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    Get some leather

    They are eight games after winning the Cup, and you guys are trading half the team and complaining about the other half.

    It's hockey season, not even 10% in.  Last night's game was fun to watch.  Tomorrow night's game will be fun to watch.

    Bunch of cry babies.

     
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    Agree. Didn't we already throw them under a bus when they lost 11 straight last year? Or dropping the first two against the Habs and Nucks? This is a double sided coin. The season is not made in October. They will start heating up and the other teams will start cooling down and it'll even itself out by January. Then again, these should be the easy wins - Carolina X2, a dead Montreal team. Sucks if we end up missing out by 4-6 points and look back saying - if only we showed up. I think the mindset is "as champ, do everything the same" but you can't.
     
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    Agreed, if the Bs were knocked out in the first round last year, I'd be PO'd but come on guys, relax. It's not like they're getting grossly outmatched, they're just getting out-hustled.

    I'd much rather the team play like this in October than April & May.

    Baby steps away from the ledge.
     
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    I don't think they ever lost 11 straight last year.  But yeah, I think it's time for confidence, not panic.  If I were Julien I would go back to the original lines from the start of the year (maybe Seguin with Bergeron) and re-create the winning formula.  They looked really good to start, just a few 1-goal losses.
     
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    While I'm not panicking I will say that game was not fun to watch. There wasn't a player on the B's that could say they played well. The only fun thing to watch was Subban vs. Marchand.
     
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    [QUOTE]They are eight games after winning the Cup, and you guys are trading half the team and complaining about the other half. It's hockey season, not even 10% in.  Last night's game was fun to watch.  Tomorrow night's game will be fun to watch. Bunch of cry babies.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]
    i'm with ya NAS...it's a looooong season. only 73 games to go!! yikes, people have to relax. i want the bruins to play well, just like everyone else. but seriously, they are losing ONE goal games. it's not like they aren't showing up. they are not finishing their chances, plain and simple. my beloved baltimore orioles were in first place for the first three weeks of this years baseball season...how'd that work out for them? the cream will rise to the top, it always does. I'M still getting used to the fact they captured the prize last season, and it's been 4 months.  i feel like somebody's going to wake me up and let me know it was just a dream.  we have to be patient...this team has EARNED THAT.
     
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    Yup, I agree.  The hangover, team malaise, lethargic play, and whatever will subside with great rebounds of wins. I can handle that scenario.  

    The half full reply, the team is playing like last year.  Many like to point out the road trip circa February 2011 as the turning point in the season when the Bs rattled off 6 victories, what is lost in the sequence of thinking is the Bs then lost three at home. Then returned to the "shootout" regular season which has become accepted in the NHL, stay close win more than you lose.  The Bs have started the season in the same fashion, no need to worry is appropriate but how much margin of error is there if the team continues to lose and not at least win "shootouts"?  So, I temper my negativity with positive thoughts, I then temper my positive thoughts with reality.  The short of the subject is the standings one through eight are pretty much determined by December each year.  
     
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    The team that won the Cup hasn't showed up yet. The one appearing on the ice at the Garden doesn't look like that team. Like most fans, I just want to see 60 minutes of  hockey-not the half-a**ed performances they've been putting on.
     
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    14 pts at this stage last year and 9 the year before.

    It's not a panic but it isn't inspiring either.

    If they can't find the back of the net, it won't get better and we'll keep losing 1 goal games.

    That ain't fun for me.


     
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    [QUOTE]They are eight games after winning the Cup, and you guys are trading half the team and complaining about the other half. It's hockey season, not even 10% in.  Last night's game was fun to watch.  Tomorrow night's game will be fun to watch. Bunch of cry babies.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot[/QUOTE]
    I'm with you Nas. Any fan that was happy enough to rub a Bruins Cup win into people's faces last June should at least have the decency to not throw them under the bus before the schedule has even hit double digits.
     
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    I don't know about trading the whole team, but this start is unacceptable.  To be okay with being in the bottom of the conference because they "will get it" or "just won the cup" is not okay.

    I do think there is some real area of concern, and how long will fans just keep pushing the excuses of, well it's only 10 games in, oh don't worry we are only at 20 games, there are still 74 games left, blah, blah, blah.

    I know it's a long season but you know what they say, catch up hockey is losing hockey, and right now the Bruins are needing to catch up in every area.

    I don't understand why the Bruins are wasting Seguin by playing him with Kelly.  Seguin has set up him a number of times the last few games and Kelly doesn't even come close to finishing.  It's obvious Seguin is a force, he needs to be playing with someone who can finish, not a player who has a career season high of 15 goals.  How the heck is Seguin supposed to thrive in that situation.  Meanwhile playing along side the "injured" Milan Lucic.
     
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    [QUOTE]I don't know about trading the whole team, but this start is unacceptable.  To be okay with being in the bottom of the conference because they "will get it" or "just won the cup" is not okay. I do think there is some real area of concern, and how long will fans just keep pushing the excuses of, well it's only 10 games in, oh don't worry we are only at 20 games, there are still 74 games left, blah, blah, blah. I know it's a long season but you know what they say, catch up hockey is losing hockey, and right now the Bruins are needing to catch up in every area. I don't understand why the Bruins are wasting Seguin by playing him with Kelly.  Seguin has set up him a number of times the last few games and Kelly doesn't even come close to finishing.  It's obvious Seguin is a force, he needs to be playing with someone who can finish, not a player who has a career season high of 15 goals.  How the heck is Seguin supposed to thrive in that situation.  Meanwhile playing along side the "injured" Milan Lucic.
    Posted by FranklinFlyers14[/QUOTE]
    easy...no one here is OK with the start to the season, it's just most of us have a little perspective. to say things like "unacceptable", or as another poster remarked "embarassment"- is crazy. step away from the cliff... it's not really that bad. 
     
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    I think we are all able to make comments on the team and what we think should and shouldn't be done without it being viewed as throwing them under the bus.  Maybe the individuals who are being really negative and saying it is pathetic, should come under a little fire.  Others who think it may be time to make some moves should not necessarily be viewed as negative or jumping off the bandwagon. 

    Some thoughts I have:

    NAS - last night's game was only a good one as far as the closeness of the score and the tilt between Subban and Marchand.  The Bruins played one good period of hockey plus a few decent shifts in the 3rd.  This was not about Carey Price stealing a game.

    I know it is only 9 games but Dez I think you agree - I have seen nothing from Pouliet.  I say cut our losses but perhaps he gets 10 more games to prove himself.  Usually when a guy gets a change of scenery he starts strong and then levels off.  That hasn't happened here.

    I know he is only in his 2nd year but in my opinion CJ needs to play Seguin where he will have the most success.  Why?  Not because he is above the team but because he has the most offensive ability.  The line he is on is better than the one he started on but I still think he should play with Bergeron and Marchand or put him at centre with Marchand and whatever winger you think can play with them and be responsible defensively.  I know Lucic was a 30 goal scorer and Seguin is a passer so it should work from that point of view, but there is nobody on his line with any offensive imagination to support Tyler's game.  Look at St. Louis and Stamkos.  Stamkos is more the shooter and St. Louis the passer, but they both have offensive creativity.  Yes you need to have 3 or 4 good lines to be a great team in the NHL, but most other teams put their best offensive player(s) on the line that is most likely going to score the most goals.

     
    If Seguin moves to centre then maybe you do make a trade, not because the team is underperforming but because you have a lot of strength in one area and need more in another.  Again I am fine with having Bergeron, Krejci and Seguin on the team for years to come but if they could make a deal for a good scoring winger or a young talent and a power play specialist (makes Boston instantly better).  I mean would you consider trading Krejci as part of a deal to get Kyle Turris and Ray Whitney?

    Last but not least, losing because of mistakes - mental or physical is fine but being outworked or not coming to play for 60 minutes is unacceptable win or lose.  I am a big Lucic fan but he is one of the Bruins best players when he is working.  When he isn't he is one of the worst.  He is starting to play better and more consistently but he needs to do that game in and game out.  Again players are going to have off nights but it can't be for lack of effort.  That was my issue with Ryder all last regular season.  I am not blasting Horton but he has not played anywhere close to his ability.  I am not sure if it is the Cup hangover or coming back from the concussion but we need more from him and I am sure he will find his game soon.

    The Bruins are Stanley Cup Champions and I am confident they will turn this season around and make the play-offs.  It is only 9 games into the season and we do need to be a little patient as they recover from the Cupo hangover.  In the meantime however we will all tend to be armchair GM's because that is what we do.

     
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    [QUOTE]I think we are all able to make comments on the team and what we think should and shouldn't be done without it being viewed as throwing them under the bus.  Maybe the individuals who are being really negative and saying it is pathetic, should come under a little fire.  Others who think it may be time to make some moves should not necessarily be viewed as negative or jumping off the bandwagon.



    Hunt, these are the folks I meant when I said that. I'm all for constructive criticism. I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to wanting more but when I see references to the team being pathetic losers it starts to rub me the wrong way. I can only imagine what it'd be like around here if they weren't the reigning champs....
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : easy...no one here is OK with the start to the season, it's just most of us have a little perspective. to say things like "unacceptable", or as another poster remarked "embarassment"- is crazy. step away from the cliff... it's not really that bad. 
    Posted by adkbeesfan[/QUOTE]

    So you do not think that starting off the beginning of the season in 29th place in the entire league is not unacceptable?  I'm not saying that we should jump and run.  I wouldn't do that.  But, I think starting 3 - 6 (2 - 5) at home for the defending champs is in fact unacceptable. 

    I'm not saying the seasons over, I want the Bruins to play better. 

    On the flip side, I've seen way too many posters giving them a pass because they just won the Stanley Cup or it's early in the season.  Heck, I was even doing that for a little while.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : [QUOTE]I think we are all able to make comments on the team and what we think should and shouldn't be done without it being viewed as throwing them under the bus.  Maybe the individuals who are being really negative and saying it is pathetic, should come under a little fire.  Others who think it may be time to make some moves should not necessarily be viewed as negative or jumping off the bandwagon. Hunt, these are the folks I meant when I said that. I'm all for constructive criticism. I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to wanting more but when I see references to the team being pathetic losers it starts to rub me the wrong way. I can only imagine what it'd be like around here if they weren't the reigning champs....
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    I agree 100% with that assessment.  No matter how frustrated someone is as a fan, you can't call a group of guys who are the reigning Stanley Cup Champions, a bunch of losers. 
     
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    [QUOTE] Hunt, these are the folks I meant when I said that. I'm all for constructive criticism. I'm as guilty as anyone when it comes to wanting more but when I see references to the team being pathetic losers it starts to rub me the wrong way. I can only imagine what it'd be like around here if they weren't the reigning champs....
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    I agree with this.  I am just posting as trying to talk about some constructive critism, and dissapointment.  I would have liked to see a better start out of the team.  I think, and I hope they will turn it around.  I will be watching every game this year no matter how it goes, I always do, and I always help.

    I think my biggest frustration with watching the team so far is Seguin not playing with a Center or can finish, (or with two good wingers)
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : So you do not think that starting off the beginning of the season in 29th place in the entire league is not unacceptable?  I'm not saying that we should jump and run.  I wouldn't do that.  But, I think starting 3 - 6 (2 - 5) at home for the defending champs is in fact unacceptable.  I'm not saying the seasons over, I want the Bruins to play better.  On the flip side, I've seen way too many posters giving them a pass because they just won the Stanley Cup or it's early in the season.  Heck, I was even doing that for a little while.
    Posted by FranklinFlyers14[/QUOTE]
    I guess people are laughing at the "unacceptable" part. Whether you want to accept something or not has no bearing on it happenning. No Bruins fan is happy right now but I've accepted it. You didn't. Yet, here we are.......in the same boat.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think we are all able to make comments on the team and what we think should and shouldn't be done without it being viewed as throwing them under the bus.  Maybe the individuals who are being really negative and saying it is pathetic, should come under a little fire.  Others who think it may be time to make some moves should not necessarily be viewed as negative or jumping off the bandwagon.  Some thoughts I have: NAS - last night's game was only a good one as far as the closeness of the score and the tilt between Subban and Marchand.  The Bruins played one good period of hockey plus a few decent shifts in the 3rd.  This was not about Carey Price stealing a game. I know it is only 9 games but Dez I think you agree - I have seen nothing from Pouliet.  I say cut our losses but perhaps he gets 10 more games to prove himself.  Usually when a guy gets a change of scenery he starts strong and then levels off.  That hasn't happened here. I know he is only in his 2nd year but in my opinion CJ needs to play Seguin where he will have the most success.  Why?  Not because he is above the team but because he has the most offensive ability.  The line he is on is better than the one he started on but I still think he should play with Bergeron and Marchand or put him at centre with Marchand and whatever winger you think can play with them and be responsible defensively.  I know Lucic was a 30 goal scorer and Seguin is a passer so it should work from that point of view, but there is nobody on his line with any offensive imagination to support Tyler's game.  Look at St. Louis and Stamkos.  Stamkos is more the shooter and St. Louis the passer, but they both have offensive creativity.  Yes you need to have 3 or 4 good lines to be a great team in the NHL, but most other teams put their best offensive player(s) on the line that is most likely going to score the most goals.   If Seguin moves to centre then maybe you do make a trade, not because the team is underperforming but because you have a lot of strength in one area and need more in another.  Again I am fine with having Bergeron, Krejci and Seguin on the team for years to come but if they could make a deal for a good scoring winger or a young talent and a power play specialist (makes Boston instantly better).  I mean would you consider trading Krejci as part of a deal to get Kyle Turris and Ray Whitney? Last but not least, losing because of mistakes - mental or physical is fine but being outworked or not coming to play for 60 minutes is unacceptable win or lose.  I am a big Lucic fan but he is one of the Bruins best players when he is working.  When he isn't he is one of the worst.  He is starting to play better and more consistently but he needs to do that game in and game out.  Again players are going to have off nights but it can't be for lack of effort.  That was my issue with Ryder all last regular season.  I am not blasting Horton but he has not played anywhere close to his ability.  I am not sure if it is the Cup hangover or coming back from the concussion but we need more from him and I am sure he will find his game soon. The Bruins are Stanley Cup Champions and I am confident they will turn this season around and make the play-offs.  It is only 9 games into the season and we do need to be a little patient as they recover from the Cupo hangover.  In the meantime however we will all tend to be armchair GM's because that is what we do.
    Posted by huntbri[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : I guess people are laughing at the "unacceptable" part. Whether you want to accept something or not has no bearing on it happenning. No Bruins fan is happy right now but I've accepted it. You didn't. Yet, here we are.......in the same boat.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    Of course I accept the fact that they are 3-6.

    Unacceptable doesn't just mean, whether or not I believe it's a fact, it means their play to this point has been unsatisfactory.
     
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    [QUOTE]While I'm not panicking I will say that game was not fun to watch. There wasn't a player on the B's that could say they played well. The only fun thing to watch was Subban vs. Marchand.
    Posted by callodthedom19[/QUOTE]

    I agree with you call.  However, I will say that TT is the only player that played well.  I am not someone that is saying blow up the team.  However, I feel that an excuse has been made by the media and more importantly by the front office by confirming and using "stanley cup hangover".  Whether you believe it to be true or not, it doesn't matter!  What does matter is that it is an easy way out for the players.  If you keep telling yourself you have a hangover, you are going to have a hangover!  
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : Of course I accept the fact that they are 3-6. Unacceptable doesn't just mean, whether or not I believe it's a fact, it means their play to this point has been unsatisfactory.
    Posted by FranklinFlyers14[/QUOTE]
    That word certainly makes mor sense. I'll agree with you on that one.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : I agree with this.  I am just posting as trying to talk about some constructive critism, and dissapointment.  I would have liked to see a better start out of the team.  I think, and I hope they will turn it around.  I will be watching every game this year no matter how it goes, I always do, and I always help. I think my biggest frustration with watching the team so far is Seguin not playing with a Center or can finish, (or with two good wingers)
    Posted by FranklinFlyers14[/QUOTE]

    I agree with you on the Seguin item.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : I agree with you call.  However, I will say that TT is the only player that played well.  I am not someone that is saying blow up the team.  However, I feel that an excuse has been made by the media and more importantly by the front office by confirming and using "stanley cup hangover".  Whether you believe it to be true or not, it doesn't matter!  What does matter is that it is an easy way out for the players.  If you keep telling yourself you have a hangover, you are going to have a hangover!  
    Posted by MeanE[/QUOTE]

    Good point. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : So you do not think that starting off the beginning of the season in 29th place in the entire league is not unacceptable?  I'm not saying that we should jump and run.  I wouldn't do that.  But, I think starting 3 - 6 (2 - 5) at home for the defending champs is in fact unacceptable.  I'm not saying the seasons over, I want the Bruins to play better.  On the flip side, I've seen way too many posters giving them a pass because they just won the Stanley Cup or it's early in the season.  Heck, I was even doing that for a little while.
    Posted by FranklinFlyers14[/QUOTE]
    sample size is too small....it's been NINE GAMES! what's UNACCEPTABLE is a fan base that zero patience, and panics after EVERY LOSS. i should be used to this by now, but it still drives me nuts. i'm guessing you were one of the "fans" who threw them under the bus after going down 0-2 to montreal. no awards are given out in OCTOBER...i'll be glad to have a "state of the bruins" conversation with you, give it another month or two.  
     
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