Hamilton draws first blood

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    Hamilton draws first blood

    Doug Hamilton scores OT winner plus 2 helpers. First Star of game.

    Niagara 3, London 2

    Heard parts of the game on radio. Did not see any of it.

    Is everyone looking for help on the PP?
     
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    I really believe that Dougie will be a BRUIN next season...wow what a player he is ! Stanley Cup to the BRUINS in 2011 and 2013
     
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    It's pretty exciting to see him playing like this. I think he may have the biggest debut of a young NHL D since Phaneuf.
     
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    Normally I would want these younger players to be in the AHL and log minutes, but he's one I want to see in Boston on the 3rd pairing and work through his game with the big boys.

    Would love to see him with Ference, who's as responsible as they come and could let him learn the pro game while still doing his thing.
     
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    It's becoming more and more clear that he has to be a Bruin next year (provided his game doesn't go into the tank over the summer) He's too good for the OHL competition and can't go to the AHL. During this season he wasn't really learning anything as he wasn't being challenged. Bring him up and give him a good amount of games. Don't over do it though since you're going to need him for the playoffs. This is where signing a Mike Mottau would be big. Give Dougie a string of games and then let him watch a few (keep him from burning out before the season's over but also he can learn from above)
     
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    For what it's worth, on Tim And Sid this morning (The Fan 590), they were raving about his game both last night and overall.  Conversation was that he could step into the Bruins power play tomorrow and not look out of place.  Not sure if that was a condemnation of the Bruins PP or an endorsement of Hamilton! 
     
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    For what it's worth, on Tim And Sid this morning (The Fan 590), they were raving about his game both last night and overall.  Conversation was that he could step into the Bruins power play tomorrow and not look out of place.  Not sure if that was a condemnation of the Bruins PP or an endorsement of Hamilton! 
    Posted by scooter244

    Likely a little of both, but i don't see as having Hamilton at one of the points on the pp as a bad thing.He can't be any worse than what the B's have now.
     
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    It's becoming more and more clear that he has to be a Bruin next year (provided his game doesn't go into the tank over the summer) He's too good for the OHL competition and can't go to the AHL. During this season he wasn't really learning anything as he wasn't being challenged. Bring him up and give him a good amount of games. Don't over do it though since you're going to need him for the playoffs. This is where signing a Mike Mottau would be big. Give Dougie a string of games and then let him watch a few (keep him from burning out before the season's over but also he can learn from above)
    Posted by nix02061


    In other words he is the same player that started the season in the OHL in September ? Interesting.

     
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    I did watch the whole game.

    Hamilton despite his goal and two assists ( secondary assists ) was not as dominant as some people might think he was. His play the first half of this game was mistake prone. His defensive zone coverage was sloppy as he was running around. 

    London Knight's first goal ( by Max Domi ) was set up by Hamilton going out of his way at center ice to take a run at Jared Knight setting up a two-on-one giving Domi a clear path to the net. The boxscore doesn't show it but Knight assisted.

    The rest of the game ( from the 3rd period on ) he was much better. His OT goal was a softie.

    Jared Knight's play has disappointed me since January. He is not the same player that would crash the net more then once a game. He has been playing a perimeter game. Last night more of the same and at times I didn't hear his name called for long stretches of the game.

    Just wondering if he's still hurt.
     
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    . Jared Knight's play has disappointed me since January. He is not the same player that would crash the net more then once a game. He has been playing a perimeter game. Last night more of the same and at times I didn't hear his name called for long stretches of the game. Just wondering if he's still hurt. Posted by Chowdahkid-


    Just going to ask you that after I watched a few Knight games online.
     
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    Strange to say it...but I hope so.  Provided it's an injury that's easier to recover from than a loss of nerve.

    Your post is exactly what I'm thinking about when people say he's a lock.  He has a lot to learn, and the conditions of success are going to be very different - not quite to the point where he'll need to reinvent his game, but he will need to learn judgment.
     
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    Strange to say it...but I hope so.  Provided it's an injury that's easier to recover from than a loss of nerve. Your post is exactly what I'm thinking about when people say he's a lock.  He has a lot to learn, and the conditions of success are going to be very different - not quite to the point where he'll need to reinvent his game, but he will need to learn judgment.
    Posted by Bookboy007


    You hit the nail on the head. Sometimes he does . Sometimes he doesn't. When he doesn't it leads to scoring chances far too often.
     
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    As noted so many times, that's primarily what the AHL is set to teach. Since he's in that middle ground, pairing him with Ference is probably the best alternative, and why Claude could do one or an alternate plan. 1] add an experienced D man as 7th defenseman, and have him alternate. 2] use krug, older, hopefully wiser, as an alternate. This also allows a close assessment of Krug, who did not look out of place in his few games. Not sure Claude would be comfortable with #2.
     
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    Regarding Hamilton's decision-making, we should take into consideration that he's a particularly bright guy and Claude's system is actually very straight forward. I bet he'll learn quickly and tidy up that part of his game.
     
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    As noted so many times, that's primarily what the AHL is set to teach. Since he's in that middle ground, pairing him with Ference is probably the best alternative, and why Claude could do one or an alternate plan. 1] add an experienced D man as 7th defenseman, and have him alternate. 2] use krug, older, hopefully wiser, as an alternate. This also allows a close assessment of Krug, who did not look out of place in his few games. Not sure Claude would be comfortable with #2.
    Posted by bogie6


    A second pairing with Seidenberg may help Hamilton with the transition. Chara and Boychuk have played with each other quite a bit so using them as the top 2 is do-able. i like Ference and McQuaid as the bottom 2.
     
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    I did watch the whole game. Hamilton despite his goal and two assists ( secondary assists ) was not as dominant as some people might think he was. His play the first half of this game was mistake prone. His defensive zone coverage was sloppy as he was running around.  London Knight's first goal ( by Max Domi ) was set up by Hamilton going out of his way at center ice to take a run at Jared Knight setting up a two-on-one giving Domi a clear path to the net. The boxscore doesn't show it but Knight assisted. The rest of the game ( from the 3rd period on ) he was much better. His OT goal was a softie. Jared Knight's play has disappointed me since January. He is not the same player that would crash the net more then once a game. He has been playing a perimeter game. Last night more of the same and at times I didn't hear his name called for long stretches of the game. Just wondering if he's still hurt.
    Posted by Chowdahkid-


    Question for you Chowda... if this beyond what you would expect for a junior aged player?  Is his decision making significantly inferior to his peer's?  What little junior hockey I see, I notice a lot of that.   I've seen Duncan Siemens (Colorado's 1st in 2011, 11th overall) play a few times live and he does this all the time.  Out of postion trying to make a big hit.  At times he's a very sound positional defensman and then he just makes you shake your head.  And, Siemans doesn't have nearly the offensive game that Hamilton has.  I chalked it up to immaturity. 
     
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    I did watch the whole game. Hamilton despite his goal and two assists ( secondary assists ) was not as dominant as some people might think he was. His play the first half of this game was mistake prone. His defensive zone coverage was sloppy as he was running around.  London Knight's first goal ( by Max Domi ) was set up by Hamilton going out of his way at center ice to take a run at Jared Knight setting up a two-on-one giving Domi a clear path to the net. The boxscore doesn't show it but Knight assisted. The rest of the game ( from the 3rd period on ) he was much better. His OT goal was a softie. 
    Posted by Chowdahkid-


       I have to agree with you.Hamilton just does not seem to posess any "hockey sense".
    He gets his points, but does not seem to have that, WOW factor.
    His shot, skating, and playmaking, are average at best, and defensively, he will have people wishing for the good ol' days, with Dennis Wideman.
    I admit to only seeing about a dozen of his games this year, but if he is on the Bruins next year, it will be as a power play specialist, with very little 5 on 5 time.
    This guy has a LOT to learn.
     
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    In Response to Re: Hamilton draws first blood:
    I did watch the whole game. Hamilton despite his goal and two assists ( secondary assists ) was not as dominant as some people might think he was. His play the first half of this game was mistake prone. His defensive zone coverage was sloppy as he was running around.  London Knight's first goal ( by Max Domi ) was set up by Hamilton going out of his way at center ice to take a run at Jared Knight setting up a two-on-one giving Domi a clear path to the net. The boxscore doesn't show it but Knight assisted. The rest of the game ( from the 3rd period on ) he was much better. His OT goal was a softie. Jared Knight's play has disappointed me since January. He is not the same player that would crash the net more then once a game. He has been playing a perimeter game. Last night more of the same and at times I didn't hear his name called for long stretches of the game. Just wondering if he's still hurt.
    Posted by Chowdahkid-


    This is probably the most insightful and useful post of the year...if not ever.

    Thanks for the info.  This is the sort of stuff we only get from people who know hockey and watch it.
     
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    In Response to Re: Hamilton draws first blood:
    In Response to Re: Hamilton draws first blood : This is probably the most insightful and useful post of the year...if not ever. Thanks for the info.  This is the sort of stuff we only get from people who know hockey and watch it.
    Posted by Not-A-Shot


    yup ,sometimes with all the stats being posted here you would think Hamilton is the combination of Karlsson and Chara . 
    Chowdah brings us back to reality and grateful for it.
     
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    Yup Chowda is a huge  help, but I am thinking is Hamilton the answer on the power play next year like Mike Green in Washington.  He cannot learn too much more in juniors, or can he Chowda?  Interested in your insight.
     
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    Yup Chowda is a huge  help, but I am thinking is Hamilton the answer on the power play next year like Mike Green in Washington.  He cannot learn too much more in juniors, or can he Chowda?  Interested in your insight.
    Posted by islamorada


    If he's anything like Mike Green, I hope he gets traded before ever putting his skates on the Garden ice.
     
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    You mean the Mike Green with the GWG Sat vs. the Rangers?

    And Dougie's team blew a 2-0 lead last night and lost 5-3. Series now tied at 1 game apiece.

     
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    Chowda, good info on Dougie. I, too, have heard about Hamilton's decision making, in his own end, not being the best.

    However, the kid has the size, skating abilty, speed and can handle and shoot the puck: that's 5 out of 6. His defensive zone work can be vastly improved just by practising and watching Chara and Seidenberg on a regular basis.

    The reason I think he'll be with the Bruins next year is that he will bring three years of cap friendly salary allowing the Bruins to sign whom they deem worthy of keeping, and thus keeping the team strong and competitive.

    Dougie Hamilton will learn big lessons next year and make a worthwhile contribution while he's at it.

    Wouldn't it be a gas if Dougie wins his first Stanley Cup in his first year, just like Tyler. And then Jared Knight does the same the following year, making it a Hat Trick for the Kessel deal.
     
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    In Response to Re: Hamilton draws first blood :    I have to agree with you.Hamilton just does not seem to posess any "hockey sense". He gets his points, but does not seem to have that, WOW factor. His shot, skating, and playmaking, are average at best, and defensively, he will have people wishing for the good ol' days, with Dennis Wideman. I admit to only seeing about a dozen of his games this year, but if he is on the Bruins next year, it will be as a power play specialist, with very little 5 on 5 time. This guy has a LOT to learn.
    Posted by biggskye


    First and foremost I'm not disagreeing with anyone Chowda said, I didn't even see the game.

    However, I disagree with this post in these respects; 
    his skating - is better than average, he was one of the best if not the best skaters at rookie camp.
    the comparison to Wideman - I didn't see any interceptions or turnovers from Hamilton that reminded me of Wideman.  And he made some really nice cross seam passes.  He has very good vision, that is not to be confused with hockey sense.

    If his shot, skating and playmaking are only average in juniors, why does this put him on the PP in the NHL?  And further, why was he a 9th overall pick?  After all, if his shot, skating and playmaking were only average, what was the other skill that lifted him above average?

    From Chowda's report it sounded to me like Hamilton's game impact was exaggerated and that he has decision making issues.  I can see that, I think the decision making sounds like maturity issues and something he can acquire with seasoning.  I didn't see anything in Chowda's report that questioned his basic abilities.

     
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    I don't think Bigsky has actually seen Hamilton play. Doug's shot, skating and passing are exceptional. It's his upstairs game that I question. I found, defensively, his decision making to be quite poor. I'm hoping and expecting it will improve with time and experience.

    In Response to Re: Hamilton draws first blood:
    In Response to Re: Hamilton draws first blood : First and foremost I'm not disagreeing with anyone Chowda said, I didn't even see the game. However, I disagree with this post in these respects;  his skating - is better than average, he was one of the best if not the best skaters at rookie camp. the comparison to Wideman - I didn't see any interceptions or turnovers from Hamilton that reminded me of Wideman.  And he made some really nice cross seam passes.  He has very good vision, that is not to be confused with hockey sense. If his shot, skating and playmaking are only average in juniors, why does this put him on the PP in the NHL?  And further, why was he a 9th overall pick?  After all, if his shot, skating and playmaking were only average, what was the other skill that lifted him above average? From Chowda's report it sounded to me like Hamilton's game impact was exaggerated and that he has decision making issues.  I can see that, I think the decision making sounds like maturity issues and something he can acquire with seasoning.  I didn't see anything in Chowda's report that questioned his basic abilities.
    Posted by BadHabitude

     
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