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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : That word certainly makes mor sense. I'll agree with you on that one.
    Posted by dezaruchi[/QUOTE]

    Rock n' Roll, and I agree with you on not calling the team pathetic losers, I would like to see some more grit out of the team as a whole (and some more finishing)  I am still hopeful. 

    There have been plenty of panic times last year and they Bruins found there way out of it. 

    Hopefully they start on Saturday by beating up on the Habs!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : sample size is too small....it's been NINE GAMES! what's UNACCEPTABLE is a fan base that zero patience, and panics after EVERY LOSS. i should be used to this by now, but it still drives me nuts. i'm guessing you were one of the "fans" who threw them under the bus after going down 0-2 to montreal. no awards are given out in OCTOBER...i'll be glad to have a "state of the bruins" conversation with you, give it another month or two.  
    Posted by adkbeesfan[/QUOTE]

    Read my other posts as I qaulified my unacceptable by saying I should have used the word unsatifactory or dissapointed.  That is the way I feel about it right now.  I'm not saying the season is over, but to start 3-6 is very dissapointing to me, and to many other fans.

    I am still hopeful, and I think with some changes the team could have a better record and be playing even better.  That is all.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : Read my other posts as I qaulified my unacceptable by saying I should have used the word unsatifactory or dissapointed.  That is the way I feel about it right now.  I'm not saying the season is over, but to start 3-6 is very dissapointing to me, and to many other fans. I am still hopeful, and I think with some changes the team could have a better record and be playing even better.  That is all.
    Posted by FranklinFlyers14[/QUOTE]
    i would feel a whole lot worse if they were getting blown out, and the goalies were playing horrible. the truth of the matter is this team very well could be 6-3 right now. they are losing one goal games, they are not giving up odd-man rushes, as a matter of fact i bet they've had more scoring chances than their opposition over the first 9 games. they are just not finishing those chances. i just really believe we should cut this team a little slack. "the stanley cup hangover" is a real thing, and they need to work themselves out of it, sooner rather than later.
     
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    Look, I don't want to see any major trades and I don't want to throw any of the Bruins under a bus.
    I'm not expecting an easy repeat or a near perfect record. Heck, I could even live with something approaching .500 at this stage. But a .333 record for a superbly talented and largely unchanged Stanley Cup winning team is not acceptable. D*mn it is frustrating.

     
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    At the 10% point of last years play-offs, the Bruins were down 0-2 and wound up Stanley Cup Champs.

    At the 10% point of this new season, they have one of the worst records in the league; it's only a matter of time before they move up the standings.

    Does anyone honestly think the Bruins won't work things out? How soon we forget!
     
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    [QUOTE]At the 10% point of last years play-offs, the Bruins were down 0-2 and wound up Stanley Cup Champs. At the 10% point of this new season, they have one of the worst records in the league; it's only a matter of time before they move up the standings. Does anyone honestly think the Bruins won't work things out? How soon we forget!
    Posted by Wheatskins[/QUOTE]

    Despite my b*tchin do I think things should work out. But, Cup or no Cup, those ghosts of Bruins blunders past keep buzzing around my head.
     
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    [QUOTE]Yup, I agree.  The hangover, team malaise, lethargic play, and whatever will subside with great rebounds of wins. I can handle that scenario.   The half full reply, the team is playing like last year.  Many like to point out the road trip circa February 2011 as the turning point in the season when the Bs rattled off 6 victories, what is lost in the sequence of thinking is the Bs then lost three at home. Then returned to the "shootout" regular season which has become accepted in the NHL, stay close win more than you lose.  The Bs have started the season in the same fashion, no need to worry is appropriate but how much margin of error is there if the team continues to lose and not at least win "shootouts"?  So, I temper my negativity with positive thoughts, I then temper my positive thoughts with reality.  The short of the subject is the standings one through eight are pretty much determined by December each year.  
    Posted by islamorada[/QUOTE]

    I'm kinda like you.  We're not at a critical juncture, but it is serious. 
    Panic is an emotion that shouldn't apply to pro sport.  Blindness aint great either.
    Perhaps my greatest  concern is the Bruins schedule from mid Feb on out.
    Almost every other day.  A playoff type grind.  A lot of back to back games.    Injuries are more prevalent with that schedule. 
    These are the easy ones, and I'm getting uncomfortable.  There's a price to be paid for the gratuitous schedule handed the B's over the first 6 weeks of the season.
    Maybe that's a good thing.
    Don't think so though.
    Over the next 11 games, these guys have to go on a tear.  20 games in, about 1/4 of the season provides a pretty good picture.  An 8-1-2 record, gives em 24 points total.  That's a wildly successful stretch, and we're still about on the bubble.  Sure some teams at the top will falter, but the Bruins aren't the only buried team that will start finding more success.
    The teams current woes, are nothing compared to those they overcame last spring, but it's important to remember that those hurdles have virtually never been overcome in the past...ever.
    Time to get her goin.  It's not sustainable to play playoff hockey for 5 or 6 months.  A 5/6/0 record over the next 11 games will neccesitate that kind of focus to merely qualify.
     
     
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    When you go line to line there are only a few replaceable parts in that Pouliot has not shown enough; and the 4th line seems to be in disarray, but should straighten out, although everyone knows I would rather see skill than pugilistic encores. On defense last night it appeared that someone threw a switch and every defenseman started to hold the puck too long; make poor passes; misplay the puck; and flinch away from the Montreal speedsters. That is not typical of this team, so let's sit back and borrow some of Chiarelli's patience which might include a good single malt swallow or two.
     
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    I think the problem (not with the team, but with the fan base) are the expectations following last year.

    "The team that won the Cup hasn't shown up yet".  Of course not -- it's unrealistic to expect a team to play 82 games at the same level of intensity as the 7 games of the Cup Final.  Any team attempting to do so would be burned out by mid-November. The last recollection of fans, prior to the start of this season, was the level of play back in June.  So, they naturally expect the team to pick up right where they left off, which is illogical. (Well, except for the Canucks, who actually ARE playing the way they finished last season).

    Of the 4 Conference Finalists, only TB is "in a playoff spot" right now (for all that means in October), and they're only 4-4-2.  Does anyone doubt that these teams have the talent to finish top 4 in their conferences?  Based on last year's results, does anyone question their determination or fortitude? 

    My team is also struggling -- I am trying hard to adopt a "just watch the game, and don't look at the standings until mid-November" attitude.  But it's definitely tough.
     
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    I have to agree with the OP.  I think there is exactly one guy who should be sent packing -- Geoff Ward.  After that, everyone needs to relax and be patient with a team that can obviously get it done.  They have been frustrating to watch so far, but tomorrow night will be fun and this team has 'late bloomer' written all over it.  Leave the roster slone.
     
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    Being a realist, this start is a HUGE deal.

    Name me one team in the East that isn't better on paper. Points in every game are going to be much harder to come by, and losing to the likes of Colorado and Carolina only highlight that fact.

    When the difference between the 3-4 seed and 9-10 is historically 3 or 4 wins, a start like this is alarming.

     
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    [QUOTE]Being a realist, this start is a HUGE deal. Name me one team in the East that isn't better on paper. Points in every game are going to be much harder to come by, and losing to the likes of Colorado and Carolina only highlight that fact. When the difference between the 3-4 seed and 9-10 is historically 3 or 4 wins, a start like this is alarming.
    Posted by asmaha[/QUOTE]

    Florida, Toronto, Carolina, NY Islanders, Winnipeg, Montreal, just to rattle off a few.

    Compare the standings last year after 8 games to the eventual playooff standings.

    The point though, is that even if the Bruins are in trouble, what is the best recourse after 8 games?  Trading away the Stanley Cup roster, or trying to find the execution and motivation needed to go with the proven talent on the roster.  I think the latter.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : i would feel a whole lot worse if they were getting blown out, and the goalies were playing horrible. the truth of the matter is this team very well could be 6-3 right now. they are losing one goal games, they are not giving up odd-man rushes, as a matter of fact i bet they've had more scoring chances than their opposition over the first 9 games. they are just not finishing those chances. i just really believe we should cut this team a little slack. "the stanley cup hangover" is a real thing, and they need to work themselves out of it, sooner rather than later.
    Posted by adkbeesfan[/QUOTE]


    I don't think anyone is suggesting "no slack'.  Many are just tired of the 'hangover " excuses....as if that means everything will just all of a sudden work out...guaranteed.
     adkbees, you want it both ways.  You say the "hangover is a "real thing", then say the B's aren't "giving up odd man rushes",  and that the B's are having "more scoring chances than the opposition".
    Those are two polar opposite scenario's.  A hangover is what prevents a team from doing the things you describe above.
     One can express concern without being an alarmist or fair weather fan.  After going down 0-2 to montreal last spring, Lucic matter of factly said they were in deep trouble.  He wasn't being defeatist, or panicy.  He was showing awareness, and one needs that when attempting to alter unwanted results.
    Maybe i'm over sensitized, but I see people playing the "hangover" card, out of context all the time.  Those same people normally would be going out of their mind with this start....but they're comforted by the "hangover" and the following magic, undoubtedly just around the corner.
    Fact is...this team is out of mulligans for the next month.  They gotta put a streak together.  If the results of their next 9 games is the same as the last 9...they're pretty much buried.

    That's not negativity, or lack of faith.  Just the understanding that everybody's had their hangover...been allowed their hangover, and are now expected to be symptom free.
    If not, the resulting illnesses will be much more acute than a hangover.
     
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    [QUOTE]I have to agree with the OP.  I think there is exactly one guy who should be sent packing -- Geoff Ward.  After that, everyone needs to relax and be patient with a team that can obviously get it done.  They have been frustrating to watch so far, but tomorrow night will be fun and this team has 'late bloomer' written all over it.  Leave the roster slone.
    Posted by Fletcher1[/QUOTE]

    I'm concerned...but mainly because I pretty much agree with you.  I'd hate to see a knee jerk trade.  I think maybe these guys can get it done,  however, they can't frig around anymore till they get some wins. I wrote before the season started, my concern in not replacing Recchi and Ryder.  Without their scoring last year, the B's would have been 26th out of 30 in NHL team scoring.  Both chipped in 6 game winning goals last year.  That could be 12 less wins....assuming the B's would've got points in half of those...they still miss the playoffs.
    I see no reason for despair, but I don't see much to be cocky about either.
     
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    [QUOTE]I think we are all able to make comments on the team and what we think should and shouldn't be done without it being viewed as throwing them under the bus.  Maybe the individuals who are being really negative and saying it is pathetic, should come under a little fire.  Others who think it may be time to make some moves should not necessarily be viewed as negative or jumping off the bandwagon.  Some thoughts I have: NAS - last night's game was only a good one as far as the closeness of the score and the tilt between Subban and Marchand.  The Bruins played one good period of hockey plus a few decent shifts in the 3rd.  This was not about Carey Price stealing a game. I know it is only 9 games but Dez I think you agree - I have seen nothing from Pouliet.  I say cut our losses but perhaps he gets 10 more games to prove himself.  Usually when a guy gets a change of scenery he starts strong and then levels off.  That hasn't happened here. I know he is only in his 2nd year but in my opinion CJ needs to play Seguin where he will have the most success.  Why?  Not because he is above the team but because he has the most offensive ability.  The line he is on is better than the one he started on but I still think he should play with Bergeron and Marchand or put him at centre with Marchand and whatever winger you think can play with them and be responsible defensively.  I know Lucic was a 30 goal scorer and Seguin is a passer so it should work from that point of view, but there is nobody on his line with any offensive imagination to support Tyler's game.  Look at St. Louis and Stamkos.  Stamkos is more the shooter and St. Louis the passer, but they both have offensive creativity.  Yes you need to have 3 or 4 good lines to be a great team in the NHL, but most other teams put their best offensive player(s) on the line that is most likely going to score the most goals.   If Seguin moves to centre then maybe you do make a trade, not because the team is underperforming but because you have a lot of strength in one area and need more in another.  Again I am fine with having Bergeron, Krejci and Seguin on the team for years to come but if they could make a deal for a good scoring winger or a young talent and a power play specialist (makes Boston instantly better).  I mean would you consider trading Krejci as part of a deal to get Kyle Turris and Ray Whitney? Last but not least, losing because of mistakes - mental or physical is fine but being outworked or not coming to play for 60 minutes is unacceptable win or lose.  I am a big Lucic fan but he is one of the Bruins best players when he is working.  When he isn't he is one of the worst.  He is starting to play better and more consistently but he needs to do that game in and game out.  Again players are going to have off nights but it can't be for lack of effort.  That was my issue with Ryder all last regular season.  I am not blasting Horton but he has not played anywhere close to his ability.  I am not sure if it is the Cup hangover or coming back from the concussion but we need more from him and I am sure he will find his game soon. The Bruins are Stanley Cup Champions and I am confident they will turn this season around and make the play-offs.  It is only 9 games into the season and we do need to be a little patient as they recover from the Cupo hangover.  In the meantime however we will all tend to be armchair GM's because that is what we do.
    Posted by huntbri[/QUOTE]

    Best post I've read in a while - nice job huntbri

    I'd like to see Seguin at center also, BUT he's got to start battling a little more and stick his nose in there. Tricky fly-bys with some stick work ain't gonna get it done. I am a Seguin supporter, but he's got to get more engaged. He has great enthusiasm with the puck on his stick in the middle of the ice. Along the boards or in some traffic - not so much...it's time to step up -
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : Best post I've read in a while - nice job huntbri I'd like to see Seguin at center also, BUT he's got to start battling a little more and stick his nose in there. Tricky fly-bys with some stick work ain't gonna get it done. I am a Seguin supporter, but he's got to get more engaged. He has great enthusiasm with the puck on his stick in the middle of the ice. Along the boards or in some traffic - not so much...it's time to step up -
    Posted by JWensink[/QUOTE]

    Thanks JW.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : Best post I've read in a while - nice job huntbri I'd like to see Seguin at center also, BUT he's got to start battling a little more and stick his nose in there. Tricky fly-bys with some stick work ain't gonna get it done. I am a Seguin supporter, but he's got to get more engaged. He has great enthusiasm with the puck on his stick in the middle of the ice. Along the boards or in some traffic - not so much...it's time to step up -
    Posted by JWensink[/QUOTE]

    Also I am a big Seguin fan (that is pretty obvious) and I think he has done a better job this year, battling for pucks and taking the body, but I agree it is still not always consistent.  I think for the most part however that he has been playing very well this year, but last night other than a few moments he was not very noticeable.  I also noticed he was doing the fly-bys a little more.  I hope it was just an off night and not him starting to go back to old habits and forgetting what made him so successful in his first 8 games.
     
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    Not arguing with CJ's moves here. Bergeron-Seguin-Marchand makes sense. Kelly-Peverly-Caron/Paille makes sense. Lucic-Horton-Krejci makes sense. Pouliot has performed like a 4th liner-put him there. Paille can't be any worse than either Pouliot or Caron on the 3rd line. The Bs didn't blow through the playoffs. 25 of a potential 28 games tells me they were not mowing down the opposition. This was a team that worked their butts off and seized every opportunity to win they found. That's the team I want to see on the ice. Not the "20 minutes and where's the party attitude" they seem to have right now.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : Also I am a big Seguin fan (that is pretty obvious) and I think he has done a better job this year, battling for pucks and taking the body, but I agree it is still not always consistent.  I think for the most part however that he has been playing very well this year, but last night other than a few moments he was not very noticeable.  I also noticed he was doing the fly-bys a little more.  I hope it was just an off night and not him starting to go back to old habits and forgetting what made him so successful in his first 8 games.
    Posted by huntbri[/QUOTE]

    Agreed - Like I said in a previous post...nobody would expect him to play like Milan Lucic, BUT he does have to play like Patrice Bergeron. Thus far he hasn't, and that's the only thing holding him back from living up to his immense talent.
     
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    Agreed it is a long season. I don't want any trades I just want this team to give an honest effort each night. Remember games in Oct and Nov count the same as games in Mar and Apr. 
     
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    Disappointing start, but results are not a huge surprise given the low scoring:

    The Bad:
    Averaging 2.11 goals per game (26th in the NHL)
    PP is 13.5% (24th)
    Krejci: 6gp 1-0-1 -5
    Marchand, Peverley, Horton: each with 4 pts in 9gp
    Thornton: -4
    Seidenberg: -5
    Campbell, Pouliot, Thornton, Caron, Paile combined: 39gp 1-0-1 -15

    The Good:
    2.33 GAA (8th)
    PK is 88.6% (6th)
    FO% is 54.5% (2nd)
    Seguin: 9gp 3-6-9 +7
    Thomas & Rask strong play

    The season is marathon, not a sprint, but they need to get it in gear real soon.
     
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    In Response to Re: Get some leather:[QUOTE] no need to worry is appropriate but how much margin of error is there if the team continues to lose and not at least win "shootouts"?  So, I temper my negativity with positive thoughts, I then temper my positive thoughts with reality.  The short of the subject is the standings one through eight are pretty much determined by December each year.  Posted by islamorada[/QUOTE]

    So PC cannot allow the Bruins to get too far under .500 because of that small margin for error. Chiarelli will have to make a decision shortly.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : Florida, Toronto, Carolina, NY Islanders, Winnipeg, Montreal, just to rattle off a few. Compare the standings last year after 8 games to the eventual playooff standings. The point though, is that even if the Bruins are in trouble, what is the best recourse after 8 games?  Trading away the Stanley Cup roster, or trying to find the execution and motivation needed to go with the proven talent on the roster.  I think the latter.
    Posted by Fletcher1[/QUOTE]

    Sorry...we just disagree on this. The talent in the East is better top to bottom compared to years past. The rosters (on paper) and early season records (reality) attest to this. I strongly felt at the start of the season, and still do, that the bottom-feeders will earn more points this season and the gaps will shrink even more than years past. And that's with teams 9-11 already usually only being 2 or 3 points out of it.

    As Isla said, the standings come December 1st will set the stage for the rest of the season, and it'll be incredibly difficult to gain too much ground less an epic winning streak happens. I expect 1-2 teams to go on a terrible losing streak and take themselves out of it (traditionally NYI and ATL/WPG do this), but the rest of the league is better than last year.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Get some leather : I'm concerned...but mainly because I pretty much agree with you.  I'd hate to see a knee jerk trade.  I think maybe these guys can get it done,  however, they can't frig around anymore till they get some wins. I wrote before the season started, my concern in not replacing Recchi and Ryder.  Without their scoring last year, the B's would have been 26th out of 30 in NHL team scoring.  Both chipped in 6 game winning goals last year.  That could be 12 less wins....assuming the B's would've got points in half of those...they still miss the playoffs. I see no reason for despair, but I don't see much to be cocky about either.
    Posted by stevegm[/QUOTE]

    i think seguin will score a few of those goals.
     

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