All you lawyers and pro-union members will get a kick out this story.
In a nutshell since the players union is not recognized by the Labor Laws in Quebec the Hab players cannot get locked out and with a few steps and petition the Habs will have to pay their players with the current CBA.
Gotta love a province where the Unions rule, Quebec !
Here's the link:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Players+move+block+lockout/7215111/story.html
Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
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Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 8:38 AM EDT
- BsLegion
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Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 10:16 AM EDT
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I love it. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 10:30 AM EDT
- Kennedy97
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That's one way to get the Cup back for the first time since 1993...be the only team not locked out.
Great strategy! Not even Scott Gomez's contract can stop them now! -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 11:00 AM EDT
- stevegm
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if this nonsense does in fact occur, it puts the heat on at least one NHL team to get a deal going. so hard to make much from negotiations thus far, but if we don't see some meaningfull concessions from both sides in the next week, this thing could get real ugly. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 11:04 AM EDT
- lambda13
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It additionally occured to me that without ticket sales revenues the Candians owner would have to dig into his own pockets to pay the players if this happens. This just keeps getting better and better in my mind.
Does apply to any other Canadian teams or is it just Montreal? -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 11:31 AM EDT
- BadHabitude
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Anyone willing to look it up in the rule book? If the other team doesn't show up/refuses to get on the ice, what happens?
Or can the whole NHL season & all teams only play in Quebec? -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 1:38 PM EDT
- Rufus604
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Quite interesting if this actually worked. Habs would have to pay the players salaries but they would have no one to play against and could not go play in other leagues. Also since the players salaries would be 100% loss of profit, would this loss have to be absorbed by every other owner in the league due to the current profit sharing rules or just to the Canadiens owners because there is no collective bargaining agreement? -
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posted at 9/10/2012 1:51 PM EDT
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I'm all for that. If the owners have to jointly cover the salaries that makes it even better. -
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posted at 9/10/2012 4:32 PM EDT
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Love it. I hope they don't seperate until this is over. Then we can send the Habs to Haiti. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 9:02 PM EDT
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In response to lambda13's comment:It additionally occured to me that without ticket sales revenues the Candians owner would have to dig into his own pockets to pay the players if this happens. This just keeps getting better and better in my mind.
Does apply to any other Canadian teams or is it just Montreal?
Not too sure, maybe Alberta has similar labor laws. Stuke50? Nite ?
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Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/10/2012 11:26 PM EDT
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Everyone who hates unions is just jealous that they aren't in one. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/11/2012 1:38 AM EDT
- Orrthebest
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In response to Rufus604's comment:Quite interesting if this actually worked. Habs would have to pay the players salaries but they would have no one to play against and could not go play in other leagues. Also since the players salaries would be 100% loss of profit, would this loss have to be absorbed by every other owner in the league due to the current profit sharing rules or just to the Canadiens owners because there is no collective bargaining agreement?
Montreal can choose not to pay the players, the NHL then has the right to assume the player contracts and can lock them out. Then the NHL can then add a clause in the new CBA allowing them to assign the players back to Montreal. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/11/2012 11:47 AM EDT
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In response to kelvana33's comment:Everyone who hates unions is just jealous that they aren't in one.
aha ! I knew it : )
in Quebec the unions are too strong and political but that's a whole new animal to get into on a hockey forum.
BTW the Flames and the Oilers can file the same .
what could we call this new league, Montreal, Calgary, Edmonton ?
They'll just play against each other till the NHL resumes. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/11/2012 11:57 AM EDT
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According to Gary Lawless, the NHLPA is looking at doing a similar filing in Manitoba. Ontario's labour board has already rejected such a filing, not sure about the Canucks - the labour laws out here in BC are a confusing mess. -
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posted at 9/11/2012 2:19 PM EDT
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Lol'd at all the Bettman/canadian hockey jabs on the TSN boards. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/11/2012 4:22 PM EDT
- SoxFanInIL
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Outside of forcing the Habs' management to pay their players and possibly leaving the door unlocked at the rink, how does this change anything? The Habs wouldn't have anyone to play.
Given the fact that the owners have proven they are not all in agreement on some of the key issues (mostly big market vs small market) why would the rest of the clubs give a hoot if Montreal (or Calgary or Edmonton) ends up paying their players?
I don't see this affecting the lockout in any way. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/11/2012 4:24 PM EDT
- SoxFanInIL
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In response to BadHabitude's comment:Anyone willing to look it up in the rule book? If the other team doesn't show up/refuses to get on the ice, what happens?
If the other team doesnt show up or refuses to play, they forfeit. However, in this case, the case will not schedule a game between Montreal and a locked out club in the first place. -
Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/13/2012 1:16 PM EDT
- BsLegion
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Tomorrow morning at 1030am some of the Hab players have a meeting with the Quebec labor board in the case they'll be lockout and how to move forward.
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posted at 9/13/2012 4:32 PM EDT
- BadHabitude
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Quebec - and Alberta also.
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Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/15/2012 7:31 PM EDT
- BadHabitude
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And this is dead. It's been thrown out of court.
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Re: Habs prepared to use Quebec's Labor Laws to avoid being locked out.
posted at 9/15/2012 9:50 PM EDT
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I wonder if the lockout players ever get together and think about renting out rinks and doing stuff like a skills competition etc..Pretty sure that would draw a crowd, especially north of the border.
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posted at 9/15/2012 11:29 PM EDT
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bump