Re: How is there no Kessel vs. John Scott thread yet?!
posted at 9/23/2013 5:30 PM EDT
In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:
Let me be more specific, as the Police Power boys are seeking the loopholes.
During a regular or post season game, can someone give me an example of a player being injured because another team's player was "taking liberties" due to the fact that there we no goons on the opposition roster?
Not looking for preseason stupidity. There's plenty of that.
Not looking for "amazingly coincidental circumstances that support the point".
I'm looking for Team A doesn't have a goon. Team B's players are "taking liberties" with Team A's star because they're not worried about payback and Team A's star gets injured.
I'm generally in agreement on the very limited usefullness of the goon. There's no real need for it...unless someone else has it. That has been the only real value of Thornton, where he can at least be sacrificed to take the dance with Orr or Shelly instead of a skilled player.
You don't like to have to turn the other cheek all the time when you have a tough team that sticks up for each other. If a Jody Shelly type is harassing Lucic or Chara, it is nice to have someone you can send out there to take the dance and serve the 5 minutes. It doesn't help the team psyche, or the mentality of Lucic/Chara, to be turning down fights all the time. If Thornton knows his role, he demands that all goons come to him and nobody else. Beyond that, goons are becoming more and more useless. Especially the ones who don't play hockey well.
Team toughness, on the other hand, is a big deal. Aside from the meek reaction to the Matt Cooke hit, the Bruins have been good at this. I think there are plenty of examples of players taking liberties against teams that don't really stick up for eachother. Until last year, the Avalanche were Exhibit A. Nobody to fear on that roster and no sense of justice within the guys they had. Teams took runs at Duchene, Stastny, and Landeskog all day long, with no real response. That really doesn't happen to the Bruins. Goon or no goon, you had a pretty good idea that if you took a run at Seguin, somebody was coming for you. It might be Chara, or Lucic, or Ference, or whoever. It makes a difference.
I always think of a play like this -- no goon involved. But was it worth it to tee one up after the whistle?
Team toughness = regular hockey players being tough when needed. No goons involved.