons) - at least, over Hall.....
     
  4. You have chosen to ignore posts from fourrings. Show fourrings's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    Grabnerd
     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from shuperman. Show shuperman's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    Book,

    Grabner should be in play and I actually forgot to mention him in with the 3 guys I listed as my favorites. 
    Couture- thrust into prime time and has how many GWG's?  And I have had the GWG argument before but its a stat.  he basically saved SJ along with Niemi.
    Skinner- hard to argue that one either.
    Crawford- no one mentions him but he has had a great season on a stanley cup winning team in flux. 

    PK- plays  alot of minutes and plays well.  after a slow start he really picked his game up.
    Carlson- my unsung pick b/c he is the teams shutdown dman and plays pp and looks like a true top 4 dman.
    Grabner- should have been there just for the fact of pts.  a lot of meaningless pts.  You ask me why Couture over Grabner.  That is my reason.  Which can be flipped into the Hall debate. 

    My pick is Skinner.  Although I think the most deserving is Carlson.
     
  6. You have chosen to ignore posts from mattman1447. Show mattman1447's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    I'll take Marchand.
     
  7. You have chosen to ignore posts from winexpos. Show winexpos's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    Don't forget about a rookie that just happens to have his team in 1st place in the Eastern Conference, Sergei Bobrovsky.

    I don't think anyone expected a rookie goalie to lead his team to the best record.
     
  8. You have chosen to ignore posts from hangnail. Show hangnail's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    In Response to Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?:
    Don't forget about a rookie that just happens to have his team in 1st place in the Eastern Conference, Sergei Bobrovsky. I don't think anyone expected a rookie goalie to lead his team to the best record.
    Posted by winexpos


    Yikes...did you see Bob last night? Horrible is an understatement. Glad Philly decided not to upgrade that position, it truly is their weak spot and I think will be their downfall. 
     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from rocketdan9. Show rocketdan9's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    Skinner. Its a no brainner. 
     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Bookboy007. Show Bookboy007's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    Why are Grabner's points meaningless?  I presume because the Isles stink?  If so, I wouldn't agree - given the black hole that franchise has been, a guy showing up out of nowhere like Grabner and giving them reason to believe is a slump buster of the highest order.
     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from dezaruchi. Show dezaruchi's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    In Response to Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?:
    Book, Grabner should be in play and I actually forgot to mention him in with the 3 guys I listed as my favorites.  Couture- thrust into prime time and has how many GWG's?  And I have had the GWG argument before but its a stat.  he basically saved SJ along with Niemi. Skinner- hard to argue that one either. Crawford- no one mentions him but he has had a great season on a stanley cup winning team in flux.  PK- plays  alot of minutes and plays well.  after a slow start he really picked his game up. Carlson- my unsung pick b/c he is the teams shutdown dman and plays pp and looks like a true top 4 dman. Grabner- should have been there just for the fact of pts.  a lot of meaningless pts.  You ask me why Couture over Grabner.  That is my reason.  Which can be flipped into the Hall debate.  My pick is Skinner.  Although I think the most deserving is Carlson.
    Posted by shuperman

    It's not really Grabner's fault his goals were meaningless.He want on a tear after winning fastest skater at the all-star break.Seemed like he was scoring every night for awhile there.Interested in seeing if he can do it for a whole season next year.Another high pick coming so the NYI may not be a joke for too much longer.
     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from shuperman. Show shuperman's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    dez,

    The NYI will always be a joke with Snow there.   They have some nice young talent.  But they also had Chara and Spezza and Luongo.
    Now thats a spicey meatball
     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from dezaruchi. Show dezaruchi's posts

    Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?

    In Response to Re: Forget Hall & Seguin - Who wins rookie of the year?:
    dez, The NYI will always be a joke with Snow there.   They have some nice young talent.  But they also had Chara and Spezza and Luongo. Now thats a spicey meatball
    Posted by shuperman

    You can't blame Snow for those deals(Milbury) but I'll admit he's had some issues of his own.
     
Sections
Shortcuts

Share